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Dartgod 02-03-2012 07:37 PM

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Dartgod 02-03-2012 07:39 PM

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Dartgod 02-03-2012 07:40 PM

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Dartgod 02-03-2012 07:40 PM

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Dartgod 02-03-2012 07:41 PM

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Dartgod 02-03-2012 07:42 PM

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Dartgod 02-03-2012 07:45 PM

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Bambi 02-03-2012 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 8346751)

Lol

Mr_Tomahawk 02-03-2012 07:50 PM


Dartgod 02-03-2012 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8346773)

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Dartgod 02-03-2012 07:54 PM

What is the difference between a KU cheerleader and a catfish?







A: One has whiskers and smells, the other is a fish.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-03-2012 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 8346777)
What is the difference between a MU cheerleader and a catfish?







A: One has whiskers and smells, the other is a fish.

Good one.

Bambi 02-03-2012 08:17 PM

MU is all in on this game. Should be fun

Saul Good 02-03-2012 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8346800)
MU is all in on this game. Should be fun

What does that even mean?

Captain Obvious 02-03-2012 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8346805)
What does that even mean?

Heh, can't wait to hear a well constructed answer.

crispystl 02-03-2012 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious (Post 8346857)
Heh, can't wait to hear a well constructed answer.

This is our biggest home basketball game ever. The campus buzz is insane. We're all in!

crispystl 02-03-2012 09:28 PM

We win this game and we have the inside track. It's there for the taking.

mnchiefsguy 02-03-2012 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8346805)
What does that even mean?

He has been buying into that bullcrap the KK has been spouting all week about how this game is more important to Mizzou than a final four appearance.

Saul Good 02-03-2012 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8346867)
He has been buying into that bullcrap the KK has been spouting all week about how this game is more important to Mizzou than a final four appearance.

This game is the bonus round as far as I'm concerned. After landing DGB, everything else is just gravy.

Pablo 02-03-2012 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8346873)
This game is the bonus round as far as I'm concerned. After landing DGB, everything else is just gravy.

Just curious. Is this how the rest of you MU fans feel too? This game and basketball rivalry are second rate to landing DGB?

Chiefs Pantalones 02-03-2012 11:14 PM

MU's Super Bowl!!! Will MU make t-shirts if they win?

KcMizzou 02-03-2012 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 8346962)
Just curious. Is this how the rest of you MU fans feel too? This game and basketball rivalry are second rate to landing DGB?

Landing DGB is awesome. HUGE for Mizzou football. In the grand scheme of things, it's bigger than any one game in any sport.

That said, hell yeah, This game tomorrow important to me. It's huge. I want this. I refuse to act like it doesn't matter.

KcMizzou 02-03-2012 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 8346984)
MU's Super Bowl!!! Will MU make t-shirts if they win?

You're a caricature of a KU fan.

KcMizzou 02-04-2012 01:44 AM

Kimmie got his wish.

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Imon Yourside 02-04-2012 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 8346984)
MU's Super Bowl!!! Will MU make t-shirts if they win?

Bucknell on the front/Mu on the back.

KcMizzou 02-04-2012 01:55 AM

Kim English : "We'll reconcile it by winning."

Not to put it all on him, but he said that, and they have.

KcMizzou 02-04-2012 02:24 AM

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Chief_in_Commander 02-04-2012 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 8346777)
What is the difference between a KU cheerleader and a catfish?







A: One has whiskers and smells, the other is a fish.

Why does Mizzou's golf course only have 14 holes??


Cause no one there can ever reach the final 4.

jab0450 02-04-2012 02:31 AM

Three guys, a Tiger, a Jayhawk, and a Longhorn walking along the beach together one day. They come across a lantern and a Genie pops out of it. "I will give you each one wish, that's three wishes total," says the Genie. The Longhorn says, "I am studying to be a farmer, my dad was a farmer and my son will also farm. I want the land in Texas to forever be fertile. With a blink of the Genie's eye, 'POOF' the land across Texas was made forever fertile. The Jayhawk was amazed, so he said, "I want a wall around Lawrence, so that no one can come into our precious city." Again, with a blink of the Genie's eye, 'POOF' there was a huge wall around Lawrence. The Tigers says, "I'm very courious. Please tell me more about this wall." The Genie explains, "Well, it's about 150 feet high, 50 feet thick and nothing can get in or out." The Tiger says, "Fill it with water."

kstater 02-04-2012 06:32 AM

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Pablo 02-04-2012 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 8346997)
Landing DGB is awesome. HUGE for Mizzou football. In the grand scheme of things, it's bigger than any one game in any sport.

