I think Orton's attitude costs him jobs more than his talent level.

If Orton wants to just cash a check, then Dallas will do nicely. If he wants to actually play, there are other teams needing a qb, including the Chiefs.

Yes, Orton is better than Cassel.

And that's not even my main concern. Signing Orton would mean the END of Cassel. And that's far more important than how far Orton would get us is.

Baby steps.

My Brady ****ing Quinn joke looks to be coming true more and more each day.

We couldn't run the ball, and couldn't stop the Ravens for shit. That's why we lost.

Those 2 FGs never happen if he doesn't throw 2 picks.

Fine. He's the devil. Dude's gone anyway, not like it matters.

CASSEL FTL!

Maybe they should have let him get in there sooner, so he had more time to develop a relationship with his receivers.

The Chiefs don't need a QB. Listen to the national media...hell, listen to SCOTT PIOLI.

We have a starting QB.

And one of those picks doesn't happen if Dwayne Bowe catches the perfectly thrown TD pass that went right between two-defenders and hit him in the chest.

It's not worth arguing anymore; the Chiefs are rolling with Cassel and that's all there is to it.

But Orton is a much better quarterback than Matt Cassel.

Haha...glad you like them. I have tons that I've done and never posted. I may make a thread eventually.

You definitely should. These are quality.

It's Admiral Checkdown!

It's unfortunate that he ****ed his hand up in the Bears game - robbed him of a couple of weeks to get better acclimated.

First of all, I don't think signing Orton means the end of Cassel at all. I think Orton would be forced to "compete" and I absolutely think the deck would be stacked against him from the start.

Secondly, if Cassel stinks this year, it's possible they would finally get rid of him. Bringing in Orton only guarantees that it's the BEGINNING of the Orton era and another 2-3 years of futility.

Pioli: Orton will look at some teams he will be able to start for, but we would like to bring him back.

Ortons first stop is one that he would be a clear backup.

Just another sign that we can look forward to another year of the coddling of Cassels balls by Pioli.

Like some here thought (TTC) this is a clear sign that we won't look to upgrade the qb position again this year.

**** you, Scott.

I really hope this Cassel bullshit gets you fired.

It would not make much of a difference. Trust me.

Charles comes back you have a top rushing attack. Defense will be in the top 10 again. Most likely the Chiefs would compete to win the division.

Okay Orton improves your passing game a bit. But we all know he sucks in the redzone and makes bad decisions under pressure. And we saw some of that this year against the faid. Not good. Cant afford to do that, especially against the bigboys in the playoffs. When push comes to shove, he'll flop.

The team would prolly slightly improve but the improvements would minimal and the team would be limited in terms of success. I could see a 10-6 record. But most likely a round loss in the playoffs. I've seen this theme before. We all have and we are sick of it.

*lastly, there is a reason Bronco fans didn't like him. This was it

I'm not suggesting he's the devil.

He's just not the savior either.

In fact, he's pretty much middle of the road. Just like Cassel.

Oh yeah, I had forgotten about him injuring his hand. Ah well. I wish him well, he played hard and was always a good team mate for my Broncos.

You can thank Haley for that.

Yes, it's tinfoil hat shit but the guy JUST got here and they throw him in for a flea flicker, behind our offensive line?

They were TRYING to get him hurt.

Reach for the stars!

Reichsfuhrer Happyfoot.

You think that.... uh..... okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

(backs away slowly)

Thank God... dude sucked the ballsack...

LMAO

You go too far sometimes, my friend.

ROFL
Orton already causing a QB controversy among Cowboy fans
NFLN

Well, there's always the other option - they're ****ing stupid.

Anybody sitting on their couch could see what was going to happen.

So they were either trying to get him hurt, or they are a bunch of really, really dumb mother****ers.

They're a bunch of really, really dumb mother****ers.

Join the Stanzi hope wagon, guys.

God he's a goofy-lookin sob LMAO

Good to see I'm the only idiot who thinks Henne is a good QB. He looked very good for the Dolphins this year.

So good they're letting him walk! LMAO

EXACTLY!

But he is "better" than Cassel. Not saying much there.

Manning "I don't like cold and KC has a great roster, but I'm gonna head to Denver if you don't mind."

Orton "KC has a QB that I can beat out and Dallas doesn't(although with Pioli that maybe false). I think I am going to head to Dallas. Oh by the way Carr is on the plane with me."

This is fun so far.

Ha, even Orton doesn't wanna be our QB. Christ.

Wonder if Orton thinks he could hover like the grim reaper on the sideline ready to take over for the corpse of Romo after he makes one too many of his boneheaded turnovers.

As I many of us said months ago....:mad:
**** YOU PIOLI YOU TOTAL PIECE OF SHIT!

Maybe we're just sticking with Cassel because he's the only dipshit willing to play for us. And Palko.

At this point, that's a valid theory. Manning and Orton obviously don't wanna be here.

If I was Orton, it would be a slap in the face to be told you had to "compete" with Cassel.

No shit! Dude comes in cold. Hardly even knows his teammates, much less the playbook, and is the only QB in the league that beat the Packers during the regular season.

