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DaWolf 12-14-2011 12:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8203072)
Which means it's gonna end up being Stanzi.

His finger isn't gonna magically get better in 2 days. If he can't go by Friday they'd be foolish to start him if their goal is to try and win the game.
Then there's this:

Quote:
Chiefs Orton taking snaps with first unit under center, spirals looking tight. No reason to expect him not to start Sunday

Twitter / Dave Skretta (Associated Press)
https://twitter.com/#!/APdaveskretta...20258690088960

RealSNR 12-14-2011 12:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 8203085)
Damn.

Frankie 12-14-2011 12:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8202941)
No worries, the Chiefs have no chance against the Packers no matter who starts.
I don't think that's the point. We want to see a regular-season Stanzi. That's the point.

htismaqe 12-14-2011 12:42 PM
Damn, Romeo is basically slamming Haley right now.

Not gonna change the playbook for one guy. Stanzi and Kyle are gonna compete, with the same playbook, no more guessing. Players can concentrate on getting ready for the game and stop wondering/asking questions.

O.city 12-14-2011 12:43 PM
Starting to sound like Haley was just throwing shit at the wall and hoping it stuck when it came to players and system stuff.

htismaqe 12-14-2011 12:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 8203085)
Clinkscale just said Orton is throwing tight spirals and thought he looked fine, except he didn't throw any deep passes and while the other guys were taking snaps, Kyle wasn't.

Said the big issue right now is potential for ball security issues because of taking snaps.

htismaqe 12-14-2011 12:44 PM
Clinkscale also says he has a strong feeling they don't want to use Stanzi, that they will go with Orton if they can.

O.city 12-14-2011 12:45 PM
I think it was pretty much set in stone that Stanzi wouldn't play a snap this year.

threebag 12-14-2011 12:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 8202849)
I know a lot of you guys want to start Stanzi and see what he's got. I don't know, I think this would be a really shitty way to throw Stanzi in to the active line up. Your team is in turmoil. Who knows though? Maybe Stanzi goes in and lights it up, gives the franchise something to look forward to, but will Pioli make a break away from Cassel?
Hopefully the franchise breaks away from both of them.

Pioli and Cassel

Rasputin 12-14-2011 12:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 8203071)
He said right before the new conference as a rumor, then confirmed afterwards.
I just listened to Crennel press. He said both Stanzi & Orton are splitting reps in practice. His determination is yet to be made providing the condition of Ortons finger. He pretty much said that Stanzi is a rookie & that Orton has the experience and has the preference for Orton in that regard. Stanzi has a chance to play this weekend only if Ortons finger is still an issue.

There is still a chance for Stanzi to start, a slim chance but there is a chance...

Tribal Warfare 12-14-2011 12:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 8203127)

There is still a chance for Stanzi to start, a slim chance but there is a chance...
http://media.fukung.net/images/20805...867be8f398.gif

SenselessChiefsFan 12-14-2011 12:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 8203042)
Who gives a crap about winning right now? The entire Chiefs locker room, that's who. This is a great move to try to win the remaining games to win a job, when the fans are whining about how we should evaluate a rookie QB to see if he has any potential for the future. Playing Stanzi, even if it means losing, not only gives us the chance to evaluate him and give him necessary experience, but also could fracture the locker room and the players confidence in the organization. This is an intelligent move, instead of thinking about the QB they may be able to draft five months from now.
FYP.

Frankie 12-14-2011 12:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8203063)
dcwhb Danny Clinkscale
Orton will start if he can go...Stanzi if not..Crennel says Orton probably couldn't play if game was today
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
Good news if true. At least it sounds like Stanzi is taking some snaps in practice.

Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8203101)
Starting to sound like Haley was just throwing shit at the wall and hoping it stuck when it came to players and system stuff.
Of course Haley does not have the microphone.

Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8203105)
Clinkscale also says he has a strong feeling they don't want to use Stanzi, that they will go with Orton if they can.
:banghead: WHY?! WHY?! WHY?! :banghead:

Okie_Apparition 12-14-2011 01:01 PM
I'd imagine Orton gives Crennel the best change of a win against Denver & Oakland
Stanzi's best hope is some form of mop up duty, good or most likely bad

the Talking Can 12-14-2011 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8202996)
I hope we draft a QB in the 1st round of the draft this year, no matter what. I don't care how many QB's go before our pick or whether they is any good ones left. Draft the best one and start him, whether he's any good or not, until he retires from the NFL. Ten years of Akili Smith starting for the Kansas City Chiefs.

It will be worth it just to shut all the dumb ****s up.
i wish this franchise wasn't a piece of shit, but with fans like you...I'm screwed

Frazod 12-14-2011 01:42 PM
Looking forward to seeing what Orton can do.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-14-2011 01:43 PM
Orton already got his cock shoved up his ass by the Packers once this season, now he gets it again...Rough.

Rasputin 12-14-2011 01:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 8203142)
LMAO


exactly

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-14-2011 01:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8203079)
And to the TE speak, when was the last time a TE destroyed this defense?
Not sure if serious.

Reerun_KC 12-14-2011 01:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8203079)
And to the TE speak, when was the last time a TE destroyed this defense?
LOL

Well buddy... Maybe you should watch the games...

BoneKrusher 12-14-2011 01:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8202840)
Meh. Crennel wants to win. He want's to be the HC and whether we like it or not, Orton give them the best chance to win...as unexciting as that may be.
Exactly.
this is Crennel's audition for a Head Coaching gig.
he has to play the QB that gives him the best chance.

i understand it.

O.city 12-14-2011 01:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8203348)
LOL

Well buddy... Maybe you should watch the games...
Gronkowski and the Bills TE are all I remember from this year?

BoneKrusher 12-14-2011 01:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8203334)
Looking forward to seeing what Orton can do.
yeah me too, it sure would be nice to see a couple 25-30 yard passes for a Change.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-14-2011 01:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8203363)
Gronkowski and the Bills TE are all I remember from this year?
There's a pretty glaring one from this *calendar* year you may be overlooking as well.

O.city 12-14-2011 01:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8203379)
There's a pretty glaring one from this *calendar* year you may be overlooking as well.
Oh I know. I was trolling. I've been practicing a little and I'm getting pretty good. I hooked a few this time.

Bowser 12-14-2011 01:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8203063)
dcwhb Danny Clinkscale
Orton will start if he can go...Stanzi if not..Crennel says Orton probably couldn't play if game was today
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
Stanzibaters everywhere are beating it up proper right now.....

trndobrd 12-14-2011 02:01 PM
I want to do whatever will give us the best look at Stanzi. In this case starting him against GB the week the HC got the boot is probably not the best answer. Let him prepare this week in the #2 spot and bring him in once everyone is in the flow of the game.....sort of like Haley should have done last week.

There is also the question of if we want to bring Orton back next season to compete against Stanzi and the new first round QB draft pick, or set him loose and get the compensatory draft pick.

Red Beans 12-14-2011 02:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by trndobrd (Post 8203409)
There is also the question of if we want to bring Orton back next season to compete against Stanzi and the new first round QB draft pick, or set him loose and get the compensatory draft pick.
A very good reason to evaluate both. I wish Haley would have trotted out someone other than Palko, it would have made that evaluation a little easier...

vailpass 12-14-2011 02:10 PM
Orton:" I'd love to play but this damned finger just won't heal.
Crennel: "How many weeks before you think you can play?"
Orton: "How many more weeks in the season"
Crennel: "3"
Orton: "4"

Rasputin 12-14-2011 02:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8203355)
Exactly.
this is Crennel's audition for a Head Coaching gig.
he has to play the QB that gives him the best chance.

i understand it.
I understand it. Don't like it. Don't think Orton gives a better chance to win than Stanzi does. Still using the excuse that Stanzi is a 5th round QB rookie. That is all.

Reerun_KC 12-14-2011 02:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8203386)
Oh I know. I was trolling. I've been practicing a little and I'm getting pretty good. I hooked a few this time.
It was openly mocked on National TV... That was enough...