That said, hell yeah, This game tomorrow important to me. It's huge. I want this. I refuse to act like it doesn't matter.

Gotcha.

I'd be pretty ****ing amped if KU landed the best baller in the nation this week, but it wouldn't diminish the importance or excitement of this game for me at all.

ExtremeChief 02-04-2012 08:08 AM

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Saul Good 02-04-2012 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 8347414)
Gotcha.

I'd be pretty ****ing amped if KU landed the best baller in the nation this week, but it wouldn't diminish the importance or excitement of this game for me at all.

Don't get me wrong, I still want to win this game. I'm just not going to get overly worked up about it. Even if w win, I'm not going to be half as excited as I was when DGB announced.

Messier 02-04-2012 09:57 AM

I like Kim English a lot. And I'm worried about him in this game, but he's a really nice guy, and just saw him put Jack Harry in his place.

Way-to-go!

DJ's left nut 02-04-2012 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 8346962)
Just curious. Is this how the rest of you MU fans feel too? This game and basketball rivalry are second rate to landing DGB?

Yup, not even close.

In college basketball, a single regular season game will never truly be all that critical. I'll be irritated if we lose this game (because we shouldn't), but ultimately we're still going to the tournament and we're still going to have a solid seed, even with a loss.

If this were an Elite 8 game, it'd be more important than DGB. But as a regular season game no, it does not matter nearly as much as landing the #1 college football recruit in the country.

petegz28 02-04-2012 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 8347282)

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Saul Good 02-04-2012 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8347540)
Yup, not even close.

In college basketball, a single regular season game will never truly be all that critical. I'll be irritated if we lose this game (because we shouldn't), but ultimately we're still going to the tournament and we're still going to have a solid seed, even with a loss.

If this were an Elite 8 game, it'd be more important than DGB. But as a regular season game no, it does not matter nearly as much as landing the #1 college football recruit in the country.

Would you rather make a FF and not land DGB than the other way around? I wouldn't unless we won the title.

DJ's left nut 02-04-2012 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 8347256)
Kimmie got his wish.

When Kim decides he's done with basketball, I'll be extremely disappointed if MU doesn't make a major major push to keep him in the family.

He could probably be a premier radio/television guy, but I'd rather see him come onboard to become a homegrown head-coach possibility.

DJ's left nut 02-04-2012 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8347545)
Would you rather make a FF and not land DGB than the other way around? I wouldn't unless we won the title.

I'd rather make a Final Four.

College sports are still played on the field/floor. DGB may help win us a divisional championship. Then again - he may not.

If the choice is between a Final 4 or football conference championship - I'll take the championship.

But if it's just 1 player vs. a Final 4 - I want that Final 4.

DJ's left nut 02-04-2012 10:11 AM

Dave Matter's tweet:

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If I just woke up from a coma and watched GameDay I'd ask, "Wait, why would Kansas want to end this series?" Then I'd ask "What is a DGB?"

Mr_Tomahawk 02-04-2012 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8347545)
Would you rather make a FF and not land DGB than the other way around? I wouldn't unless we won the title.

Wow.

Signatures are more important than wins?

Things all of a sudden make a lot more sense around here...

mnchiefsguy 02-04-2012 10:36 AM

Competitors play. ku is not a competitor since they are unwilling to play MU, per College Gameday.

Shagworthy 02-04-2012 10:42 AM

Just now on gameday. "I feel like if we lost every game, but won this one, it would be a successful season." - Kim English



MU's Superbowl confirmed.

Messier 02-04-2012 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8347614)
Competitors play. ku is not a competitor since they are unwilling to play MU, per College Gameday.

They also drafted 4 Tigers out of 15 players in a three team draft. They're in Columbia.

KcMizzou 02-04-2012 10:52 AM

English on Dixon - "He likes a lot of Tri Delts and Delta Gammas." LMAO

Reerun_KC 02-04-2012 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8347620)
They also drafted 4 Tigers out of 15 players in a three team draft. They're in Columbia.

well fantasy is much more fun than reality...

