I'm keeping it in my bedroom next to my bed so I will only take it after I lay down for the night.

Good plan...

If you don't, you may have some weird ass hallucinations. Like, well I dunno...

Like gary busey clapping really slowly in black and white.


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LMAO

I'm willing to bet that's your issue. I never had sleep issues until about 2-3 weeks ago. We are expecting our first child in about a week, and my anxiety went through the roof. When are you moving? Couple things that helped me fall asleep was reading, sleepy time tea & listening to "sleep" music (nature sounds, soft r ain, etc). I've never had anxiety before, and specifically my mind would race at night. One negative thought turned into a thousand, and I just couldnt calm myself down. My doc gave me .25mg xanax to take at night about a hour before bed, and only gave me enough to last until the baby gets here. You should be good a week or so after your move. If your anxiety is still there, something else is bothering you.

Good luck bud.

Thanks for the advice all. Yesterday I slept only 2 hours total went to bed around 2 last night and would sleep for an hour or 2 then briefly wake up and go back to bed. This happened until I woke up at 1. Progress I think.

get a job, work hard.

it will do wonders for your sleep, until you decide to kill yourself.

Pleasant.
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Yeah he got his panties in a bunch when I said something negative about the Chiefs and has been on a week long period.

dont let this bitch lie to you.

it's not about anything he said about the chiefs.

i told him that in the response to the PM he sent me.

it's about the way he uses derogatory terms about people.

bundle of sticks, reerun, etc.

he knows i dont like that and he leaves me neg rep calling me a reerun and then sends me a PM saying i'm a reerun and the apple didnt fall far from the tree.

i have a disabled daughter. why would anyone try to talk shit about that?


so in closing i will say whatever i want to that POS.

has he killed himself yet?

i would tell him to go **** his mother but i have a feeling that's the only pussy he's ever gotten.

Wow butthurt

Did you seriously say that about his daughter?

I did call him reeruned but not because of his daughter but because of the shit he gets mad about. I said the apple didn't fall far from the tree because in another thread where he makes fun of people from the burbs I allude to his people being junkies.

Oh.

Not true. He is a ****ing liar.

I deleted the pm because I was ****ing pissed but now I wish I hadn't.

He called me a reerun then said the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I have a disabled daughter. You take it how you want.

**** him.
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Actually it's there with what I sent him back. But I dont know how to show it, from my phone or computer.

The sentence is "you are reeruned and the apple didn't fall far from the tree"

He is a racist, homophobe, liar, and likes to degrade people that can't help what they are.

**** him.
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Nowhere did I mention your daughter and you do act reeruned about the smallest shit. JFC.

keep being a pussy and not just be honest about what you said and meant.

Thats the thing about honor and respect if you stre going to say it man up and stick to your guns.

Like I said you dont want to run into me somewhere, you dont.

you didn't infer anything about my "people" using meth. You said I was in westport to score meth.

I told you I've never tried meth, but if I wanted to I would just get it at here, you know where there are a ton of meth cooks and users.

But good try at making yourself not look like a flaming asshole.
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I've mentioned plenty of times in the past you're a methead from backwoods Missouri. You're posting style would indicate that easily flying off the handle about minute things that don't even have to do with you. I never once mentioned your daughter I was talking strictly bout you so go **** yourself.

Gun in your mouth would help on here?

Just saying make the world better by subtraction.

Then what apple fell from the tree? Me from my father? My father isn't mentally disabled? He has never used drugs & lives in kck.

If you know someone has a disabled child (and you do) and you call that person a reerun and say the apple didn't fall far from the tree it's pretty obvious what you meant.

Pussy ass bitch.
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You're doing a lot of assuming. I'm sorry if you think I was talking about your daughter I really am because I wasn't. Anyway i'm done defending myself to you because you're a dumbass with anger issues and theres no reasoning with the insane.

Jason,

Don't let the POS bother you. He's a miserable, miserable, miserable ****ing person. He won't get a job, he lives with mom, he's fat, he couldn't get a girl with a $5,000 bill hanging from his zipper...

He's just a total detriment to society. He isn't productive in the least bit. He makes fun of people on here because he's faced it his whole life so he's "giving it to the man" to make himself feel better...to give himself that temporary therapy and forget for a minute or two who a gigantic waste of life he is...

dude has no self-esteem and is just a depressed waste of oxygen...I honestly feel bad for him

I told him he needs to PM clay and get some advice on how to get in the gym, lose that weight, and start building confidence and self-esteem

Clay has really turned into a pretty good person after years of going through the 'billay syndrome'...

Lol the only one assuming is you. You couldn't be more wrong about me...

Read the sentence again

"you are a reerun and the apple didn't fall far from the tree"

I think i'm right on.
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Hootie, I almost said that he had made me respect clay more today, all the back and forth ive done with clay and even he has never played that card. (knock on wood, clay you ****er :) )
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This is hilarious.