BoneKrusher 12-14-2011 02:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 8203492)
I understand it. Don't like it. Don't think Orton gives a better chance to win than Stanzi does. Still using the excuse that Stanzi is a 5th round QB rookie. That is all.
i know man.

i wanted Stanzi to play after week two.

ClevelandBronco 12-14-2011 02:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8202840)
Meh. Crennel wants to win. He want's to be the HC and whether we like it or not, Orton give them the best chance to win...as unexciting as that may be.
Oh, yeah. That's what they called him in Denver. He's Mr. Best Chance to Win.

whoman69 12-14-2011 02:26 PM
I'll wait until Sunday to see if Palko is inactive.

I think its best this week to let Orton go and put Stanzi in there if he craps all over himself. Give Stanzi some reps and let him go in the divisional games.

Chiefnj2 12-14-2011 02:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 8203547)
Oh, yeah. That's what they called him in Denver. He's Mr. Best Chance to Win.
Orton threw for 3 touchdown passes against GB earlier this year.

You know what they call 3 touchdown passes in 1 game in KC ? A ****ing miracle.

Bowser 12-14-2011 02:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8203654)
Orton threw for 3 touchdown passes against GB earlier this year.

You know what they call 3 touchdown passes in 1 game in KC ? A ****ing miracle.
At first I was all LMAO

Then, I was all :banghead:

Bowser 12-14-2011 02:52 PM
WELCOME TO KANSAS CITY, JESSE.

Nightfyre 12-14-2011 02:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8203654)
Orton threw for 3 touchdown passes against GB earlier this year.

You know what they call 3 touchdown passes in 1 game in KC ? A ****ing miracle.
Every time we have scored more than 17 points, we have won. Think about that!

ChiefsCountry 12-14-2011 02:53 PM
So they give him Comets tickets. Nice.

Bowser 12-14-2011 02:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8203671)
Every time we have scored more than 17 points, we have won. Think about that!
Lightin' fires and kickin' tires!

Dayze 12-14-2011 02:54 PM
sorry to hear you moved here to watch a bad product Jesse. Here, have some Comets and Royals tickets.

Sofa King 12-14-2011 02:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8202996)
I hope we draft a QB in the 1st round of the draft this year, no matter what. I don't care how many QB's go before our pick or whether they is any good ones left. Draft the best one and start him, whether he's any good or not, until he retires from the NFL. Ten years of Akili Smith starting for the Kansas City Chiefs.

It will be worth it just to shut all the dumb ****s up.
LMAO

So you'd rather we are strapped to a piece of shit than try to draft one (meaning a top flight QB)?

Man you're an asshole.

splatbass 12-14-2011 08:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 8203127)
I just listened to Crennel press. He said both Stanzi & Orton are splitting reps in practice. His determination is yet to be made providing the condition of Ortons finger. He pretty much said that Stanzi is a rookie & that Orton has the experience and has the preference for Orton in that regard. Stanzi has a chance to play this weekend only if Ortons finger is still an issue.
That sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

Hammock Parties 12-14-2011 08:42 PM
This is gonna be awesome. Hopefully Baldwin can have a couple of big games before the season is over.

Messier 12-14-2011 08:55 PM
Palko should have never started one game. I'm a little angry about that.

GordonGekko 12-14-2011 09:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8204743)
Palko should have never started one game. I'm a little angry about that.
Definitely.

ClevelandBronco 12-14-2011 09:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8204743)
Palko should have never started one game. I'm a little angry about that.
Which one?

Messier 12-14-2011 09:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 8204789)
Which one?
Hmmm....I'll say the Steeler game.

aturnis 12-14-2011 09:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by trndobrd (Post 8203409)
I want to do whatever will give us the best look at Stanzi. In this case starting him against GB the week the HC got the boot is probably not the best answer. Let him prepare this week in the #2 spot and bring him in once everyone is in the flow of the game.....sort of like Haley should have done last week.