Saul Good 02-04-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8347573)
Wow.

Signatures are more important than wins?

Things all of a sudden make a lot more sense around here...

Football recruits versus basketball wins? I'll take the football recruits.

Simplicity 02-04-2012 11:56 AM

Kansas is going to take a load all over Mizzou today. You guys know that right?

Imon Yourside 02-04-2012 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8347726)
Football recruits versus basketball wins? I'll take the football recruits.

I'll take both! /KU

Simplicity 02-04-2012 12:00 PM

GO I-O-W-A!

Imon Yourside 02-04-2012 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8347726)
Football recruits versus basketball wins? I'll take the football recruits.

Also...Bill Snyder hates this line of thinking.

Braincase 02-04-2012 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8347573)
Wow.

Signatures are more important than wins?

Things all of a sudden make a lot more sense around here...

They're putting up a banner. Should we put one up for swiping the top basketball recruit in Missouri last year?

Silock 02-04-2012 12:35 PM

Even with DGB, it's the 11th rated class in the SEC... why is everyone so pumped? Vanderbilt had a better recruiting class than MU . . .

Saul Good 02-04-2012 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 8347831)
Even with DGB, it's the 11th rated class in the SEC... why is everyone so pumped? Vanderbilt had a better recruiting class than MU . . .

We got the all time passing leader in high school history.

We also got the all time receiving leader in high school history.


The team is going to be loaded next year. The ranking is low because it was a small class. That's fine because we don't have a lot of holes, and it leaves us more scholarships for next year.

Silock 02-04-2012 12:51 PM

If you say so. That's still only 1 5-star and 1 4-star. Not saying you guys shouldn't be excited about the guys, but I think it's going to take a lot more to be even *competitive* in the SEC.

Saul Good 02-04-2012 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 8347848)
If you say so. That's still only 1 5-star and 1 4-star. Not saying you guys shouldn't be excited about the guys, but I think it's going to take a lot more to be even *competitive* in the SEC.

Your concern is duly noted.

tredadda 02-04-2012 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8347545)
Would you rather make a FF and not land DGB than the other way around? I wouldn't unless we won the title.

Final Four and it is not even close. As good as DGB is, a final four easily trumps it. DGB wont win us any NCG and we have to wait till next year to see how much of an impact he has on our recruiting. We have 0 zero final four appearances ever. That will do more good for at least BB recruiting than DGB will do for CFB recruiting.

tredadda 02-04-2012 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 8347831)
Even with DGB, it's the 11th rated class in the SEC... why is everyone so pumped? Vanderbilt had a better recruiting class than MU . . .

Mizzou's recruiting class is ranked low because of the quantity of recruits. In terms of quality, they ranked much higher.

DJ's left nut 02-04-2012 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 8347848)
If you say so. That's still only 1 5-star and 1 4-star. Not saying you guys shouldn't be excited about the guys, but I think it's going to take a lot more to be even *competitive* in the SEC.

Don't forget how circular the Rivals ratings are.

When Notre Dame was considered the front-runner for Mauk, it was a given that it was just a matter of time before Mauk ended up a 4-star. He went out there and set the world on fire as a Senior but still didn't get that 4th star after signing with Mizzou. It wasn't because of his performance.

Rivals will concede that they base part of their ratings on what schools are pursuing a player. Every year there are several players that get stars added because they go to Alabama or Oklahoma or whatever. So to a degree, teams like Alabama get 3 or 4 extra 'stars' each year by virtue of the fact that they're chasing the kid.

Ultimately, the difference between the top 1/2 of the 3 stars and the bottom 1/2 of the 4 stars is nominal at best. That's where most classes come from for all but the 'blue-blood' power programs.

Ultimately, I'd rather have 2 5-stars and a ton of 3 high 3-stars, than to have 4 4-stars and a bunch of 3-stars.

Getting that 5-star, a clearly elite talent, is more critical than getting a couple of extra 4-stars (guys who are just a little better than the 3-stars, if better at all).

That's not to say I'm not disappointed with the class, but it has nothing to do with the 'star' ratings. I think we lost on a couple of undervalued DTs and a couple of O-lineman that would've all been very nice players for us. All of them were 3-star kids, but they were kids with projectable frames and nice pedigrees that I expected to outperform those rankings.

