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Quesadilla Joe 07-29-2012 03:39 AM

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• Sept. 9: Atlanta, noon (Fox)

• Sept. 16: at Buffalo, noon (CBS)

• Sept. 23: at New Orleans, noon (CBS)

• Sept. 30: San Diego, noon (CBS)

• Oct. 7: Baltimore, noon (CBS)

• Oct. 14: at Tampa Bay, noon (CBS)

• Oct. 21: open
There is a pretty strong chance that the Chiefs start the season 2-4, 1-5, or 0-6. Thankfully for you guys, the schedule does get a whole lot easier the second half of the year when you only have 5 games against playoff caliber teams in the last 10 weeks.

Ming the Merciless 07-29-2012 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8775430)
There is a pretty strong chance that the Chiefs start the season 2-4, 1-5, or 0-6. Thankfully for you guys, the schedule does get a whole lot easier the second half of the year when you only have 5 games against playoff caliber teams in the last 10 weeks.

Meh, while we are only 1 point underdogs to Atl, I'm not going to come unglued if we lose that one. There's no way in hell we are going 1-5 or 0-6 though...Not sure what your definition of 'pretty strong odds' are but you have to be wrong....'Pretty strong chance' to me means over 50%, something like 60%.....

ATL - W
@Buf - W
@No - L
SD - W
BAL - L*
@TB -L*

I could see us being 3-3 and in the thick of it very easily..... A couple of lucky breaks and we could even win @TB or at home against BAL...(the *'s)...


On the flip side, were you aware that the over/under on how long manning's neck holds out is like 8.5 games?

BigMeatballDave 07-29-2012 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8775430)
There is a pretty strong chance that the Chiefs start the season 2-4, 1-5, or 0-6. Thankfully for you guys, the schedule does get a whole lot easier the second half of the year when you only have 5 games against playoff caliber teams in the last 10 weeks.

And Denver could very easily start 1-4.

Aries Walker 07-29-2012 03:56 AM

10-6 and I think I'm being conservative. I'm tempted to say 11-5.

Quesadilla Joe 07-29-2012 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 8775434)
Meh, while we are only 1 point underdogs to Atl, I'm not going to come unglued if we lose that one. There's no way in hell we are going 1-5 or 0-6 though...Not sure what your definition of 'pretty strong odds' are but you have to be wrong....'Pretty strong chance' to me means over 50%, something like 60%.....

ATL - W
@Buf - W
@No - L
SD - W
BAL - L*
@TB -L*

I could see us being 3-3 and in the thick of it very easily..... A couple of lucky breaks and we could even win @TB or at home against BAL...(the *'s)...


On the flip side, were you aware that the over/under on how long manning's neck holds out is like 8.5 games?

3-3 is probably the best case scenario to me. None of those games will be cakewalks. Buffalo is probably the easiest game you have but that is their home opener and they signed Mario Williams. Gonna be a tough team to beat under those circumstances.

Quesadilla Joe 07-29-2012 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8775435)
And Denver could very easily start 1-4.

NE is the only game that I am going to mark down as a loss. Denver is going to be a very tough team to prepare for early in the year because there is no film for teams to look at to see what we like to do. Not just offensively with Manning, but defensively as well because we have Jack Del Rio now.


Three of Denver's first four games are at home as well.

Ming the Merciless 07-29-2012 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8775438)
3-3 is probably the best case scenario to me.

Obviously, since you didn't even put it as a possibility in your original post....

3-3 is reasonable

0-6 is a crazy outlier

2-4 is pretty reasonable

4-2 is as reasonable as 2-4

6-0 is just as crazy as 0-6....

See a pattern?

Rausch 07-29-2012 07:01 AM

• Sept. 9: Atlanta, noon (Fox) - W

• Sept. 16: at Buffalo, noon (CBS) - L

• Sept. 23: at New Orleans, noon (CBS) - W

• Sept. 30: San Diego, noon (CBS) - W

• Oct. 7: Baltimore, noon (CBS) - L

• Oct. 14: at Tampa Bay, noon (CBS) - W

• Oct. 21: open

• Oct. 28: Oakland, 3:05 p.m. (CBS) -L

• Nov. 1: at San Diego, 7:20 p.m. (NFL Network) -L

• Nov. 12: at Pittsburgh, 7:30 p.m. (ESPN) - W

• Nov. 18: Cincinnati, noon (CBS) - W

• Nov. 25: Denver, noon (CBS) - W

• Dec. 2: Carolina, noon (Fox) -L

• Dec. 9: at Cleveland, noon (CBS) -W

• Dec. 16: at Oakland, 3:05 p.m. (CBS) -W

• Dec. 23: Indianapolis, noon (CBS) -W

• Dec. 30: at Denver, 3:15 p.m. (CBS -L

Hammock Parties 07-29-2012 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8775457)
• Sept. 23: at New Orleans, noon (CBS) - W

