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Ebolapox 07-14-2012 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8740091)
No. You have a single passrusher, the Chiefs had the third fewest sacks in the entire league last year.

Brandon Flowers is a #1 corner, not a shutdown corner. Ray Crocket was a solid #1 corner but he wasn't a shutdown corner.

And Albert is a solid LT. He won't shutout an elite pass rusher one on one.

except for dwight freeney, apparently.

whoman69 07-14-2012 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8740091)
No. You have a single passrusher, the Chiefs had the third fewest sacks in the entire league last year.

Brandon Flowers is a #1 corner, not a shutdown corner. Ray Crocket was a solid #1 corner but he wasn't a shutdown corner.

And Albert is a solid LT. He won't shutout an elite pass rusher one on one.

Houston had 5.5 sacks in the last half of the season. The Chiefs were the team with the least pass plays against in the league. The team finished 6th in INTs, 12th in points against, and 11th in yards against. You want to cherry pick a stat and call our defense poor? Start telling the whole story.

Broncos 24th in points, 20th in yards against, 19th in first downs against, 28th in INTs.

RealSNR 07-14-2012 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by h5n1 (Post 8740225)
except for dwight freeney, apparently.

Funny how that works.

You know who Clady struggles against? Dwight Freeney.

Oh, and Tamba Hali, too.

Albert >>> Clady

RealSNR 07-14-2012 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8739928)
the Chiefs took a surprisingly big step backward in 2011


Do people watch any football before they write this crap? 1 Block FG away from winning the West and that's a big step backwards?

2010's team wasn't losing to ****ing Buffalo and Miami at home, I can tell you that much right now.

And they probably would have gotten another win. The Steelers game.

Yes, last year was a big step backwards. It was a weaker team. Period.

BossChief 07-14-2012 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8739981)
That's why I said "potential."

We weren't a contender in 2010. 2011 was a chance to take that next step, and we failed horribly.

With our schedule this year we have another chance to prove we belong.

IMO, We didn't "fail horribly".

CoMoChief 07-14-2012 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8739928)
the Chiefs took a surprisingly big step backward in 2011


Do people watch any football before they write this crap? 1 Block FG away from winning the West and that's a big step backwards?

This team was NOT a true playoff team, even if we would have beaten OAK. We played like shit the majority of the season. We were lucky that the rest of the division was dogshit as well.

Hammock Parties 07-14-2012 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8740653)
IMO, We didn't "fail horribly".

We didn't beat ANYONE worth a shit, other than the Packers, and KYLE ORTON IS NOT WALKING THROUGH THAT DOOR.

We failed UTTERLY to move up into the next bracket of competition.

BossChief 07-14-2012 08:19 PM

I think what the team did last year was impressive, everything factored in.

We were devasted in multiple position groups and found a way to be a game out from another playoff appearance.

Let's say we had Kyle Orton as last years game one starter and didn't lose Charles, Berry and Moeaki.

That's what we could have had this upcoming year and it would give all of us more hope.

I think this team is gonna win a lot of games IF WE CAN GET AVERAGE QUARTERBACK PLAY.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-15-2012 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8740469)
Houston had 5.5 sacks in the last half of the season. The Chiefs were the team with the least pass plays against in the league. The team finished 6th in INTs, 12th in points against, and 11th in yards against. You want to cherry pick a stat and call our defense poor? Start telling the whole story.

Broncos 24th in points, 20th in yards against, 19th in first downs against, 28th in INTs.

Denver's D is shit even with Vondum and a close to pasture Chump. Chiefs should be a unit that finishes between 5 and 10. Willis will be wondering where all that running room is without that extra fullback behind center, while the Chiefs ground game rapes.

BoneKrusher 07-15-2012 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8740873)
I think what the team did last year was impressive, everything factored in.

We were devasted in multiple position groups and found a way to be a game out from another playoff appearance.

Let's say we had Kyle Orton as last years game one starter and didn't lose Charles, Berry and Moeaki.

That's what we could have had this upcoming year and it would give all of us more hope.

I think this team is gonna win a lot of games IF WE CAN GET AVERAGE QUARTERBACK PLAY.

but that word seems so Big right now.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-15-2012 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8741826)
but that word seems so Big right now.

Yes it does. The team is ready to contend, but pressure makes our QB ready for Depends.

BoneKrusher 07-15-2012 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8741827)
Yes it does. The team is ready to contend, but pressure makes our QB ready for Depends.

yep, every Defensive Coordinator in the league knows with a little pressure MC will shit his pants and the game is over.

stonedstooge 07-15-2012 08:17 AM

Limit the number of 3 and outs and this team will have a chance for success. If Casshole and the offense cannot do that, this team will fail just like last year

BoneKrusher 07-15-2012 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 8741830)
Limit the number of 3 and outs and this team will have a chance for success. If Casshole and the offense cannot do that, this team will fail just like last year

with this rushing attack, it might work.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-15-2012 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8741828)
yep, every Defensive Coordinator in the league knows with a little pressure MC will shit his pants and the game is over.

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