DJ's left nut 02-04-2012 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8347871)
Mizzou's recruiting class is ranked low because of the quantity of recruits. In terms of quality, they ranked much higher.

Not really. They only move up to 8 in terms of 'quantity'.

If you're looking at Rivals and trying to judge Mizzou's class by that, you're going to be disappointed. There's not a way to spin the scouting service rankings in a way that helps Mizzou out a great deal.

It was DGB, Mauk, Boehm and a bunch of JAGs according to Rivals. That said, I think a lot of those 4-star guys are no more/less JAGS than a bunch of the 3-star guys.

The rankings are overrated.

Simplicity 02-04-2012 01:19 PM

Why are you guys even comparing FF to landing DGB? Are you serious? You would rather land a kid who is very young and you don't even know if he can even preform in a College atmosphere. Rather then Mizzou representing in the Final Four... Wow...

Saul Good 02-04-2012 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8347886)
Not really. They only move up to 8 in terms of 'quantity'.

If you're looking at Rivals and trying to judge Mizzou's class by that, you're going to be disappointed. There's not a way to spin the scouting service rankings in a way that helps Mizzou out a great deal.

It was DGB, Mauk, Boehm and a bunch of JAGs according to Rivals. That said, I think a lot of those 4-star guys are no more/less JAGS than a bunch of the 3-star guys.

The rankings are overrated.

Agreed. I think Pinkel and his staff have shown that they know how to find guys that fit their system and coach them up. This was evident back when we were getting 2 and 3 star guys. Now, we only recruited a single 2 star while getting a 4 star and the best player in the country. That's in a year in which we lost several of our recruits, as we had pitched them on playing in Texas.

tredadda 02-04-2012 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8347886)
Not really. They only move up to 8 in terms of 'quantity'.

If you're looking at Rivals and trying to judge Mizzou's class by that, you're going to be disappointed. There's not a way to spin the scouting service rankings in a way that helps Mizzou out a great deal.

It was DGB, Mauk, Boehm and a bunch of JAGs according to Rivals. That said, I think a lot of those 4-star guys are no more/less JAGS than a bunch of the 3-star guys.

The rankings are overrated.

Moving up 8 spots in quality is actually pretty significant. It gives us a top 25 recruiting class. I prefer quality over quantity. When I say quality I do not necessarily mean 5 star talent. I am happy with a bunch of solid 3 stars. If you look back on some of our old rankings you might be surprised at how some of our players were ranked. One that sticks out that I remember is Weatherspoon who had zero stars and was rated as a 40 overall. He turned out very good and ended up being a first round pick. HCGP does a good job with under the radar players which is why class rankings don't mean a whole lot to me. He will need to prove it if we are going to achieve sustained success in the SEC. We should compete this year and possibly next, but after that we will see.

Saul Good 02-04-2012 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 8347914)
Why are you guys even comparing FF to landing DGB? Are you serious? You would rather land a kid who is very young and you don't even know if he can even preform in a College atmosphere. Rather then Mizzou representing in the Final Four... Wow...

Because football matters a lot more to me than basketball. Take a look at the #1 overall recruits in the past decade. You'll find guys like Vince Young, Matt Barkley, and Adrian Peterson.

tredadda 02-04-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8347922)
Because football matters a lot more to me than basketball. Take a look at the #1 overall recruits in the past decade. You'll find guys like Vince Young, Matt Barkley, and Adrian Peterson.

Look at the programs they played for and the recruiting classes they came in with. Mizzou is not at their level in any way as of right now.

DJ's left nut 02-04-2012 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8347920)
Moving up 8 spots in quality is actually pretty significant. It gives us a top 25 recruiting class. I prefer quality over quantity. When I say quality I do not necessarily mean 5 star talent. I am happy with a bunch of solid 3 stars. If you look back on some of our old rankings you might be surprised at how some of our players were ranked. One that sticks out that I remember is Weatherspoon who had zero stars and was rated as a 40 overall. He turned out very good and ended up being a first round pick. HCGP does a good job with under the radar players which is why class rankings don't mean a whole lot to me. He will need to prove it if we are going to achieve sustained success in the SEC. We should compete this year and possibly next, but after that we will see.

You misunderstand me, or perhaps I did a poor job of explaining.