• Nov. 12: at Pittsburgh, 7:30 p.m. (ESPN) - W

You are a crazy person?

Aries Walker 07-29-2012 07:23 AM

Clarification:

Before the break, we lose to Baltimore and New Orleans, and maybe lose one of the others.
After the break, we lose to Pittsburgh, and the away games to San Diego and Denver.
I figure we'll upset one of these teams, but then drop one game that we should win elsewhere in the season.
10-6, maybe 11-5.

Three7s 07-29-2012 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8775438)
3-3 is probably the best case scenario to me. None of those games will be cakewalks. Buffalo is probably the easiest game you have but that is their home opener and they signed Mario Williams. Gonna be a tough team to beat under those circumstances.

Not to mention, I don't think the Chiefs have ever beaten Buffalo in Buffalo.

Coogs 07-29-2012 09:12 AM

This is so hard to predict right now. Here is why.

If we just look at the 6 division games and use a hypothetical 14-3 score somewhat early in the game. If we happen to be on the front end of that score, all three of the teams would appear to have the fire power to rally behind thier QB throwing the ball. Rivers, Manning, and Palmer have all shown they are never out of a game no matter what the score.

Now if we happen to be on the back end of that score, we are on life support because the opponents can pin their ears back and get after Cassel. He has never proven good when under pressure.

When we step out of our division, the same case can be made in many of the games we are going to be playing.

It is going to be imperative we get ahead, as I don't see us as a come from behind team... going into training camp.

Copping out bigtime... anywhere from 6-10 to 10-6

siberian khatru 07-29-2012 09:14 AM

10-6

milkman 07-29-2012 09:17 AM

I really am not a fan of the manner in which Clathan delivers the message, but he's right.

This team will be playing against far superior QBs than the ones they faced last year, and we still have Matt Cassel.

Those QBs will make plays to win games.

Matt Cassel won't.

BigRedChief 07-29-2012 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8775570)
I really am not a fan of the manner in which Clathan delivers the message, but he's right.

This team will be playing against far superior QBs than the ones they faced last year, and we still have Matt Cassel.

Those QBs will make plays to win games.

Matt Cassel won't.

I don't think you will find anyone who is thinking clearly that will disagree with this assessment. But, lets hope that a healthy Charles, Moeaki and Berry will make us a better team than last years team that will offset at least some of the upgrade in QB of the other teams. . And maybe Poe will finally be that presense in the middle of the line problem we have been desperatly trying to resolve for years.

A lot of if's, thats for damn sure.

Chris Meck 07-29-2012 10:48 AM

10-6.

and by midseason, it's Stanzi.:thumb:

milkman 07-29-2012 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8775707)
I don't think you will find anyone who is thinking clearly that will disagree with this assessment. But, lets hope that a healthy Charles, Moeaki and Berry will make us a better team than last years team that will offset at least some of the upgrade in QB of the other teams. . And maybe Poe will finally be that presense in the middle of the line problem we have been desperatly trying to resolve for years.

A lot of if's, thats for damn sure.

I think this team will be much better than last season which is why I believe we will be in a lot of close games.

But that's the point.

When it comes time to make plays, the opponents this season have the QB to make plays.

We'll lose a lot of close games because we don't.

I fully expect Matt Cassel to surpass his 2010 numbers because of teh talent around him, and protecting him.

But when the games are close, I fully expect to lose those games, because of Matt Cassel.

Hammock Parties 07-29-2012 10:53 AM

Like I revealed a few days ago:

Matt Cassel has never won a close game against a playoff team.

mlyonsd 07-29-2012 11:00 AM

9-7.

I'd have been a lot more optimistic if we would have kept Orton.

