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Dayze 07-19-2012 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 8754204)
I had some interest in a monster but thought I wouldn't fit on that either. Have you been on one?
Yeah. Ridden the old 695 the newer 696 and 1100. They are really roomy. Not uncomfortable at all. Eps the new models. Been a while since I rode the 695s but I don't recall it being cramped. Plus that twin torque :D

BIG_DADDY 07-19-2012 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8754184)
NADA Value on a 2006 R1 average is $6,600 with a low retail of $5,000. You don't get shit for aftermarket parts when you sell them with the bike which is why most people part them out and put the factory stuff back on.

NADA Value on my bike is $3900 average with a low of $2900. Now take into account that you can hardly find a F4i cheaper than what I'm asking and tell me I'm asking too much.
Tons of after market goodies may not be worth anything on the book but to the buyer it should mean something. For some reason everyone seems to pay a big premium out here for the r-1s.

BIG_DADDY 07-19-2012 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8754207)
Yeah. Ridden the old 695 the newer 696 and 1100. They are really roomy. Not uncomfortable at all. Eps the new models. Been a while since I rode the 695s but I don't recall it being cramped. Plus that twin torque :D
I even messed around with the thought of a Buell

jd1020 07-19-2012 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 8754210)
I even messed around with the thought of a Buell
I was looking at the xb12ss when Buell was still around and then HD terminated their company. That was that.

Dayze 07-19-2012 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 8754208)
Tons of after market goodies may not be worth anything on the book but to the buyer it should mean something. For some reason everyone seems to pay a big premium out here for the r-1s.
I kept my akrapovic and put on the stock exhaust when I sold the RR. Sold the can on Craigslist. People sometimes think a 500 can will add 1k to the bike etc. more times than not the after market doesn't add much value at all. Unless youre talking about a bike that has a full titanium system etc.

But windscreens, pegs, sliders. Meh

qabbaan 07-19-2012 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 8754204)
I had some interest in a monster but thought I wouldn't fit on that either. Have you been on one?
i owned a speed triple - I am 6'3". comfortable, compares favorably in performance to a monster, affordable insurance.

Dayze 07-19-2012 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8754212)
I was looking at the xb12ss when Buell was still around and then HD terminated their company. That was that.
I love the xb9 fibe bolts. I'm hopeful Eric Buell can hook up with another power plant company or an enire company. Good thing is if you were to buy a Buell there would be no shortage of tech/mechanical support via Harley dealerships

Dayze 07-19-2012 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 8754217)
i owned a speed triple - I am 6'3". comfortable, compares favorably in performance to a monster, affordable insurance.
Yup. Monsters, speed triples, aprilia shiver etc. all super comfortable and a blast to ride.

jd1020 07-19-2012 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8754222)
I love the xb9 fibe bolts. I'm hopeful Eric Buell can hook up with another power plant company or an enire company. Good thing is if you were to buy a Buell there would be no shortage of tech/mechanical support via Harley dealerships
Me too, because his $40k new crotch rocket just aint gonna cut it.

Dayze 07-19-2012 08:11 PM
No doubt. I think Harley really boned him over. Buells had a huge following.

Dayze 07-19-2012 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 8754204)
I had some interest in a monster but thought I wouldn't fit on that either. Have you been on one?
If you end up considering a Ducati as you narrow down your list I would stick to the 2v motors. 695, 696, 796, 1100, S2R (both 800 and 1000cc)

Otherwise you get into the 4v desmos and when maintence rolls around for valve clearance checks/adjustments, it'll be less work if you do it yourself, and
A lot less $$ if you have it done. The 2v motors will make plenty of power for street riding plenty. The 4v is what they put in the hyper sports - 998,999, 748, 749, S4R etc. very powerful but more work and $.

BIG_DADDY 07-19-2012 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8754226)
No doubt. I think Harley really boned him over. Buells had a huge following.
Funny, I was talking to a guy who was in upper management for HD and he said they lost money every year with the whole Buell delio.

qabbaan 07-19-2012 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8754223)
Yup. Monsters, speed triples, aprilia shiver etc. all super comfortable and a blast to ride.
The amount of power on tap on that thing was crazy. You can smash the throttle on an entrance ramp and feel like you're on a supersport but they have power all over the powerband. I don't know how you beat them for real world power and overall value.