We move from 11 in the conference to 8 based on the average 'strength of stars' ranking. Our average recruit is something like a 3.11 star; only nominally better than Vanderbilt and Kentucky. From a 'stars' standpoint, the quality isn't even really that spectacular.

Don't look at the rankings if you're wanting to defend this class. There are ways to do it, but it ain't with Rivals or Scout.

It's by pointing out that a guy like L'Damian Washington, 2-star recruit, is likely to be better when all is said and done than Bud Sasser or Jimmy Hunt, the 4-star studs we got in 2010. Or even that 4-star recruit we got out of Texas. Or yeah, by pointing out that Spoon was a 1-star 'athlete' that we simply coached into a stud.

But it's also fair to be honest - the class was underwhelming outside of DGB and Mauk. If you got the coaching staff in a moment of candor, I think they'd say the same.

Saul Good 02-04-2012 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8347928)
Look at the programs they played for and the recruiting classes they came in with. Mizzou is not at their level in any way as of right now.

What's your point? You don't think having a Calvin Johnson type WR on our team will come in handy?

O.city 02-04-2012 01:28 PM

With what Mizzou already had on the roster they added a potential Calvin Johnson type prospect, I'd say it was a good offseason. Not great in that they lost some guys that could have really turned out but solid.

I'm of a different breed. Grew up in a split househould in that mom was a KU fan and dad is a MU guy.

I went the KU way because of basketball but I have alot of respect for the Tiger football program and tend to hope for them to have success.

Funny story in that I think dad had a chance to go to the game today in Columbia and asked if I was interested. I politely declined as I don't think I would have been accepted in Mizzou arena with my Hawk apparel very well. I think mom and dad are gonna make the trip up to KC and go to AFH for the OK. State game. Dad's not too excited about it but he said he could suffer thru it.

ANyway back to the subject. Dorial is a great get for the TIger program.

Saul Good 02-04-2012 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8347932)
You misunderstand me, or perhaps I did a poor job of explaining.

We move from 11 in the conference to 8 based on the average 'strength of stars' ranking. Our average recruit is something like a 3.11 star; only nominally better than Vanderbilt and Kentucky. From a 'stars' standpoint, the quality isn't even really that spectacular.

Don't look at the rankings if you're wanting to defend this class. There are ways to do it, but it ain't with Rivals or Scout.

It's by pointing out that a guy like L'Damian Washington, 2-star recruit, is likely to be better when all is said and done than Bud Sasser or Jimmy Hunt, the 4-star studs we got in 2010. Or even that 4-star recruit we got out of Texas. Or yeah, by pointing out that Spoon was a 1-star 'athlete' that we simply coached into a stud.

But it's also fair to be honest - the class was underwhelming outside of DGB and Mauk. If you got the coaching staff in a moment of candor, I think they'd say the same.

I think the staff really likes this class. I'm sure they'd have liked a couple more players, but there are some nice pieces in there.

We got studs at Guard/Tackle, QB, and WR. That alone makes it a nice haul.

Simplicity 02-04-2012 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8347922)
Because football matters a lot more to me than basketball. Take a look at the #1 overall recruits in the past decade. You'll find guys like Vince Young, Matt Barkley, and Adrian Peterson.

You guys actually think your recruits are gonna turn your program around... LOL...
Your program is garbage right now... Couple freshman is not going to change much.. But anyways good luck.

Saul Good 02-04-2012 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 8347944)
You guys actually think your recruits are gonna turn your program around... LOL...
Your program is garbage right now... Couple freshman is not going to change much.. But anyways good luck.

7 straight bowl games and the number 1 recruit in the country along with a move to the SEC, and we're garbage?

DJ's left nut 02-04-2012 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 8347944)
You guys actually think your recruits are gonna turn your program around... LOL...
Your program is garbage right now... Couple freshman is not going to change much.. But anyways good luck.

When you started to get a hard-on after Milkman and dipshit started slinging dick-jokes at each other, I suspected you might be a mouth-breathing imbecile.

After paying more attention to your posts thereafter, I think that hunch stands confirmed.

You really aren't very bright, are you? Whatever, not wasting my time with a run of the mill troll. You're just another flame-bating half-wit that can't put a coherent argument together; hardly worth anyone's time.