I get banned from this board once a month for getting into some dumbass battle with Frazod and Dartgod (they are buddies with the mods and report posts when they have no rebuttal)...but I'm not sure why they waste time on me when a guy like billay runs around and enters every single thread just to make some ridiculous attack on someone...

It's one thing if the guy is DaneMcCloud and actually has some sort of life accomplishments to fall back on...

It's another thing if it's fatass billay who has never paid for rent, doesn't have a job, takes "muscle" pics in his mother's bedroom bathroom, and is definitely a virgin...

Seriously...ChiefsPlanet is his defense mechanism...he is so miserable with his life that he comes on here and acts the way he does for some temporary therapy to get away from all of his shortcomings.

So be honored he's insulting you, he only insults those he envies.

Frazod has a gun.
and hinders his cell phone ability because I heard they R scared.

Just what I got from my cell. No links. Will provide when I get a bill.

Electronics anyway.

Must be a slow night at the pizza ranch Hootie.

I moved to Dallas and was instantly hired into restaurant management.

That's what happens when you build a resume and work hard and gather a lot of good references...

and no, your mom isn't a good reference...but it's cool that you do your chores and keep your room clean! Perhaps you'll get a little chocolate sauce with that ice cream tonight after din-din!

I see why billay tried to come at me today.

A little asshurt after the beating dj, clay, and hootie laid on ya huh boy?
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Asshurt? You're the one saying shit like I better not see you in person LMAO

I hope he doesn't run into you, either...you'd call your mom before a fight ever started, and tell on him!

Grats Hootie now you can afford champagne-laced saliva on your potential victims.

Champaign is where I used to live, champagne is a drink. You're an idiot. Make sense?

You probably won't, i'm just saying you really wouldnt want to ginger.
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You're right I hate panhandlers.

Exactly. Good to know that some men know what's best for them while others will lose sleep at night vs. trying to avoid 'being gay.' LMAOLMAOLMAO

I've tried mediation before and it didn't do much TBH.

Aromatherapy dates back thousands of years. Before big pharma and media influence that lead some insecure men to feel that holistic practices are not masculine.

Mediation? Wouldn't help you sleep. It probably would cause you to lose sleep.

No i'm talking about in general. It didn't do much at all.

Pretty weak if you in anyway called this dudes little girl what he is claiming you called her Billay.

Did you miss the half dozen posts where I explained I never said anything about her?

Homosexuality dates back thousands of years as well...
Coincidence? Maybe.
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People who lived to 40 were considered old thousands of years ago. That was before the big pharma though.

Holistic practices aren't gender related. And I'm pretty sure it's that whole "having sex with another guy" thing that makes you gay, not what you wear/ingest/smell/listen to. Which has nothing to do with using "gay" as a derogatory label. There are very few black and white issues in this world. Most of it is just another shade of grey. I've already tried meditation (with and without being lead) and nothing but a pill was going to work in this situation.

What kind of meditation? Seriously. I am not one who does it often but when I am stressed or can't sleep, etc., I go sit on my chair, put on some very calming music, close my eyes and focus on my breathing and nothing else. Very controled breaths...inhale while counting to 4, hold while counting to 4, exhale while counting to 4. Just focus on the sound of your breath. this is where is gets a bit off the manly path but imagine all your negative energy leaving your body through the crown of your head. Don't think about the negativity in specifics, just picture a light. such as a red light or or whatever color you associate with stress and negativity streaming out of your head. It might take a few times to get the hang of it but the bottom line is it calms you and empties your mind.

If that doesn't work try some herbal tea about 30 minutes before bedtime and reading. Don't read anything too cerebral. Do NOT watch TV or fall asleep with the TV on or it will **** with your dreams and cause you to not have a good night's rest.

Another thing I do at times is go back to your favorite times as a child or teen. Reminisce on your childhood dreams and fantasies. I played guitar growing up and of course always had the dream of being a rock star. I think back to the after-school jam sessions my friends and I would do and such. It puts me in a happy state of mind and relaxes me.

You have to figure out what works for you but please don't try the drug route unless you absolutely have too. Holistic and meditative remedies take a little time to get down pat but they work and are a lot more healthy for you both mentaly and physically.

I am not sure if you said stress was your issue or not but stress is usually why someone can't sleep. Your mind is going a million miles and hour and usualy about negative things. Just do whatever it is you have to do to put yourself in a positive state of mind and a relaxed physical state before you hit the pillow.

Ambien Walrus agrees with this post. As do I.
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That's not true. Meditation is very good for clearing your mind, relaxing your body and eliminating stress.

I am not familiar with your situation, of course, but to me the drug route is usually considered to be the "only thing that worked" by people who are impatient or just have it in their mind that nothing else is going to work. It's not a flaw, per sey. We are an instant gratification species now and we have been raised with the expectation of quick results and sour quickly on anything that doesn't produce such. We get a headache, we take an advil and in 15 minutes we are good to go. the probalem with the whole pharma route is the nasty side effects. Natural remedies have worked for thousands of years but yes, they take longer but are better for you.