There is also the question of if we want to bring Orton back next season to compete against Stanzi and the new first round QB draft pick, or set him loose and get the compensatory draft pick.
Could set Orton loose, pick up Flynn from GB, draft a 1st rounder and keep Stanzi. Doubt that would work though unless we guaranteed Flynn the starter position, which some other team such as Jax, Wash, Mia, or Min would probably do. If the scouts really believed in Stanzi as much as they seemed to have and we draft a first rounder, doubt he'd want to come here. I guess free agency is before the draft though, so who knows. We could trick him. :evil:

bricks 12-14-2011 09:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8203680)
LMAO

So you'd rather we are strapped to a piece of shit than try to draft one (meaning a top flight QB)?

Man you're an asshole.
The man is not an asshole.

He just dont like whiny little bitches. Ain't nothing wrong with that:harumph:

htismaqe 12-14-2011 09:57 PM
Schefter just said he doesn't really say any way the Chiefs keep Kyle Orton beyond these next 3 games...

cabletech94 12-14-2011 10:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8204917)
Schefter just said he doesn't really say any way the Chiefs keep Kyle Orton beyond these next 3 games...
Pretty sure he's cannon fodder. Plus the extra draft pick and all. :D

DuhChiefs 12-14-2011 10:12 PM
StanziCityChiefs :)

Rasputin 12-14-2011 10:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8202996)
I hope we draft a QB in the 1st round of the draft this year, no matter what. I don't care how many QB's go before our pick or whether they is any good ones left. Draft the best one and start him, whether he's any good or not, until he retires from the NFL. Ten years of Akili Smith starting for the Kansas City Chiefs.

It will be worth it just to shut all the dumb ****s up.
Here is a thought, draft a HOF TE and see how many playoff games we win.

Frankie 12-14-2011 10:26 PM
I would love to hear Bowe's (and other WRs') opinion of Stanzi. They see him in practice and should have a good idea what he is made of.

O.city 12-14-2011 10:28 PM
I'm starting to think Stanzi might be the guy next year. If Pioli is so high on him, maybe he lets Cassel and Orton go brings in a vet backup and hands it to Stanzi.

boogblaster 12-14-2011 11:48 PM
who knows .. what is cassel's contract ....

Sofa King 12-15-2011 08:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bricks (Post 8204911)
The man is not an asshole.

He just dont like whiny little bitches. Ain't nothing wrong with that:harumph:
Did you have tears in your eyes when you typed that?

BoneKrusher 12-15-2011 08:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DuhChiefs (Post 8204946)
StanziCityChiefs :)
they may just shock the world on sunday.

we all know the Packers are gonna roll into Arrowhead thinking they have this game won based on the first 13 games of the season. (as they should)

if the offense can move the ball with the QB change and give the defense some help, i see the Chiefs turning this game into a dogfight.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-15-2011 10:15 AM
It'll be a dogfight alright. Like a Pit Bull against a Minature Poodle.

Frankie 12-15-2011 11:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8205365)
they may just shock the world on sunday.

we all know the Packers are gonna roll into Arrowhead thinking they have this game won based on the first 13 games of the season. (as they should)

if the offense can move the ball with the QB change and give the defense some help, i see the Chiefs turning this game into a dogfight.
A losing, Rocky 1 type dogfight with Stanzi at the helm would be the best of both worlds for this team at the moment. Hate to say it but it's true.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8205586)
It'll be a dogfight alright. Like a Pit Bull against a Minature Poodle.
LMAO

Did you say miniature or would any Poodle do?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_KlopRnA4JM.../s1600/087.JPG

BoneKrusher 12-15-2011 12:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8205586)
It'll be a dogfight alright. Like a Pit Bull against a Minature Poodle.
LMAO

the Chiefs have been stinking up the joint so much lately and with the Changes this week i was just trying to be positive.

Chiefs Pantalones 12-15-2011 01:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8204917)
Schefter just said he doesn't really say any way the Chiefs keep Kyle Orton beyond these next 3 games...
Then why not play Stanzi?