DJ's left nut 02-04-2012 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8347947)
7 straight bowl games and the number 1 recruit in the country along with a move to the SEC, and we're garbage?

Stop, just stop.

Seriously, he's another Pawnsmoker. Go look in that OC thread - he and 50/50 are essentially opposite sides of the same coin. He's just a bomb-thrower; don't let him divert the thread. Put him on ignore and move along.

O.city 02-04-2012 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8347922)
Because football matters a lot more to me than basketball. Take a look at the #1 overall recruits in the past decade. You'll find guys like Vince Young, Matt Barkley, and Adrian Peterson.

Those guys did end up at some of the "blue bloods" of CFB and came in with loaded classes.

I think Dorial will help the Tiger program more in the fact that he will show similar recruits that it is ok to go to MIzzou.

IMO thats the reason Alabama, LSU, USC etc. can stay that good. They don't just get the top guy, they get multiple guys that are at the top. I think that is what this get could do for Mizzou.

Of course it could go hte other way in that this is just a one hit wonder. I hope not but you never can tell. In the end these are 18 year old kids making these decisions.

tredadda 02-04-2012 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8347938)
What's your point? You don't think having a Calvin Johnson type WR on our team will come in handy?

Yes I do think that he is a great get, but one of the reasons that Peterson, Barkley, and VY have succeeded like they did was because of the talent around them. They went to programs that were consistently stocked. That is where I want Mizzou to get to, but they are not there yet. On one of those programs, DGB would be even beastly-er.

Simplicity 02-04-2012 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8347947)
7 straight bowl games and the number 1 recruit in the country along with a move to the SEC, and we're garbage?

Not sure how well you are going to compete in the SEC... Prolly won't even make .500...
Still can't understand why you suspect a number 1 recruit will change everything. He hasn't even stepped foot on a College field. Do you guys even add the possibilty of him being a bust?

DJ's left nut 02-04-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8347955)
Yes I do think that he is a great get, but one of the reasons that Peterson, Barkley, and VY have succeeded like they did was because of the talent around them. They went to programs that were consistently stocked. That is where I want Mizzou to get to, but they are not there yet. On one of those programs, DGB would be even beastly-er.

If Franklin develops and Mauk is as advertised, then pairing DGB w/ the skill position players he has around him, especially if Josey comes back healthy, will give him as much chance to succeed as Peterson, Barkley or VY ever had.

If Mizzou fails, it won't be because of their offensive skill position players. It'll end up being because they can't run the football against those big lines in the SEC and they can't stop the run; they could just get 'out-physicaled' down there. He'll have better talent around him than guys like Calvin Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald ever had.

The offensive talent among the skill position players is world-class. They truly can run with the big dogs in that regard; the question is the big uglies in the trenches.

Fritz88 02-04-2012 01:43 PM

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O.city 02-04-2012 01:44 PM

I'm anxious to see how Mizzou's offense translates against he Alabama's and the LSU's of the world who have world class athletes on the defensive side. Not saying it will fail just curious.

I'm also worried that Josey won't ever be himself again. If it was just the ACL i'd say it's pretty pessimistic to say he won't but with the Patella and the MCL added it's gonna be a long road.

It really is all about the trenches for MIzzou, especially the dline. Look how many dlineman come out of the SEC and make it to the NFL. IMO they need to focus on taking some of the great athletes they get and putting them on the defensive side.

Saul Good 02-04-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 8347958)
Not sure how well you are going to compete in the SEC... Prolly won't even make .500...
Still can't understand why you suspect a number 1 recruit will change everything. He hasn't even stepped foot on a College field. Do you guys even add the possibilty of him being a bust?

Change everything? We aren't KU. We aren't trying to build a terrible program up to something great. We're trying to build a very strong program into something even better.

I'd rather compete against the best. If I wanted to root for a team that got wins against crappy competition, I'd pull for Northwest Missouri State.

As for the bust factor, the worst #1 recruit in the last decade went in the third round. I'm not too worried a bout a 6'5 225 WR who runs a 4.4 and holds the record for most career receiving yards in the history of high school football being a bust. He might get hurt, but he's not going to fail due to lack of talent.

8 wins has become the baseline for Mizzou football. We did that after losing underclassmen at DE and QB who went top 10 in the NFL draft and had to start a true Soph at QB.

Don't worry about Mizzou football. We're doing just fine without you.


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