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rtmike 11-23-2011 06:42 PM

No Tom Scholz (Boston), played the 12 string as good as anybody on 6.? He played every instrument before their 1st LP.

Also I remember years ago when Ace Frehley was touted as one of the best to ever play & he's not even @ the bottom. I know he influenced Dimebag & several others.

Wow. just. wow. This list is ****ed up.

FAX 11-23-2011 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8137047)
When I was teaching guitar in the mid 90's I had a couple of 10 year old students who could easily smoke Kurt Cobain. Why aren't they on this list.:shrug:

ROFL

I know.

Nashville is crawling with dudes who could smoke most of these guys.

FAX

PRIEST 11-23-2011 06:56 PM

Nzoner Joe Bonamassa


Wow never heard him , good stuff thanx

Nzoner 11-23-2011 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRIEST (Post 8137172)
Nzoner Joe Bonamassa


Wow never heard him , good stuff thanx

:thumb:

A friend introduced me to his music about 6 years ago.He's incredible,in fact he recently released a 2 disc DVD set live from Royal Albert Hall.Here's a couple from that set.

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And jamming with Clapton

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stevieray 11-23-2011 07:38 PM

I hate these, because they are subjective, but L. Buckingham is betthan half of those above him.

finger picking is pure talent.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 11-23-2011 08:13 PM

I'm not even a country fan (although I was certainly exposed to it when I was younger), but Roy Clark could out play a vast majority of those listed (and then play fiddle, banjo, mandolin and steel guitar over their corpses).

KCwolf 11-23-2011 08:17 PM

Whatever......Marc Ford not on this list is a travesty. Period.

Huffman83 11-23-2011 08:17 PM

I think this is a great list of songwriters. Leave the top 100 guitarist list to magazines like Guitar World. I'm not even a fan but there's no way Satch/Malmsteen/Vai is less of a guitar player than Johnny Ramone. And I LOVE the Ramones.

Tombstone RJ 11-23-2011 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 8135981)
Richards is too high.

As for personal favorites, Steve Howe has always made these lists. Why no more? His playing has declined, but so has Hendrix's. Should be on body of work. Howe in his heyday was outstanding.

I also wish Steve Hackett were on the list (as he sometimes is). He was tapping long before Eddie Van Halen popularized it.

No Alvin Lee or Robin Trower?

No Alvin Lee, hell, no Albert Lee for that matter.

Rolling Stone again proves why it sucks. Rolling Stone is a joke and always has been.

Tombstone RJ 11-23-2011 08:38 PM

No Frank Black

Tombstone RJ 11-23-2011 08:41 PM

No Steve Howe

Bugeater 11-23-2011 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8136985)
All lists are bullshit if you don't preface them with any criteria.
Also, any guitar player who has a modicum of technical proficiency will be greatly offended by many of the names on this list.

I'm guessing the criteria with this one was guitarists that make music that people other than guitar purist freaks want to listen to.

Tombstone RJ 11-23-2011 08:43 PM

No Joe Satriani

Tombstone RJ 11-23-2011 08:44 PM

No Ronnie Montrose

Tombstone RJ 11-23-2011 08:44 PM

No Sammy Haggar

Halfcan 11-23-2011 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 8137457)
No Alvin Lee, hell, no Albert Lee for that matter.

Rolling Stone again proves why it sucks. Rolling Stone is a joke and always has been.

:thumb: Does anyone even buy that crappy left wing mag anymore??

I am surprised they didn't put Donna Summer and Boy George as the top 2 best guitarist.

siberian khatru 11-23-2011 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan (Post 8137399)
I'm not even a country fan (although I was certainly exposed to it when I was younger), but Roy Clark could out play a vast majority of those listed (and then play fiddle, banjo, mandolin and steel guitar over their corpses).

Yes. And Glen Campbell, too.

headsnap 11-23-2011 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 8137476)
No Ronnie Montrose

This!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 8137477)
No Sammy Haggar

not that... :spock:

Tombstone RJ 11-23-2011 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headsnap (Post 8137495)
This!




not that... :spock:

Haggar did some good things before he joined Van Halen...