Frankie 12-15-2011 01:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 8206095)
Then why not play Stanzi?
Stanzi will probably not start against the Packs but play some. Maybe they just don't want to put him in the role of a starter right away. He might start one or both of the remaining games though. One can hope anyway.

htismaqe 12-15-2011 02:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 8206095)
Then why not play Stanzi?
Because Romeo Crennel wants to secure the HC job.

htismaqe 12-15-2011 04:05 PM
It appears that Orton could not have started if the game was yesterday but today he's good enough that he could.

So it looks like it will be Orton.

BoneKrusher 12-15-2011 04:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8206617)
It appears that Orton could not have started if the game was yesterday but today he's good enough that he could.

So it looks like it will be Orton.
either way i'm just glad we will see a QB besides 4 or 7.

htismaqe 12-15-2011 04:34 PM
He's going to be wearing a glove.

On the plus side, he said he's worn one for a few games in Denver.

On the negative side, he said he's thrown his "whole life" without one and it feels weird.

He's gonna turn the ball over 3 or 4 times, bank on it.

O.city 12-15-2011 04:35 PM
Well we are likely to see Stanzi then.

BoneKrusher 12-16-2011 09:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8206712)

He's gonna turn the ball over 3 or 4 times, bank on it.
Maybe but
the last game for Matt Cassel was vs the Broncos:

13 of 28 for 93 yards and a TD

Orton wont have to be very good to beat those stats.

htismaqe 12-16-2011 09:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8208192)
Maybe but
the last game for Matt Cassel was vs the Broncos:

13 of 28 for 93 yards and a TD

Orton wont have to be very good to beat those stats.
The goal is to give yourself the best chance to win.

Not playing a guy that has to wear a glove on his throwing hand would probably be a good place to start.

BoneKrusher 12-16-2011 09:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8208198)
The goal is to give yourself the best chance to win.

Not playing a guy that has to wear a glove on his throwing hand would probably be a good place to start.
i'd rather see Stanz but tbh Orton with a glove would be an improvement over the crap we've seen over the last three years.

Just Sayin'.

htismaqe 12-16-2011 09:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8208208)
i'd rather see Stanz but tbh Orton with a glove would be an improvement over the crap we've seen over the last three years.

Just Sayin'.
Better than "bad" does not equal "good".

BoneKrusher 12-16-2011 09:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8208225)
Better than "bad" does not equal "good".
very true but it's better than what we've had at QB.

Okie_Apparition 12-16-2011 12:29 PM
Stanzi must suck more cock than Skip Bayless at a Tebow rally
The news showed a clip of Orton making 3 throws under 15 yards. Two could be timed with a sundial. The other plopped in the dirt 5 yards short

vailpass 12-16-2011 12:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition (Post 8208554)
Stanzi must suck more cock than Skip Bayless at a Tebow rally
The news showed a clip of Orton making 3 throws under 15 yards. Two could be timed with a sundial. The other plopped in the dirt 5 yards short
Orton's motivation may not be quite at 100%

Okie_Apparition 12-16-2011 12:35 PM
He could have been mocking Palko :shrug:

talastan 12-16-2011 12:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition (Post 8208554)
Stanzi must suck more cock than Skip Bayless at a Tebow rally
The news showed a clip of Orton making 3 throws under 15 yards. Two could be timed with a sundial. The other plopped in the dirt 5 yards short
Stanzi is the rook that every HC for the Chiefs has always been afraid to play. Especially with RAC only having three games to show off his talents as a HC.

htismaqe 12-16-2011 12:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition (Post 8208554)
Stanzi must suck more cock than Skip Bayless at a Tebow rally
The news showed a clip of Orton making 3 throws under 15 yards. Two could be timed with a sundial. The other plopped in the dirt 5 yards short
Stanzi's talent, or lack thereof, has nothing to do with it.

Romeo is auditioning for a head coaching job, if not here then somewhere else.

This is the NFL, Orton starts for 9 out 10 teams in such a situation.

BoneKrusher 12-16-2011 12:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition (Post 8208569)
He could have been mocking Palko :shrug:
IMO Palko played well considering he learned to offense from Cassel.

monkey see monkey do.


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