Who knows, but how would they even monitor that if there were such a rule?

That doesn't even make sense.

I see the Chiefs fans have found there "Ron Paul" if you will. A 5th round pick with no flaws.

I was simply pointing out most of those 3rd stringers and backups Stanzi was playing against didn't get their playbooks until the begining of camp some even joined camp late.

I really don't know on that nj. But for some reason it didn't appear to have happened... because many players did not get a playbook until the whole ordeal was over, so I assume there must have been something some sort of penalty involved in that sort of thing happening. And I don't recall if many rookies were allowed at the player controlled workouts or not. If so, you would have thought they would have had some sort of access to a playbook.

I think playbooks are handed in at the end of the season.

BTW I see post like "all the draft experts loved Stanzi before the draft". That's not exactly true either.


http://ten.247sports.com/Article/Iow...in-draft-19226

BTW I see post like "all the draft experts loved Stanzi before the draft". That's not exactly true either.


http://ten.247sports.com/Article/Iow...in-draft-19226

The playbook excuse is being used to say that Stanzi looks like he has something to prove, and that the Chiefs should do a more thorough job investigating what he has than they did last offseason. Especially considering valuable snaps for him are being wasted on Matt Crappel.

I mean, it is what it is. It's an excuse. A good excuse, considering he played for a coach that ran ZERO up-tempo practices that cycled through the playbook until the night before the first preseason game. But still an excuse.

And yes, that extra week matters. The Bucs and Ravens were basically playing with one whole extra week of training camp out of the only 2 or 3 they could have possibly had at that point. And then you face those teams off against the Chiefs? Our offensive line had no ****ing clue what was going on, and it showed. And then you put Stanzi, who was equally unprepared behind those guys who have no ****ing clue what's going on, and presto! Shit sandwich!

Some players and some vets got their playbooks during the small stay.

God! glad we drafted o-line depth.

Quinn & Stanzi have the tools
all they have to do to beat out Cassel is not make alot of mistakes
shame on them if they don't

Oh my god you guys are hilarious.

Who cares when he got his playbook? Who cares when he first arrived in Kansas City, or saw Arrowhead?

"He met Romeo on Tuesday but he didn't shake his hand until Friday, and he didn't meet Lilja AND Haley until 45 minutes AFTER his playbook was autographed by Brodie Croyle's wife! And D Bowe wasn't even there!!"

How about this? He was a rookie quarterback playing behind a god-awful collection of scrub backup tackles. None of this video gives us an accurate vision of who Stanzi is or could be as a quarterback. We will - sadly - just have to wait and see.

Stanzi didn't practice any scrimmages that first week of training camp. If it's just him, that's fine. He should be able to overcome that. Rookies get signed late in training camp then play in the preseason games days later all the time.

In this case, not only did Stanzi not practice any scrimmages, but neither did the offensive line and his backs and receivers for that matter. And most of the guys he had on the field at the time had ZERO NFL experience.

So yes, that week did matter in evaluating some of his mistakes in those videos.

But like you said, it's a new season with a new coach who actually possesses a modicum of common sense. Stanzi's had a year of practices and he knows his teammates. Last year's tape can't tell us anything about how he'll do in the future other than we at least have seen examples where he played pretty damn well. He showed great feet, poise, felt the rush, and was able to deliver some pretty sexy well-timed strikes.

Can he "trick" safeties? Can we bring in a wiley vet to show him the ropes? /the CP Cliche group

It has been reported that Stanzi was told before the season he was not going to play during the regular season. I think the two things go hand-in-hand. You saw the same thing with Mallett. Not sure if Mallett was told anything like Stanzi was, but both guys showed promise in the preseason. I just think both organizations did not want to rush them into anything. Hell, look at what happened to Palmer against the Chiefs when he had limited access to Oaklands playbook.

No, I totally get that. It's just the arguing over when he received his playbook is just silly. The guy was clearly not prepared, and his offensive line kept us from accurately assessing his potential.

There's no point in arguing whether he should have been as prepared as Andy Dalton or Cam Newton. At least those dudes played behind starting OL.

I'm in no way ready to write off Stanzi, because I'd like to see what happens when Albert, Winston, and the other starters are blocking for him and he throws to Bowe and Baldwin, not terrence freaking copper.

That won't happen this preseason.

I'm sort of hoping it happens during the regular season. :thumb:

More like I said my opinion which was something you didn't like and you cry about it. Boo hoo.

Couldn't hurt to try....Better than what we have...For the right price, why not?

so right cause coaches don't know shit compared to ... /the CP Cliche group

You shut your whore mouth

I don't know much about Cody Slate....what's the story on him?

Everyone of us that have argued with dumbasses like you have all wanted to draft O-Lineman over the last several years.

But the idea that you need the best O-Line to win is stupid, and that has been proven again and agian through the years by teams like the Pack and the Steelers, not to mention the Giants just this last SB.

We don't need a ****ing #11 overall guard to build a good O-Line.

We need to build a good O-Line to give whoever is our QB the best opportunity, but the fact remains, your argument is the argument of a ****ing idiot.

Go dip a catbrush in Sandy Alomar piss and **** yourself with it.

Yes, I know this was a game where he made one of if not THE biggest blunder of his college football career, BUT on the flippity-flip, GOD DAMN he made a nice throw (and other nice throws) at the 1:30 mark.

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Ban this muther bumper

Mmmmkkkk.... I'm assuming you weren't as impressed as I by the throw or didn't like the decision making at the end or you were coiled up and waiting for the perfect opportunity to show your cunning wit by referring to someone as a "muther bumper" or you don't like old threads being bumped....? This muther stumper has me stumped...

A college kid ****ed up time management?

He'll never be a great QB. If you haven't learned time management in the 4th quarter by the time you're in middle school, you can't be an NFL QB.

I honestly didn't post that video to knock Stanzi. I am a Stanzi fan. I understand how it appears that I posted with those intentions, but swear I just randomly viewed the clip and that throw at the 1:30 mark caught my eye. That was a bomb.

Yeah, I know. It's mostly directed at all the haters, specifically the ones from BossChief's "Ricky Stanzi in the 2nd round" thread. They ripped into the Ricky hard for that mistake. It's pretty much all they have to tee off on the guy.

Oh, and HES A 5TH ROUNDER OH NOES! That too.

He is the quarterback this team has been looking for for a very long time.

"The Chosen One!"

He has the ability to flash great presence in the pocket. No question.

I remember reading that thread about a year or so after it had been posted. Boss had been wishing for the Chiefs to draft Stanzi long before it actually happened and there were mega-haters in that thread...some who have warmed up to Stanzi a bit since.

Hell, I was one of them. I was guilty of basing my projection of Stanzi into the NFL from his sophomore year, where he won a bunch of games but made bone-headed mistakes. Then I saw statistics from his senior season. Then I saw the steady growth and giant steps he took to become a very mature QB. I watched college film from his junior and senior seasons, and I changed my mind about the guy. It ended up being a complete 180 that I took.