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sedated 01-16-2012 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8300441)
I see it as..

Defensive teams:
Denver 1-1
Steelers 0-1
Niners 1-0
Baltimore 1-0
Giants 2-0

Offensive teams:
NO 1-1
Detroit 0-1
NE 1-0
Falcons 0-1
Bengals 0-1
GB 0-1
Houston 1-1
(I haven't read any of the thread, so not sure if it has been brought up)

uhh....the Texans and Bengals were offensive teams? WTF? They were 2nd and 7th this year in total defense, 4th and 9th in scoring defense.

And I'm not sure I would label the Giants as "defensive" - they have some pass-rushers but their D let them down all season. They were 27th this year in total defense, 25th in scoring defense. Meanwhile they were 8th in total offense and 9th in scoring offense.

Stat fail, pete.

Deberg_1990 01-16-2012 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 8302547)
He was their secondary coach when they beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl too. It's funny how those things work. Colts fans hated DC Vic Fangio, and he really wasn't very successful... he failed in Indy, didn't do very well in Houston either... really hadn't done anything of note in almost 15 years. Now he's coordinating the Niners defense, and in one season they look really nasty, top 5 in several defensive categories, and probably had some of the best run defense numbers in recent NFL history.
heh, yea...its funny how they do your right. Its the NFL, funny things can happen. Thats why i dont get worked up too much about co-ordinators. IMO talent trumps playcalling and co-ordinators every time. Those Vermeil teams had NO TALENT on defense.

Deberg_1990 01-16-2012 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8302603)

And I'm not sure I would label the Giants as "defensive" - they have some pass-rushers but their D let them down all season.
Who cares how the played earlier in the season? They are playing well now when it truly matters.

Chiefnj2 01-16-2012 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8302610)
heh, yea...its funny how they do your right. Its the NFL, funny things can happen. Thats why i dont get worked up too much about co-ordinators. IMO talent trumps playcalling and co-ordinators every time. Those Vermeil teams had NO TALENT on defense.
You need talent to win, but talent doesn't guarantee a win. There is no excuse why a team like the Falcons couldn't put any points on the board against the Giants.

Discuss Thrower 01-16-2012 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8302615)
You need talent to win, but talent doesn't guarantee a win. There is no excuse why a team like the Falcons couldn't put any points on the board against the Giants.
Quarterback...

lcarus 01-16-2012 01:46 PM
The Giants are good all around.

htismaqe 01-16-2012 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8302615)
You need talent to win, but talent doesn't guarantee a win. There is no excuse why a team like the Falcons couldn't put any points on the board against the Giants.
The Falcons QB is WAY overrated...

Fritz88 01-16-2012 01:50 PM
The winner this year is from the NFC. Both teams are balanced on both sides of the ball, with the edge to NYG.

sedated 01-16-2012 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8302613)
Who cares how the played earlier in the season? They are playing well now when it truly matters.
oh, okay. So the day after Matt Cassel throws for 4 TDs, you consider him a elite offensive player?

Chiefnj2 01-16-2012 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8302663)
The Falcons QB is WAY overrated...
He's not horrible. The Falcons have enough talent that they certainly should not have been shut out.

JD10367 01-16-2012 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 8302511)
I don't read you much. The reason: Your posts are not worthy of my time.

However, you wouldn't know 'elite' if it smacked you in your face.

Football 101: Quarterback stats are useless.
I don't read you much. The reason: you're a reeruned idiot.

And I won't even mention what's probably been smacked in your face.

Deberg_1990 01-16-2012 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8302700)
oh, okay. So the day after Matt Cassel throws for 4 TDs, you consider him a elite offensive player?
If he did it in a divisional playoff game, championship and super bowl like Eli, then sure. Season stats are fine and dandy, but prove it when it really matters. I don't care about season stats much when the playoffs start.
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htismaqe 01-16-2012 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8302705)
He's not horrible. The Falcons have enough talent that they certainly should not have been shut out.
He can't carry the team. If they can't run, they can't score.

jspchief 01-16-2012 08:33 PM
Ironically, it was the niners D that let NO back in it, and their O that won the game.


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