Nzoner 11-23-2011 09:02 PM

I will give props on Billy Gibbons making the list though,although I'd have put him in the top 20 :D

TheGuardian 11-23-2011 09:07 PM

Many times, too much is made of the popularity of the band in regards to how good someone is. Kurt Cobain isn't worth two ****ing shits playing the guitar. Yet he makes the list because Nirvana was so big in the 90's.

I'm sure that John Bohnam would end up a top 10 listed drummer but the truth is he wasn't very good. A very sloppy ****ing drummer. But I'm sure a Stones top 100 drummers would include him and of course Tommy Lee would be rated very high because he played in Motley Crue and he apparently has a big dong.

Tombstone RJ 11-23-2011 09:09 PM

Props for Thurston Moore on the list... he should be way higher than Jack White.

plbrdude 11-23-2011 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redhed (Post 8136016)
Too many names above Les Paul.

and not enough above keith richards

headsnap 11-23-2011 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 8137512)
Haggar did some good things before he joined Van Halen...

I'm definitely a fan but I would call Hagar a fun guitarist, I wouldn't classify him as a great guitarist.

Tombstone RJ 11-23-2011 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headsnap (Post 8137562)
I'm definitely a fan but I would call Hagar a fun guitarist, I wouldn't classify him as a great guitarist.

well this list is as much about substance and style as raw ability and Hagar has wrote some great stuff and he can sling an ax with the best of them when it comes to being loud and proud...

Tombstone RJ 11-23-2011 09:16 PM

oh yah, where the hell is the Motor City Madman!? No Ted Nugent? Really?

headsnap 11-23-2011 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 8137582)
oh yah, where the hell is the Motor City Madman!? No Ted Nugent? Really?

I was thinking of the Nuge when I typed the Hagar post... I would definitely put him ahead or Sammy and I am even drinking tequila right now!

Brock 11-23-2011 09:20 PM

I can't believe anybody would even bother discussing a list of guitarists that has Joni Mitchell AND Willie Nelson listed ahead of Mike Campbell, James Hetfield, Andy Summers, Dimbag and Lindsey Buckingham.

Come on, they're trolling you hard.

headsnap 11-23-2011 09:22 PM

Johnny Ramone ahead or Randy Rhodes... ROFL

Tombstone RJ 11-23-2011 09:30 PM

OK, here's one that is just unforgivable--no Bob Seger.

No Bob Seger

They put a lot of other questionable guitar players on this list but no Bob Seger. Why?

Fishpicker 11-23-2011 09:36 PM

100.Lindsey Buckingham -what up wit dat?

where the hell is Jake E Lee?

headsnap 11-23-2011 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishpicker (Post 8137655)

where the hell is Jake E Lee?

too obscure to make it on Celebrity Rehab...

OzarksChiefsFan 11-23-2011 09:54 PM

This list must be Rock Guitarists because there are a whole lot of Jazz players that

could shred these guys.

I love Hendrix and Clapton both moved Rock music into the future but if we are talking

Guitarists then how do you leave off Segovia,Malmsteem, Pass, Montgomery or a

thousand other shredders from a lot of genres. This is clearly a Rock list and should be

labeled accordingly. You might be amazed at how many of the hit Rock albums since the

early 70s featured guys like Glen Campbell and John Scofield. Tommy Tedesco did a lot

of sessions with the "Wrecking Crew" and Larry Carlton's work with Steely Dan or Steve

Morse's countless Rock album contributions. As a guitarist myself this list is full of great players but there are a

lot of guys who did as much if not more than the guys on this list, but who are not well

known by the general public. Springsteen, really give me a F*****g break. A lot of these guys can barely freaking play. JMHO

Backwards Masking 11-23-2011 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonewolf Ed (Post 8136598)
But, Lennon had those blistering solos and the way he'd bend the strings and... oh, wait, I am thinking of Zakk Wylde... :p

Kurt Cobain at #73 I feel the same way about. he could write songs, but his guitar solos were as minimalistic as minimalistic can be. there are literally thousands and thousands of better guitar players better than him. He's there because of name status mainly.

Backwards Masking 11-23-2011 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 8137548)
of course Tommy Lee would be rated very high because he played in Motley Crue and he apparently has a big dong.

don't forget he fucked Pamela Lee on video before the internet was big and has whored himself and his mysic out for money enough times to be listed along side Steven Tyler and Jagger.

So really he should be ahead of Peart if you think about it.

Backwards Masking 11-23-2011 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 8137009)
This list is a joke/ kirt hammett

I agree/ Dave Mustaine

Gadzooks 11-23-2011 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8137470)
I'm guessing the criteria with this one was guitarists that make music that people other than guitar purist freaks want to listen to.

I don't think you need to be "purist freak" to recognize that Kurt Cobain was a shitty guitarist.
Somehow the music industry was able to convince the sheep of this world to buy his albums and flannel shirts for a decade.
On that note, of the top 4 grunge bands that came out of Seattle at that time Cobain was the shittiest guitarist of them all. (I’m talking about Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and Nirvana). I’ll wager that the drummer for AIC could play guitar better than Cobain.
Kurt Cobain had the same influence on guitar playing that Elvis Presley had (none), yet oddly enough Elvis isn’t on the list.

RJ 11-23-2011 10:37 PM

Mick Ronson is too low at #41. I'd certainly put him in top 20.

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Glad Curtis Mayfield is included. I didn't see Sly Stone?

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Nzoner 11-23-2011 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 8137786)
I don't think you need to be "purist freak" to recognize that Kurt Cobain was a shitty guitarist.

Nor to recognize the fact that a lot of the names listed by CP members have some damn good music that people other than "purist freaks" listen to.I've got 2 close friends who'd never heard Joe Bonamassa or Gary Moore and are far from "purist freaks" but once they had an open ear become fans real fast.

dilligaf 11-23-2011 11:14 PM

Van Halen, Angus Young and Rhodes are too low on the list and I think Brian Setzer should have made the list.

chasedude 11-23-2011 11:14 PM

Alex Skolnick - Testament isn't well known and therefore a great guitarist is left out.

He's not only a metal guitarist, he's been dabbling in the jazz gig lately. Way more talented than Kurt Cobain and many others on the list.

FAX 11-24-2011 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 8137548)
Many times, too much is made of the popularity of the band in regards to how good someone is. Kurt Cobain isn't worth two ****ing shits playing the guitar. Yet he makes the list because Nirvana was so big in the 90's.

I'm sure that John Bohnam would end up a top 10 listed drummer but the truth is he wasn't very good. A very sloppy ****ing drummer. But I'm sure a Stones top 100 drummers would include him and of course Tommy Lee would be rated very high because he played in Motley Crue and he apparently has a big dong.

ROFL

FAX

DeezNutz 11-24-2011 01:46 AM

I don't know shit, in the big scheme of things, but I do know that the last laugh smilie thingy should be taken with a bit more than a grain of salt.

EPodolak 11-24-2011 02:19 AM

This list is completely goofy - seems to be good for their business though. Wonder why the great Robert Johnson dropped from the top ten down to #71 since the last RS top 100 a few years ago.

Fact is there are ten guys in my hometown who play much better guitar than a lot of these names.

Red Dawg 11-24-2011 04:00 AM

What about the drummer from Rush? He played a mean guitar.

LOCOChief 11-24-2011 04:40 AM

No, not even close. Can't complain about Jimmy at #1 but page at #3.

someone was really high when they made this list.

LOCOChief 11-24-2011 04:45 AM

no Joe Bonamassa?
no Joe Satriani?
Those 2 alone aren't on the list and should make top 10
SRV at #12 ? There's a contender for #1 with Bonamassa

Pushead2 11-24-2011 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOCOChief (Post 8138350)
no Joe Bonamassa?
no Joe Satriani?
Those 2 alone aren't on the list and should make top 10
SRV at #12 ? There's a contender for #1 with Bonamassa

I agree here.....

That's why I rather trust Guitar World's list than this shit. SRV should be in the top 5.

Mile High Mania 11-24-2011 06:47 AM

Leslie West is kinda high on the list... and why is CC Deville not on the list?

Cobain shouldn't even be on the list... and they have him higher than Joe Perry. Rolling Stone = Dog Urine

InChiefsHeaven 11-24-2011 07:01 AM

There were a lot of "flash in the pan" guys in the 80's who were more impressive, like Nuno Bettencourt from Extreme. Way better than a lot on this list.

InChiefsHeaven 11-24-2011 07:08 AM

First in with Nebraska native Michael Lee Firkins. Back in the 80's I got to meet him a few times when we used to hang out at the real Russo's Music in Papillion. Nice guy and one helluva guitar player.

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Braincase 11-24-2011 07:10 AM

The absence of the 4 most influential guitar instrumentalists of our time renders this list null and void. Vai, Satriani, Eric Johnson and Buckethead should not only be on this list, but all would be in my top 20.

Tribal Warfare 11-24-2011 07:11 AM

Robert Johnson not in the top 10? That's a big strike against to the validity of this list

memyselfI 11-24-2011 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 8136926)
Can't wait for the All time Best drummers list that leaves off Neil Peart.

Rush just shoved there noses in it with Live in Cleveland-so this was R S response to it-pure and simple.

My 16 year old drummer son's head would explode if that happens. Bonham, Peart, and Alan White are his favorites. Two of whom could easily be left off a list like this.

phisherman 11-24-2011 07:17 AM

These lists are always funny.

Everyone has their own opinion and gets all butt hurt about their heroes being ranked below hacks like Kurt Cobain.

I can't believe a guy like Steve Vai or Joe Satriani isn't on the list, yet The Edge is. Blech. To each his own, I guess.

headsnap 11-24-2011 07:28 AM

What no Gary Richrath!!!!


and in honor of today, I give you:

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FAX 11-24-2011 07:40 AM

How about that Slash dude?

Does anybody here really think he is a great guitarist? He does that one little "doo de doo de doo de" riff a lot, I guess.

FAX

burt 11-24-2011 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOCOChief (Post 8138350)
There's a contender for #1 with Bonamassa

Clapton would agree.

track 11-24-2011 08:19 AM

without Roy Buchanan the list is flawed.

burt 11-24-2011 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by track (Post 8138429)
without Roy Buchanan the list is flawed.

without Bonamassa the list is flawed.

track 11-24-2011 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burt (Post 8138432)
without Bonamassa the list is flawed.

yes

Nzoner 11-24-2011 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 8137126)
:doh!:

No Joe Bonamassa?

What a bunch of focking idiots,I dare anyone to watch the following and make an argument why he isn't on the list.

Acoustic

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/AaBruqqH1Wo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


Electric

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PRIEST (Post 8137172)
Nzoner Joe Bonamassa


Wow never heard him , good stuff thanx

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOCOChief (Post 8138350)
no Joe Bonamassa?
no Joe Satriani?
Those 2 alone aren't on the list and should make top 10
SRV at #12 ? There's a contender for #1 with Bonamassa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushead2 (Post 8138353)
I agree here.....

That's why I rather trust Guitar World's list than this shit. SRV should be in the top 5.

Quote:

Originally Posted by burt (Post 8138432)
without Bonamassa the list is flawed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by track (Post 8138436)
yes


:thumb:

burt 11-24-2011 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 8138447)
:thumb:

you left out,

Quote:

Originally Posted by burt (Post 8138428)
Clapton would agree.


Nzoner 11-24-2011 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burt (Post 8138476)
you left out,

Damn,I did but luckily last night I posted the clip of Clapton and Bonamassa jamming together and I love seeing the look on Eric's face during the jam where he seems to thinking,"holy shit this kid can play."

threebag 11-24-2011 08:50 AM

Willie Nelson should be higher than 77, way higher than 77.

burt 11-24-2011 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 8138479)
Willie Nelson should be higher than 77, way higher than 77.

loved his rift in "pancho and Lefty"

L.A. Chieffan 11-24-2011 09:12 AM

winger shouldve been in the top 5. this list is a hack job

burt 11-24-2011 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8138514)
winger shouldve been in the top 5. this list is a hack job

been proven.

Start Croyle 11-24-2011 09:30 AM

Didn't they publish a list just like this four or five years ago! They are just running out of meaningful articles to write so they do 500 best albums, 100 greatest guitarists, 250 best songs, 10 best album covers, blah blah blah!

It is really dumb and meaningless!

rocknrolla 11-24-2011 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 8137009)
/ kirt hammett

This list is turrible.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-24-2011 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8138514)
winger shouldve been in the top 5. this list is a hack job

Stewart certainly agrees.

WhiteWhale 11-24-2011 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 8137052)
I've always maintained that Nirvana is perhaps the most overrated band in history.

If you mean over-rated on technical skill, you'd be wrong. Because I don't know anyone who ranks them highly as a skilled band.

If you mean their influence is over-rated, you're also wrong. Because they completely changed popular music in the 90's. They basically took the exact same sound the Melvins had and added pop hooks to it. It was incredibly popular and changed music forever.

Nobody in the past 3 decades has influenced rock music more heavily than Nirvana.

WhiteWhale 11-24-2011 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8138404)
How about that Slash dude?

Does anybody here really think he is a great guitarist? He does that one little "doo de doo de doo de" riff a lot, I guess.

FAX

Yes. Anyone who plays guitar thinks he is.

Welcome to the jungle has 4 keys and 8 key changes. It's a helluva brilliant song. Bands were not doing what Slash was in the late 80's. He was one of the first rock guitarists in that era that wasn't just an Eddie Van Halen wannabe.

WhiteWhale 11-24-2011 10:31 AM

Also, Brent Hinds would shred half of this list into pieces, but Mastodon hasn't sold enough albums to make this list.

Start Croyle 11-24-2011 10:45 AM

Honestly even most of the people who omitted from the list that we are arguing about in this thread are not that great!

There are many better players than them, even!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f45ho3Ah2xw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MVtaEv9Q20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om6HDUKBbzE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrB7pmhnm54

Backwards Masking 11-24-2011 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8138404)
How about that Slash dude?

Does anybody here really think he is a great guitarist? He does that one little "doo de doo de doo de" riff a lot, I guess.

FAX

I always thought his work on Use Your Illusions I & II was impressive.

rocknrolla 11-24-2011 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 8137744)
Kurt Cobain at #73 I feel the same way about. he could write songs, but his guitar solos were as minimalistic as minimalistic can be. there are literally thousands and thousands of better guitar players better than him. He's there because of name status mainly.

To add to that. Pat Smear played most of the guitar for Nirvana.

KCTitus 11-24-2011 11:31 AM

No Satriani or Vai? Pfftt...and Bruce Springsteen is on the list? Does he even play guitar?

Mick Mars should also be on this list...

siberian khatru 11-24-2011 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 8138685)
If you mean over-rated on technical skill, you'd be wrong. Because I don't know anyone who ranks them highly as a skilled band.

If you mean their influence is over-rated, you're also wrong. Because they completely changed popular music in the 90's. They basically took the exact same sound the Melvins had and added pop hooks to it. It was incredibly popular and changed music forever.

Nobody in the past 3 decades has influenced rock music more heavily than Nirvana.

1) Except for the fact Cobain shows up on a list of greatest guitarists of all time. :p

2) Don't deny they were influential or a good band. But your last two statements are exactly the kind of hyperbole I'm talking about. :evil:

rocknrolla 11-24-2011 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 8138786)
No Satriani or Vai? Pfftt...and Bruce Springsteen is on the list? Does he even play guitar?

Mick Mars should also be on this list...

Mick Mars. Yes.


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