If there was going to be a QB competition in KC this year, it should have been bringing in someone to compete with Orton.

I have no idea why he is visiting Dallas. Thats a backup role, more than KC.

As are several high school QB's. Cassel is a complete waste of skin.

Our best players are coming back and this next season is starting look worse than our last.

Because he want's to be a Shit kicker. Explains the cowboy hats and country bars.

I'm still thinking he ends up in KC.

there is not enough rep

Funny how many were trying to push all this shit off on Haley. With him gone I guess players are just flocking to KC

After riding the pine so Palko could play why would he have any love for KC?...

Wow. :clap:

****.

Why would he want go to Dallas?

I dont care where that shit bag goes, just take his sorry ass elsewhere and take Cassel with him...

He is ****ing garbage...

I don't agree with you there. Orton isn't a terrible QB. He's our Joe Flacco. Not that that's anything to get excited about. Signing Orton will at least keep me interested in the Chiefs, even though I know our ceiling is probably a borderline playoff team at best.

But I will say this in his defense. While he's been rough in the red zone, he's also had some of the worst red zone running games I've ever seen. KC was embarrassingly bad running in the red zone. And the Broncos behind Buckhalter and Moreno were also horrendous.

There's something to be said for plugging Orton into this offense, signing Tolbert or/and Hillis, and playing great defense. Just trying to see any kind of a bright side here.

eres muy estupido

Ah the true fans quest for mediocrity. The fear of wanting to build a NFL franchise is strong with this one.

orton and flacco have nothing in common, as anyone whose actually watched the nfl would know....

Orton, like Flacco, will be a guy who can take your team to the first or second round of the playoffs behind an incredibly talented team and turn your team into a huge underdog for that game. I never said they play the same style of game. Just that the end result is going to be exactly the same.

If we had a running game he takes us to the playoffs last year. You build the line and add a short yardage back and there is no better option.

Lumping him in with Cassel is ****ing ridiculous. He isn't elite but he can be solid. There are no franchise QBs to be found.

Who can we get this year that is better? No one.

Matt Flynn is the only guy with the upside to be franchise. But that is an extremely expensive risk to take. I think he has a lot more mediocrity downside than he does upside.

Because if things turned bad for Romo, he would actually have a chance to start. If he was in KC, the only way he would get a chance to start is if #7 went down with an injury.........

Anyone think the reason we havne't signed him is that Pioli knows if he signs the guy to compete with Cassel, Romeo starts Orton and the golden boy can't ahve that?

He does not have a chance of beating out #7 in 'open competion' for the QB spot.

They are sooooo similar. I do think Orton has the better arm by far, but they both can make boneheaded plays. I guess I like Orton just for the are strength. Still, I keep asking myself why I care if he's back or not.

The price is too high for Flynn and though I like him he's not proven. Orton isn't going to get big money. He's a good stop gap for this year. Better than ****ing Cassel.

Because he is better than #7, not great thus far, but better than #7....

Orton just like Cassel isn't a long term or short term solution to the qb position. Neither are a stop gap. What ever stop gap means.
You will never know success rehashing someone else's trash.

Yeah shitting on one hand and pissing in the other. Sounds like a great solution.

Tony Romo is prone to breakage, so I'd imagine Orton knows he wouldn't spend the entire season there with a baseball cap on. Hell, are there many #2 QBs in the league who didn't play significant time last year?

2nd snap from center, Orton drops back and sees a blitzer coming off the backside edge. He turns, steps right into the blitzer and delivers a completion.

He took the hit to make the completion.

THIS alone makes me rather have him than Cassel.

I don't recall Cassel ever doing that ... he plays like a pussy.

Given the opportunity with what KC is doing, are you really going to tell me that the Chiefs are not committed to #7? You misread my quote....

Being committed to Cassel is just as stupid as signing orton. Its like wanting to.fall into a.flaming bucket of aids because you thinks its cool.

random.

Pioli is a Pats player hoarder
you can only remove a little at a time & easy him clean
Cassel is next

Exactly the same here. I'll be relegated to watching the Donks play instead but I can always be rootin' against them for my weekly football fix.

I agree that if we got a full season of Orton, we'd see some of the same stuff that drives us crazy about Cassel.

It's like the ball rolls downhill and these stories become more and more grandiose. Look at how people think Trent Green wasn't that good now. Cassel once played about 10 days after an appendectomy. Toughness is not his problem. It's everything else.

Are you that daft? My original quote was referring to why another poster was missing Orton over #7. Neither are a good option for a respectable franchise. But, in this case, with the Chiefs commited to #7, and a laughing stock in the NFL, I merely agreed that Orton was the better option between the two. Spend some time reading the thread before you jump in dumbass...

I do not feel either of the two forementioned QB's are franchise quality. Get over it.

Orton is exactly like Cassle. Except that he reads defenses better, has a better long ball, more accurate and quicker on the release. Other than that they are both the same.

Orton can give your WRs some numbers they can be happy with
& live game practice for a rookie

LMAO

Wait, because of rerun, I want to clarify I agree with your post....I am sure YOU read into my lmao but just want to make sure......:p:p