yep, i'm not even buying NFL Ticket (havent since 2010), no Jerseys or anything Chiefs related till we have a chance to win and that means a QB)

Anti-Cassel, yes.ROFL

That sig is incredibly lame, FYI.

Nothing to fear about arrowhead.

I love the ticket too much to give it up. Any NFL game at any time? Can't beat it. Don't want to watch Lambs and Cowboy games every week and I still want to see the team play every week.

^ This. For me it is either this or all Broncos all the time.

You are dead right, but because this place is so extreme its not good enough for our bad QB to be ranked 22, he has to be 32 or else we are pissed.

I think somebody on here got into an argument saying he was like the 35th best QB in the NFL. LMAO

I havent done it yet, I have has Sunday Ticket since time began.... BUT with the joke of a Coach Crennel and Cassel... Its gonna be hard pressed to get me to give a shit...

I will probably end up buying it then bitching about those two asshats all year...

it's supposed to be lame till we get a QB. ROFL

i'll change the text once that happens.

I think I'd take all QBs behind him with the exception of Tebow.

Crennel > Haley

It's just dumb to rank him ahead of guys who have accomplished more.

not a Tebow fan here either but i'd take him over Matt.
Cassel cant lead a team or pass.
Tebow cant pass but he's a damn good leader.

Well that doesn't say much about Crennel. It is not hard to be better than Haley.

Crennel certainly wasn't my 1st choice for HC. But why do think he's a joke?

And don't mention Cleveland because Belichick was HC there in the 90s and went on to be successful.

What difference does it make?

You can argue about specific position, but the one fact is those guys are all bad. A few could receive the benefit of the doubt based on inexperience. Not Castle.

He's a shitty QB.

Dogshit > Crennel > Haley


So your point?

hey TK, i changed the text on my sig to make it more fitting till Castle leaves.
http://i46.tinypic.com/20uz4wo.png

How about Herm Edwards :D

Anyone have the vid of Cassel's segement?

Now that is a Coach that the fanbase can get behind...

Did the team play hard for Crennel? Did the team come out unprepared in any of the games that Crennel coached?

or Gunther
http://www.tiricosuave.com/images/gu...ghamfinger.jpg

Please answer my question.

Hmm. I'd go Crenn > dogshit > el > Haley.

We see that every time a coach gets canned mid season. Hard to say its an indication of how they will perform long term.

Hes part of the good ol boy system... He is rehashed and recycled. Yeah I know,beat your dick on the monitor about Crennel, Browns and Belichek... :rolleyes: I really dont care...

He along with Cassel are two of the weak links in this team... Just like Haley was the last 2 years.

Cassel hasnt proved anything during his time in NE as the QB and Crennel didnt prove anything in Cleveland...

But yet he should be. Would you rather we have the debate about the statement that he made that he was an elite QB?

They played hard for Haley last year also... BFD...

And he kept play Abortion instead of playing Stanzi when it was clear we had nothing to play for... Seriously? Kyle Orton? ROFL that dude couldnt score in a free whore house...

I don't give a shit about Cassel. I asked about Crennel. I have no idea how he'll do this season.

You still haven't given a valid reason why he's a joke. Belichick was successful after Cleveland, why can't Crennel?

Matt Cassel > Philip Rivers, then?

San Diego has the same homefield advantage as KC?

:shake:

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If you've had it the last 3 years with Haley why change now?

Not really.

You are probably right. **** I'm depressed.

It's a horrible way to measure QB awesomeness. assume I can use this same rating system with every QB?

Mark Sanchez > Tom Brady and Payton Manning.

Makes sense.

Sure it is. It's gochiefs.

But that doesn't preclude me pointing that chiefspants missed the point.

Cassel really isn't as bad as people here act like he is.

I don't mean that to defend the guy, because he's not a good QB and I was against bringing him in anyway. That said he's really more 'mediocre' than 'god awful'.

The fact that some here actually believe that Palko was better is a great example. There has never been a QB in the NFL worse than what I saw from Palko.

I'd have Tebow over Cassell.
And I didn't like Tebow as my QB.

I actually think this is the most common point of view. I just think people are having too much fun with the Cassel sucks thing.

you can thank Scott Pioli for wasting 4 years of this franchises life on the '22nd best' QB in the league...

22nd best = Franchise QB to Pioli

Every QB on that list is as good or better than Cassel. Some are just based on potential, Ponder, Gabbert, Flynn. I've definitely seen more out of Sanchez, Fitzpatrick etc than Cassel. Don't throw stats at me either. He's not ever good against good teams in big games.

I'm trying to think of the franchise QB we could've gotten over the past four years.

Pioli has done a good job. If you want to get mad at him for something, get mad at him for hiring Haley.

This list is bullshit, Cassell should be in the top ten or twelve.

