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lcarus 01-09-2012 10:29 AM

Tebow is, when he's at his best, easy to root for and good enough to win close games. He has a ton of heart and can come through in the clutch.

The problem with Tebow is, when he's at his worst, he's been really really bad. Like...worst QB I've ever seen bad. He'll lose 2 games and look poor in the process, but then he'll turn around and win a big game (even if he plays poorly for most of the game) and all will be forgotten by most. Winning hides deficiencies.

That's just this year though. I honestly don't know if he will improve as a passer in the future or what.

HemiEd 01-09-2012 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8277497)
I like Tebow, just not as a QB.

I don't see how anybody could not like him, and I am starting to think Roger Goodell and the NFL REALLY like him.

Maybe the Chiefs should draft Collin Klein if he comes out?:p

Kerberos 01-09-2012 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 8278723)
Tebow is, when he's at his best, easy to root for and good enough to win close games. He has a ton of heart and can come through in the clutch.

The problem with Tebow is, when he's at his worst, he's been really really bad. Like...worst QB I've ever seen bad. He'll lose 2 games and look poor in the process, but then he'll turn around and win a big game (even if he plays poorly for most of the game) and all will be forgotten by most. Winning hides deficiencies.

That's just this year though. I honestly don't know if he will improve as a passer in the future or what.

He has LESS than a year of starts under his belt. I hope you are right...I REALLY DO. It pains me to think that he is better than that... but the kid has been a winner at every level he has played at since grade school. That is hard to dismiss when he beat Pittsburg (A beat up Pittsburg team albeit) but he beat them nonetheless.

Chiefnj2 01-09-2012 10:39 AM

If you can rush the passer with your front 4, you'll always have a good chance of winning a game.

I'd love it if Tebow could beat Belichick.

InChiefsHeaven 01-09-2012 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kerberos (Post 8278737)
He has LESS than a year of starts under his belt. I hope you are right...I REALLY DO. It pains me to think that he is better than that... but the kid has been a winner at every level he has played at since grade school. That is hard to dismiss when he beat Pittsburg (A beat up Pittsburg team albeit) but he beat them nonetheless.

Yep. Shit:

Playoff Wins

Tebow - 1

All Chiefs QB's since Tebow was 7 years old - 0

...yech...

lcarus 01-09-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kerberos (Post 8278737)
He has LESS than a year of starts under his belt. I hope you are right...I REALLY DO. It pains me to think that he is better than that... but the kid has been a winner at every level he has played at since grade school. That is hard to dismiss when he beat Pittsburg (A beat up Pittsburg team albeit) but he beat them nonetheless.

At the same time, Palko almost beat Pittsburgh as well. I'm not bashing Tebow today, but it's hard to say he'll be able to be a big winner in this league consistently when I doubt he'll ever be even close to the QB that Rodgers, Brees, or Brady is. You don't HAVE to be as good as those guys to win in this league, but your odds of winning a title with one of those elite QBs are a lot better.

So Denver should ride Tebow for all he's worth, but if they ever had a shot at grabbing a QB that could be on par with the elite guys (like Luck) you'd have to think they'd dump Tebow in a heartbeat.

Kerberos 01-09-2012 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8278727)
I don't see how anybody could not like him, and I am starting to think Roger Goodell and the NFL REALLY like him.

Maybe the Chiefs should draft Collin Klein if he comes out?:p

Klein is a stud.... he is not the same size as Tebow though IIRC?

Running through a college defense isn't the same as being sandwiched between James Harrison and Brett Keisel from the Steelers. Klein also doesn't have Jesus looking over him does he?

Chiefnj2 01-09-2012 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 8278782)
At the same time, Palko almost beat Pittsburgh as well. .

Didn't Palko turn the ball over 4 times? He didn't almost beat anything.

jcroft 01-09-2012 11:48 AM

Neither poll option works. He was a large part of Denver's success this year, but he still has no real future as an NFL QB.

YourMult 01-09-2012 11:53 AM

Shebow is the worst 1st string NFL QB I have ever seen.

Mile High Mania 01-09-2012 11:53 AM

It's not all Tebow... not when they lose and not when they win.

The defense played really well yesterday.
The OL kept Tebow upright with no sacks.
The coaches actually called aggressive plays... they mixed it up.

Bailey had several nice plays on defense, really looked like the Bailey of old.

Denver still gives up too many big yardage plays to TEs and 3rd/4th WRS... that will sting again vs NE.

lcarus 01-09-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8278879)
Didn't Palko turn the ball over 4 times? He didn't almost beat anything.

I agree. Just meant the Chiefs almost beat Pittsburgh with Palko. Which...would have been quite a feat considering how bad Palko sucks.

Kerberos 01-09-2012 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 8279021)
It's not all Tebow... not when they lose and not when they win.

The defense played really well yesterday.
The OL kept Tebow upright with no sacks.
The coaches actually called aggressive plays... they mixed it up.

Bailey had several nice plays on defense, really looked like the Bailey of old.

Denver still gives up too many big yardage plays to TEs and 3rd/4th WRS... that will sting again vs NE.

Do you have a nightmareish feeling of seeing Gronkowski have a highlight reel type day?

scho63 01-09-2012 01:32 PM

This statistic is really eerie and another poster mentioned part of this as soon as the game was over yesterday.

The devout Christian's stat line in Sunday's game mirrors the numbering of the Biblical passage that Tebow at times had painted on to his black eye paint during his career at the University of Florida -- John 3:16.
The passage reads, according to the New American Standard Bible, "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."
Officially, Tebow passed for 316 yards against the Steelers, completing 10 of 21 pass attempts -- meaning he passed for 31.6 yards per completion.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/09...#ixzz1izVo8W27

YourMult 01-09-2012 02:17 PM

Leave it to a devout Christian to notice some dumb shit like that. ****ing reeruns.

Bowser 01-09-2012 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lbedrock1 (Post 8278316)
What is so sad about this is they have a fullback that is better at qb then cassel is at qb.

Easy there, Skippy. Don't go exploring too far out on that limb. Hell, YOU may well be a better QB than Cassel is.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-09-2012 04:42 PM

Klein is Tebow without the hype.

durtyrute 01-09-2012 04:56 PM

I picked the ****ing donkos to win vs Pitt and I think they'll win in New England as well

Bump 01-09-2012 05:08 PM

he threw for over 300 yards and hit clutch throws in the playoffs to win, he has more wins than the Chiefs in 18 years. There isn't much to say but if this mother****er ends up beating the Pats it's gonna be chaos.


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