Dayze 07-19-2012 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 8754258)
Funny, I was talking to a guy who was in upper management for HD and he said they lost money every year with the whole Buell delio.
Yeah, they probably did. It was a little weird to sell both classes at a dealer like Harley. I can't remember the arrangement with Buell and HD, but I think Eric had some restrictions in what he could do etc. something like that...can't remember

Dayze 07-19-2012 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 8754264)
The amount of power on tap on that thing was crazy. You can smash the throttle on an entrance ramp and feel like you're on a supersport but they have power all over the powerband. I don't know how you beat them for real world power and overall value.
Yep. Gimme tons of low end torque and a nice smooth power curve and I'll take it everyday of the week. :D

You ever rode a Tuono? I rode the Shiver at Renos, and I came back. The owner was like "what did you think. Hey, you should ride the Tuono". His daughter pulled it around ....I could hear that baby start up. Had Akro cans...sounded amazing.

That thing would be a ticket machine in terms of speeding and how easy it is to lift the front wheel from about anywhere in the power band. :drool:

qabbaan 07-19-2012 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8754267)
Yeah, they probably did. It was a little weird to sell both classes at a dealer like Harley. I can't remember the arrangement with Buell and HD, but I think Eric had some restrictions in what he could do etc. something like that...can't remember
From what I read, he had to use 45 degree twins and they had to be air cooled, to fit with the brand

Dayze 07-19-2012 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 8754272)
From what I read, he had to use 45 degree twins and they had to be air cooled, to fit with the brand
Yup. Something like that. Sounds right.

Dayze 07-19-2012 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 8754175)
First of all those that NADA stuff is crap and secondly it's damaged. The value is what anyone else can go out and the same product for at it's cheapest price within 200 miles of you. Not picking on you but Frankly I think most people way over value their bikes, that's why they get all pissed when someone offers them so much less.

I got two bikes in my sights and both are 2006. One is an r-1 raven with lots of after market goodies with 13k miles on it and it looks brand new. The guy really needs to sell it and is in the middle of nowhere so it takes a could hours to get to him. If I get this it will be somewhere between $5,500 and 6k. YOUr NADA value on that bad boy has to be at least $7,500. The other bike is a 2006 ZX-14 with 10k on it. The add ons on this are:

Power Commander III With Brocks Performance Map Upgrade- $350
Brocks Performance Titanium CT Megaphone Full System- $1895
.
FYI...that thing is going to be super loud :). Like...really loud.

BIG_DADDY 07-19-2012 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8754290)
FYI...that thing is going to be super loud :). Like...really loud.
This is it. Think I can get it for 5

BIG_DADDY 07-19-2012 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8754290)
FYI...that thing is going to be super loud :). Like...really loud.
I like loud a lot. Works on stupid drivers who aren't paying attension.

BIG_DADDY 07-19-2012 08:45 PM
This is another interesting bike.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/mcy/3139849248.html

notorious 07-19-2012 10:59 PM
How much is insurance on bikes?

jd1020 07-19-2012 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8754569)
How much is insurance on bikes?
Too ****ing much, at least for crotch rockets.

Dayze 07-20-2012 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 8754304)
I like loud a lot. Works on stupid drivers who aren't paying attension.
Ah ok. I thought it was another style cone. I rode with a few guys after a bike night and a dude had a zx10 with an exhaust that looked like an ice cream cone upside down. Mother of god was it loud

Dayze 07-20-2012 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8754569)
How much is insurance on bikes?
A lot depends on your age. Driving history as well (obviously) and how they categorize the bike. The insurance company my wife works for won't insure sport bikes above 600cc, and even that won't do so unless they're over 25.

I think full coverage on mine (state farm) was about 15/mo...I was 33 when i had it. Around here they factor in the non riding months,or so I hear.

However, the kid I sold mine to was in on his third bike in two yrs, had crashed the other two and had multiple pricey tickets amd he told me his insurance for full coverage on the bike was 225/mo. Shit you not

jd1020 07-20-2012 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8754641)
I think full coverage on mine (state farm) was about 15/mo...I was 33 when i has it. Around here they factor in the non riding months,or so I hear.
15/mo for full coverage on what?

I'm 25, not even a parking ticket on my driving record, riding course discount and the lowest I've been quoted isn't even 15/mo for bare minimum street legal.

Dayze 07-20-2012 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8754644)
15/mo for full coverage on what?

I'm 25, not even a parking ticket on my driving record, riding course discount and the lowest I've been quoted isn't even 15/mo for bare minimum street legal.
My 600rr. Though, had two cars and two life insurance policies so maybe a discount. I havnt had a ticket or accident since 1994, so who know how much consideration they took on that aspect

BIG_DADDY 07-20-2012 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8754639)
Ah ok. I thought it was another style cone. I rode with a few guys after a bike night and a dude had a zx10 with an exhaust that looked like an ice cream cone upside down. Mother of god was it loud
I had a seca 750 many moons ago. I almost died on that thing more than all my other bikes combined. It was practically silent. Loud works for me.

notorious 07-20-2012 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8754641)
However, the kid I sold mine to was in on his third bike in two yrs, had crashed the other two and had multiple pricey tickets amd he told me his insurance for full coverage on the bike was 225/mo. Shit you not
:eek:


The kid must be a suicidal, rich, spoiled, idiotic bastard.