ROFL At least you are consistent in your trolling.

no, I'll get mad at him for hand picking a piece of shit QB, thanks...but you can give him a pass

Can you think of the awesome QB we missed out on over the last four years?

Dead serious

Don't feed the troll

That's part of your schtick as well.

Peyton Manning. Its all tied in.

Where we drafted nobody. He needed to take a chance and move up. I don't think we had a chance at Luck or RGIII this year, but he didn't even take a flyer on someone like Freeman. He's used Cassel as his security blanket that entire time.

Mark Sanchez.

The team's cupboard was bare. Sanchez was a reach, but he had a far higher positional value than Jackson. Because he's, oh I don't know... A ****ING QUARTERBACK. And let's not act like Jackson was considered a sure thing, either. He had a lot of growing up to do as a rookie if he was going to become a premier 5-technique.

It was inexcusable for us to trade for Cassel and not draft Sanchez.

I'll throw Andy Dalton in there as well even though I was and still am a huge fan of the Jon Baldwin pick.

There's also Peyton Manning.

Oh, and we really shouldn't leave Kyle Orton out of the equation, either. We had a chance to keep him over Cassel this year and we balked. Not much of an upgrade, but he's an upgrade nonetheless.

and even besides the Jackson over Sanchez

we have been in position to take plenty of flyers or late round picks with that "boom or bust" potential- Dalton, Ryan Mallet, etc.

It doesnt matter if they suck, it's the principle to at least try and draft a young QB with some sort of upside or grade. Which the Chiefs have avoided completely.

[QUOTE=SNR;8688981]Mark Sanchez.

The team's cupboard was bare. Sanchez was a reach, but he had a far higher positional value than Jackson. Because he's, oh I don't know... A ****ING QUARTERBACK. And let's not act like Jackson was considered a sure thing, either. He had a lot of growing up to do as a rookie if he was going to become a premier 5-technique.

It was inexcusable for us to trade for Cassel and not draft Sanchez.[/QUOTE]

You could be right, but I'm betting Sanchez wouldn't be anything special at this point, in fact I'm sure he wouldn't have played in 2 conference championship games.
This team has had not a consistent offensive scheme or good enough staff to coach a franchise QB. They all would have failed.

I'm not sure Orton was an option. He bolted for Dallas. I'm not sure he really wants to start anywhere. He didnt even try.

Not the point. You can't look at it like this. You still have to try.

Yep.

And not only that, but they keep handing him the position every season with NO competition.

I think they did want Manning. Manning had his 5 or so teams he wanted to go to and the Chiefs weren't one of them.

Sanchez? Same boat as Cassel.

nope, people on here are just blinded by hate and can't argue with facts

Please, list the facts.

The facts:

Cassel sucks

"After doing tape study on Matt Cassel, ESPN's Ron Jaworski described him as a "function of the team around him" and a quarterback who struggles to make throws outside the numbers due to "limited arm strength."
"Cassel is at his best in a managed offense that features run personnel, run formations, and the play-action pass game," Jaws said. "Play action primarily gives the quarterback either-or defined reads. Cassel is very good in that scenario. ... Cassel throws the ball better to the inside -- digs, hooks, and throws like that -- than he does to the outside. That's the way it is for quarterbacks with limited arm strength. You give Matt Cassel a solid run game, a good offensive line, room in the pocket to deliver the football comfortably, and he can be a very efficient NFL starter. That's what he is. He's a function of the team around him, and he needs those pieces in place working effectively."

It is truly amazing, being sincere here, how CP can have the exact same argument 5,000 times in 5,000 different threads.

The exact same argument, over and over gain.

This was the first year they handed him the job undeservedly IMO. I was disappointed he's back, but other than Manning there was no one I felt could make a difference at QB for us.

Nailed it.

These QBs don't win SBs.

I've always respected Jaws opinion a great deal. But the last broadcast he did when Cassel started he slobbered all over him and said Matt Cassel is a quality, legitimate starting NFL QB. And then we continued to watch him not make reads, dump the ball down, throw picks, over/under throw recievers all over the place.
I think Jaws was really just try to build up the telecast.

I agree with Josh Freeman. Id' rather have him, but even then he's just middle of the pack.

27 and 7 and a pro bowl is a good place to start.

These QBs shouldn't be starters in this league.

What were his stats last year? Or the year prior to his "pro bowl" year?

Hate to break it to you but there are only so many Mannings and Bradys to go around. Not every team gets a super star qb

ROFL I knew that was coming.

True, but there are only so many elite QBs to go around.

If you could only have 1 condiment for the rest of your life
What would it be?
Castle Sucks for 10,000,000 time doesn't sound so bad

First year and Mike Solari.

Third different OC, multiple key injuries, insane HC

Yes, but it doesn't mean we should be content with the shit stain we have.

Chan Gailey, my bad.

Well, he's not that bad.