Again though, we are impatient as a people these days. Want to lose weight? You can eat healthy and exercise or you can say **** that, take a pill and shove down the double-cheese and still drop weight. It gets buried in our subconscience at an early age and it's hard to break away from that habitual line of thinking.

Then again, sometimes the Pharma route is the only way to go but hopefully a laundry list of alternatives have been tried before you get to that point.

He wrote mediation. Not meditation. ;)

Oh..LMAO....gotcha

This wasn't mediation for sleep I did it was some sort of Buddhist mediation a few years ago.

For sleep I took a warm shower before bed and tossed one out. It was actually rather relaxing.

As ****ed up as it sounds firing off some knuckle children, assuming you don't have a woman to plow, is a good way to relieve some stress....LMAO

I'll give my personal input here for what it's worth;

I'm 22 and have had issues with OCD/ depression and anxiety for as long as I can remember. When I was younger I had no idea what was wrong. I'd worry about the strangest things. I had chest pains, or I'd convince myself I had some sort of disease I heard about on TV. It wasn't until my Freshman year of college that I sought help for what had plagued me for so long. After trying out a few different meds I am now setup on Effexor 150 mg per day, Up to 3 mg of Klonipin per day, and 10mg of Ambien at night.

When I first started taking Ambien it was like a dream world. I had never been happier in all my life. I would lay in bed and just think about how great things were. I'd sing, I'd clean my room, I'd play video games- I thought it was simply put the best thing ever. Those effects have now worn off and it simply helps me get a good 6-8 hours of sleep per night. I would say it helped me out tremendously, just be careful when you first start taking it.

Ah- I've also tried Lunesta. That shit gave me insomnia. Would not recommend that one bit.

Hmm wouldn't the Klonopin itself knock you out? I had that prescribed to me only did it a few times due to the nature of addiction to those kind of pills I decide it was better not taking it.

Ya know.. I am sure it was gone over but do you have any symptoms of a sinus infection?

The Klonopin doesn't have much of a sedative effect on me. It more or less helps me relax and helps get my mind back in order. I have also taken Ativan (same class of drug as Klonopin) and it did indeed make me sleepy and would knock me out. Different drugs effect people differently I suppose

I thought that could be a possibility at first because I was coughing up this gunk anytime I was in my room a few weeks ago but since I've dusted and cleaned. I don't have headaches or anything.

It felt like I smoked the finest blunt whenever I took it but that's why I stopped because it seemed to easy to get addicted to.

I might get blasted for posting this, (especially by Gonzo LMAO), but have you considered Ambient Music Therapy? I tried this a few years back and it's really relaxing. I honestly don't know why I stopped, but I'm thinking about doing it again. IIRC, I had some really cool dreams! :thumb:

Live365.com has a pretty good selection, but there are commercials. Meh. Here's a link to their Ambient stations... http://www.live365.com/index.live. Cox Cable also has an On Demand station called, "Soundscapes". I would either fall asleep listening to that or one of my "Enigma" cd's.

You know Lumpy, I spoke to Gonzo earlier he said there were some pics of you to ask about that might me help dream?

BTW I appreciate the music suggestion.

My sinus infections really just make my jaw hurt. I just got over one (antibiotics ftw) and it kept me awake 4 nights in a row before I finally went to the dr.

I am the Walrus. Listopencil is outside dancing naked with the hedge trimmer. He thinks he's attending Junior Prom. I'll go get him if it gets too late.

Nice try. :p

You're welcome.

Enigma is amazing but they are more yoga music than sleepy music for me. I like Tibetan Bowls, thunderstorms, and other types of ocean or rain relaxation music.

Here is a good collection of articles on TLC about sleep and natural aids.

http://tlc.howstuffworks.com/family/...leep-aids2.htm

There are a few "Enigma" songs that are a bit fast-paced too, but I never had a problem falling asleep to any of them.

I tried the ocean and rain sounds before, but they always gave me the urge to go pee. LMAO

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Edit: Btw, I tried robotripping once and my cat began laughing at me. I would highly suggest that people w/ pets steer clear.

this will help billay, turn on low and drink some nyquil, be sure to fap and be sure the heat is down to 68 degrees. - itune that bitch, any cooking questions? <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/S-x6BU9u0sQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

:clap: ROFL

I feel safe taking it and don't believe I will get addicted to it. It's a C IV drug- meaning the possibility of becoming hooked is there, but not as likely as if you were taking hydrocodone (Loratab) , or even stronger pain medication (oxycodone, morphine etc) or something like an amphetamine to keep you focused. I have some background in medicine, (I'm a pharmacy tech- been interested in medicine, and abuse of medication my whole life) but I'm certainly no expert. I do hope you find something to remedy your insomnia though :thumb: