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ArrowheadHawk 12-03-2011 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8163660)
KSU very well be in the Fiesta if they win.

Yet another Kansas team in a BCS bowl while Mizzou has none.

kstater 12-03-2011 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8163660)
KSU very well be in the Fiesta if they win.

Will have to trade their pick with Sugar Bowl. Fiesta is the auto-bid. But, if OU wins, that might actually happen.

Saul Good 12-03-2011 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 8163662)
Yet another Kansas team in a BCS bowl while Mizzou has none.

Mizzou's been to the Orange Bowl 3 times.

Raiderhater 12-03-2011 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8163660)
KSU very well be in the Fiesta if they win.


I would be all for that (and actually prefer it), but I really think that bowl goes to the winner of the Bedlam game tonight.

KSU's playing for a shot at the Sugar.

kstater 12-03-2011 02:33 PM

Just because it's a cool stat to keep throwing out there, KSU 148-5 when leading at half in the last 21 years.

Raiderhater 12-03-2011 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 8163664)
Will have to trade their pick with Sugar Bowl. Fiesta is the auto-bid. But, if OU wins, that might actually happen.

You actually think Okie State gets left out in the cold? In a 3 way tie I see the Cats going to the Cotton Bowl with both Ok teams BCSing.

Saul Good 12-03-2011 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 8163669)
Just because it's a cool stat to keep throwing out there, KSU 148-5 when leading at half in the last 21 years.

That's a hell of a stat.

SPchief 12-03-2011 02:34 PM

Well, atleast KU made in in alot of the highlights in that package.

Saul Good 12-03-2011 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 8163670)
You actually think Okie State gets left out in the cold? In a 3 way tie I see the Cats going to the Cotton Bowl with both Ok teams BCSing.

If Diet OK gets left out, it won't be to KSU.

notorious 12-03-2011 02:35 PM

Michigan will get a spot over KSU if Mich gets into the top 14.

kstater 12-03-2011 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 8163670)
You actually think Okie State gets left out in the cold? In a 3 way tie I see the Cats going to the Cotton Bowl with both Ok teams BCSing.

Hard to tell. I don't think Pickens will let it happen, but OSU losing last 2 can't help them.

kstater 12-03-2011 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8163675)
Michigan will get a spot over KSU if Mich gets into the top 14.

Irrelevant with Houston losing.

Raiderhater 12-03-2011 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8163674)
If Diet OK gets left out, it won't be to KSU.


That's what I'm thinking.

Go Pokes, beat OU.

notorious 12-03-2011 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 8163679)
Irrelevant with Houston losing.

?

SPchief 12-03-2011 02:36 PM

I'm actually torn on what I want to happen tonight. One one hand, it would be fun watching the Kstate fans triumph their share of the Big12 title. On the other hand. I would like to see OK State go out and win like 60-10 to see if that breaks up the BCS any.

007 12-03-2011 02:37 PM

At least we don't need to hear about Houston anymore.

kstater 12-03-2011 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8163681)
?

With Houston going down, Big 12 will be getting 2 BCS slots. Michigan jumping KSU was a big deal because Houston was eating up a spot.

DaKCMan AP 12-03-2011 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 8163682)
On the other hand. I would like to see OK State go out and win like 60-10 to see if that breaks up the BCS any.

It wouldn't.

DaKCMan AP 12-03-2011 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 8163685)
With Houston going down, Big 12 will be getting 2 BCS slots.

Yep. Although if next year's rule were in effect the SEC would be getting 3.

Raiderhater 12-03-2011 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 8163676)
Hard to tell. I don't think Pickens will let it happen, but OSU losing last 2 can't help them.

Weeden/Blackmon vs. Snyder/Klein

Plus both of KSU's losses came to the 2 OK teams. I just don't see it. But then I have been wrong before.

notorious 12-03-2011 02:39 PM

The worst thing for KSU is a close Bedlam game.


It needs to be a prison raping one way or the other for KSU to get a BCS. If OU does the raping it will put KSU in a title-sharing position and a OK shot at the BCS.

If OSU rapes, they will get the title outright and OU will be knocked out of the top 14 thus giving KSU a pretty good shot at a BCS game.

kstater 12-03-2011 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8163689)
Yep. Although if next year's rule were in effect the SEC would be getting 3.

If next years rules in effect, Big 12(by far the second best conference) wouldn't be worrying about a second bid because shitty Big East teams wouldn't be eating spots.

Saul Good 12-03-2011 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8163686)
It wouldn't.

I wouldn't be so sure. Pollsters have shown in the past that they don't like rematches. Remember when Florida leapfrogged Michigan the last week of the season Leak's senior year? No chance that happens if the voters weren't trying to prevent a rematch.

notorious 12-03-2011 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8163689)
Yep. Although if next year's rule were in effect the SEC would be getting 3.

Still can.


Georgia wins and LSU/Bama are 1/2 they will get 3 in.

Saul Good 12-03-2011 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8163689)
Yep. Although if next year's rule were in effect the SEC would be getting 3.

Still could happen. If Georgia wins, it's probably LSU/Bama in the title and Georgia with the auto bid. That would pretty much guarantee that KSU doesn't get a BCS game.

kstater 12-03-2011 02:42 PM

Hard to tell where the BCS would shake out with a LSU loss. That's 60 1st place votes to get tossed around between 3 teams.

SPchief 12-03-2011 02:42 PM

On the flip side, lets go Georgia

Saul Good 12-03-2011 02:44 PM

I know this isn't the basketball thread, but Arkansas was up 8-1 against UCONN the last time I looked. Suddenly, it was 22-12 UCONN. Good old Mike Anderson.

Reerun_KC 12-03-2011 02:44 PM

what a houston meltdown.

Raiderhater 12-03-2011 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8163691)
The worst thing for KSU is a close Bedlam game.


It needs to be a prison raping one way or the other for KSU to get a BCS. If OU does the raping it will put KSU in a title-sharing position and a OK shot at the BCS.

If OSU rapes, they will get the title outright and OU will be knocked out of the top 14 thus giving KSU a pretty good shot at a BCS game.

How much OU loses by shouldn't matter, with one more loss than the Cats putting them in a solid third place and K-State an uncontested second.... well if OU gets a pick over us, I'll pitch a fit like no other.

DaKCMan AP 12-03-2011 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8163696)
I wouldn't be so sure. Pollsters have shown in the past that they don't like rematches. Remember when Florida leapfrogged Michigan the last week of the season Leak's senior year? No chance that happens if the voters weren't trying to prevent a rematch.

What helped Florida was the SEC Championship game while Michigan sat idle. Big XII has no such game.

DaKCMan AP 12-03-2011 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8163700)
Still could happen. If Georgia wins, it's probably LSU/Bama in the title and Georgia with the auto bid. That would pretty much guarantee that KSU doesn't get a BCS game.

Technically true, but Georgia has no chance. They've played a weak schedule and struggled with Tennessee, Florida, Kentucky, and Vanderbilt.

The third SEC team that deserves a BCS berth is Arkansas.

kstater 12-03-2011 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8163711)
What helped Florida was the SEC Championship game while Michigan sat idle. Big XII has no such game.

Pretty sure OSU is playing a top 10 team while Alabama sits idle.

notorious 12-03-2011 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 8163709)
How much OU loses by shouldn't matter, with one more loss than the Cats putting them in a solid third place and K-State an uncontested second.... well if OU gets a pick over us, I'll pitch a fit like no other.

In a close game OU will still be top 14 easily. We will get screwed like we always have.

DaKCMan AP 12-03-2011 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 8163714)
Pretty sure OSU is playing a top 10 team while Alabama sits idle.

It's not a championship game. Both teams will be 11-1 if OSU wins. In 2006, Florida was 12-1 while Michigan was 11-1.

RealSNR 12-03-2011 02:49 PM

I want to watch our QBOTF RGIII but this bullshit Houston game is still on the ****ing TV and I don't have ESPNnews.
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007 12-03-2011 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8163700)
Still could happen. If Georgia wins, it's probably LSU/Bama in the title and Georgia with the auto bid. That would pretty much guarantee that KSU doesn't get a BCS game.

We better not see LSU vs alabama again. If Georgia wins today then neither of those teams won their conference championship. I will always have an issue with that.

Saul Good 12-03-2011 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8163711)
What helped Florida was the SEC Championship game while Michigan sat idle. Big XII has no such game.

That had nothing with the title game. That was activism by the voters, plain and simple. To your point, Diet OK is playing a major opponent today while Bama sits idle. It's the same thing.

tk13 12-03-2011 02:50 PM

It's not like OSU has a poor history or no name value... but I do think if they were Texas or OU, they would have a better shot to pass Alabama today. There have definitely been enough instances where voters have changed their votes just to do something like that.

Saul Good 12-03-2011 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8163718)
It's not a championship game. Both teams will be 11-1 if OSU wins. In 2006, Florida was 12-1 while Michigan was 11-1.

So?

DaKCMan AP 12-03-2011 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8163723)
That had nothing with the title game. That was activism by the voters, plain and simple. To your point, Diet OK is playing a major opponent today while Bama sits idle. It's the same thing.

It's not the same thing. OSU-OU is not a championship game. Both Bama & OSU will be 11-1 if OSU wins. In 2006, Florida was 12-1 while Michigan was 11-1.

DaKCMan AP 12-03-2011 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8163726)
So?

So it's not the same scenario. Unless in your universe 11-1 and 11-1 and 11-1 and 12-1 are the same thing, then it's not equivalent.

Raiderhater 12-03-2011 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8163715)
In a close game OU will still be top 14 easily. We will get screwed like we always have.


How far OU falls also depends on the out come of the games with the other 2 loss teams playing today.

There is no guarantee one way or the other in all of this. Too many factors.

DaKCMan AP 12-03-2011 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 8163724)
It's not like OSU has a poor history or no name value... but I do think if they were Texas or OU, they would have a better shot to pass Alabama today. There have definitely been enough instances where voters have changed their votes just to do something like that.

They'd have a better shot if they didn't lose to a team that's barely above .500 (and may be at .500 after today).

kstater 12-03-2011 02:55 PM

That hit the ground, but from that angle, not enough to overturn.

Saul Good 12-03-2011 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8163731)
So it's not the same scenario. Unless in your universe 11-1 and 11-1 and 11-1 and 12-1 are the same thing, then it's not equivalent.

Florida jumping Michigan had nothing to do with 12 wins versus 11 and everything to do with the rematch. IIRC, Michigan was #3, and OSU was #1. The number 2 team lost, so Michigan would have been #2. If the #2 team hadn't lost, nobody would have moved Michigan behind Florida.

kstater 12-03-2011 02:56 PM

**** YEAh

Raiderhater 12-03-2011 02:57 PM

I'll take it.

kstater 12-03-2011 02:58 PM

KSU's Baylor win looking better each week. Up 14 early.

LiveSteam 12-03-2011 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8163734)
They'd have a better shot if they didn't lose to a team that's barely above .500 (and may be at .500 after today).

Bama lost at home. They should be out/ if it comes down to OSU or them.

ArrowheadHawk 12-03-2011 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 8163751)
KSU's Baylor win looking better each week. Up 14 early.

Meh, Kansas damn near beat Baylor.

Saul Good 12-03-2011 03:03 PM

I can't get over how bad Texas is at QB. It's unfathomable.

kstater 12-03-2011 03:04 PM

FG KSU

20-13 Cats

Raiderhater 12-03-2011 03:04 PM

FG good! 20-13 Cats

ArrowheadHawk 12-03-2011 03:05 PM

Case McCoy sucks

kstater 12-03-2011 03:08 PM

MESHAK

Bewbies 12-03-2011 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 8163754)
Bama lost at home. They should be out/ if it comes down to OSU or them.

I think you should have to win your conference to get in the game, but to lose in OT at home to the #1 team in the country compared to at Iowa State?

LMAO

Raiderhater 12-03-2011 03:10 PM

Not only holding, but Baldinger thinks it was solid play. WTF?

LiveSteam 12-03-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 8163777)
I think you should have to win your conference to get in the game, but to lose in OT at home to the #1 team in the country compared to at Iowa State?

LMAO

I just dont wanna have to watch that shit game again. So if Bama wins the rematch? WhoTF is #1. Bama? No way. They lost to LSU at home. LSU? No way.They just lost the NC game. Game 3?

SPchief 12-03-2011 03:14 PM

Good start for Georgias D

007 12-03-2011 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 8163781)
I just dont wanna have to watch that shit game again. So if Bama wins the rematch? WhoTF is #1. Bama? No way. They lost to LSU at home. LSU? No way.They just lost the NC game. Game 3?

Yet people still think the BCS is great.

kstater 12-03-2011 03:14 PM

TD ISU

20-20

Raiderhater 12-03-2011 03:15 PM

fuck

GoHuge 12-03-2011 03:16 PM

Hey Cats #32 Woody is getting the ****in ball!!!

LiveSteam 12-03-2011 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8163787)
Yet people still think the BCS is great.

****ing mind boggling aint it.
GO G-BULLDOGS!

SPchief 12-03-2011 03:17 PM

Georgia inside the 20

LiveSteam 12-03-2011 03:20 PM

Georgia

SPchief 12-03-2011 03:20 PM

3-0 Georgia

LiveSteam 12-03-2011 03:24 PM

That man from Omaha sure knows when to call a on side

SPchief 12-03-2011 03:24 PM

Georgia recovers onsides

Chiefs Pantalones 12-03-2011 03:24 PM

Hopefully Georgia wins, I picked them in my work pool.

007 12-03-2011 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 8163798)
****ing mind boggling aint it.
GO G-BULLDOGS!

I'll be pissed if Georgia wins the game and we still get stuck with LSU-Bama. Hell, I'll be pissed if either one of them make the game if G wins.

Bewbies 12-03-2011 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8163829)
I'll be pissed if Georgia wins the game and we still get stuck with LSU-Bama. Hell, I'll be pissed if either one of them make the game if G wins.

Chorus to end the BCS would grow, substantially.

Bewbies 12-03-2011 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 8163781)
I just dont wanna have to watch that shit game again. So if Bama wins the rematch? WhoTF is #1. Bama? No way. They lost to LSU at home. LSU? No way.They just lost the NC game. Game 3?

If you win the NC you are #1. LMAO

kstater 12-03-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 8163833)
If you win the NC you are #1. LMAO

EVERY GAME COUNTS(Except that one earlier in the year)

LiveSteam 12-03-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 8163833)
If you win the NC you are #1. LMAO

I guess

SPchief 12-03-2011 03:31 PM

Don't throw it all on the table in one drive now.

kstater 12-03-2011 03:31 PM

FG KSU

23-20 Cats

Reerun_KC 12-03-2011 03:31 PM

It will be cool when we have a NC game, but until then the best we can do is the BCS

kstater 12-03-2011 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8163844)
It will be cool when we have a NC game, but until then the best we can do is the BCS

Yup, the 2 best teams(where neither might be good enough to win their conference).


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