Dayze 07-20-2012 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8755080)
:eek:


The kid must be a suicidal, rich, spoiled, idiotic bastard.
He was one of these morons who rode with a 'stunt crew' out of Atchison. Apparently he's not very good if he's crashed 2 lol.
Sort of made me sad - I took exceptional care of the bike cosmetically and mechanically; was a great bike; my baby. Knowing this fool would probably crash it irritated me.

BIG_DADDY 07-20-2012 09:26 AM
Another thing that cracks me up are the guys that put stickers all over their bike. What are you like friggen 6?

notorious 07-20-2012 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8755129)
He was one of these morons who rode with a 'stunt crew' out of Atchison. Apparently he's not very good if he's crashed 2 lol.
Sort of made me sad - I took exceptional care of the bike cosmetically and mechanically; was a great bike; my baby. Knowing this fool would probably crash it irritated me.
A good friend of mine purchased a brand new crotch rocket 15 years ago, and was showing off to us in front of his house. He was far from experienced, and when he tapped the front brake it did a slow motion front roll over. He put his hands out, broke both wrists, road rashed the hell out of his face, and completely destroyed the fairings on the bike.

He managed to do this going no more than 10 mph. LMAO


We were all in tears from laughter while trying to help him.

BIG_DADDY 07-20-2012 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8755143)
A good friend of mine purchased a brand new crotch rocket 15 years ago, and was showing off to us in front of his house. He was far from experienced, and when he tapped the front brake it did a slow motion front roll over. He put his hands out, broke both wrists, road rashed the hell out of his face, and completely destroyed the fairings on the bike.

He managed to do this going no more than 10 mph. LMAO


We were all in tears from laughter while trying to help him.
Nobody should ever get on a street bike that hasn't spent some serious time in the dirt. JMO

I would have laughed my ass off too.

Dayze 07-20-2012 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8755143)
A good friend of mine purchased a brand new crotch rocket 15 years ago, and was showing off to us in front of his house. He was far from experienced, and when he tapped the front brake it did a slow motion front roll over. He put his hands out, broke both wrists, road rashed the hell out of his face, and completely destroyed the fairings on the bike.

He managed to do this going no more than 10 mph. LMAO


We were all in tears from laughter while trying to help him.
awesome LMAO

Dayze 07-20-2012 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 8755158)
Nobody should ever get on a street bike that hasn't spent some serious time in the dirt. JMO

I would have laughed my ass off too.
agree.

or, like in Europoe where you have to go through various levels of licensure working up incrementally

notorious 07-20-2012 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8755310)
agree.

or, like in Europoe where you have to go through various levels of licensure working up incrementally
I wish they did that will all drivers here in the US.

Radar Chief 07-20-2012 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 8755310)
agree.

or, like in Europoe where you have to go through various levels of licensure working up incrementally
Agreed. Just because someone has the money doesn’t mean they should go throwing a leg over a ZX14 or Hayabusa without any riding experience.

Dayze 07-20-2012 10:16 AM
no doubt. amazed that a 18 yr old kid can buy a 600CC+ sportbike, with no experience.

Ace Gunner 08-08-2012 01:54 PM
This is a good buy;

http://images.craigslist.org/5Ic5Kb5...5e7c9b1980.jpg

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/mcy/3187446944.html

$3750 and a handfull of horses

jd1020 08-08-2012 02:10 PM
I like the 929 but it was only made for 2 years. I'd stay away. Parts are gonna be an issue down the road.

BIG_DADDY 10-28-2012 03:47 PM
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Finally pulled the trigger. As I was saying earlier if you wait long enough you will find what you want at a good price instead of the tard rate most people post with their bike. 2001 ZX-11 with 6,900 miles for $2,800. I really wanted a ZX14 or a VMAX but at this price I couldn't walk away. Bike is in perfect running condition.

BIG_DADDY 10-29-2012 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 9058560)
Finally pulled the trigger. As I was saying earlier if you wait long enough you will find what you want at a good price instead of the tard rate most people post with their bike. 2001 ZX-11 with 6,900 miles for $2,800. I really wanted a ZX14 or a VMAX but at this price I couldn't walk away. Bike is in perfect running condition.
Just for the record the guy didn't flinch at a test drive either.


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