Ming the Merciless 07-29-2012 11:05 AM

No I think we all get what the morons are saying:

If we don't win 10 games, it is Matt Cassel's fault, but if we do - he gets no credit....

We shouldn't win 10 games because our schedule is tough, but if we do then he will get zero credit.

Our schedule is brutal but even though we SHOULDNT win 10 games, if we win less, it will be his fault....If we win more it will be in spite of him....

That about cover it?

Hammock Parties 07-29-2012 11:16 AM

If we win 10 games, Matt Cassel will probably deserve a lot of credit.

Happy?

Slainte 07-29-2012 11:48 AM

8-8. No playoffs.

Chiefs Pantalones 07-29-2012 06:28 PM

http://arrowheadaddict.com/2012/07/2...edium=facebook

Ming the Merciless 07-29-2012 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8775778)
If we win 10 games, Matt Cassel will probably deserve a lot of credit.

Happy?

Yes daddy

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_q8cUeK7Uij...Happy+Baby.JPG

WilliamTheIrish 07-29-2012 06:36 PM

6-10
or
5-11

Expect the worst, hope for the best.

007 07-29-2012 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8775438)
3-3 is probably the best case scenario to me. None of those games will be cakewalks. Buffalo is probably the easiest game you have but that is their home opener and they signed Mario Williams. Gonna be a tough team to beat under those circumstances.

I would be thrilled with a 3-3 start. That means we shocked at least one team and beat another in a tight game.

O.city 07-29-2012 09:00 PM

Speaking of the Saints, what will their defense be this year?

MMXcalibur 07-29-2012 09:02 PM

10-6, I 'spose.

Yes, even with Matt Cassel.

MMXcalibur 07-29-2012 09:04 PM

• Sept. 9: Atlanta, noon (Fox) - L

• Sept. 16: at Buffalo, noon (CBS) - W

• Sept. 23: at New Orleans, noon (CBS) - L

• Sept. 30: San Diego, noon (CBS) - W

• Oct. 7: Baltimore, noon (CBS) - L

• Oct. 14: at Tampa Bay, noon (CBS) - W

• Oct. 21: open

• Oct. 28: Oakland, 3:05 p.m. (CBS) - W

• Nov. 1: at San Diego, 7:20 p.m. (NFL Network) - W

• Nov. 12: at Pittsburgh, 7:30 p.m. (ESPN) - L

• Nov. 18: Cincinnati, noon (CBS) - W

• Nov. 25: Denver, noon (CBS) - W

• Dec. 2: Carolina, noon (Fox) - L

• Dec. 9: at Cleveland, noon (CBS) -W

• Dec. 16: at Oakland, 3:05 p.m. (CBS) -W

• Dec. 23: Indianapolis, noon (CBS) -W

• Dec. 30: at Denver, 3:15 p.m. (CBS -L

mcaj22 07-29-2012 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 8776646)

a Buffalo Bills team, that only got better, that blew us out by like 40 points last season.... we are all of a sudden going to magically hold them to 13.

right

stonedstooge 07-29-2012 09:11 PM

A lot riding on those legs in the backfield with one set coming off a major injury. 7-9

Hammock Parties 07-29-2012 09:33 PM

lol @ sweeping SD and OAK.

Homers homing.

Ace Gunner 07-29-2012 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8776848)
Speaking of the Saints, what will their defense be this year?

20th at least

O.city 07-29-2012 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfootballfan (Post 8776928)
20th at least

I dunno, I don't forsee it being better than 20.

O.city 07-29-2012 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8776922)
lol @ sweeping SD and OAK.

Homers homing.

I think there is a chance to sweep Oakland, but I don't think it will ever happen.


Not just for the Chiefs, but it's extremely rare to sweep teams in your division.

Ace Gunner 07-29-2012 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8776933)
I dunno, I don't forsee it being better than 20.

whoops, I was saying that is going to be "at best".

jd1020 07-29-2012 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8773758)
• Sept. 9: Atlanta, noon (Fox)

• Sept. 16: at Buffalo, noon (CBS) W

• Sept. 23: at New Orleans, noon (CBS)

• Sept. 30: San Diego, noon (CBS) W

• Oct. 7: Baltimore, noon (CBS)

• Oct. 14: at Tampa Bay, noon (CBS)

• Oct. 21: open

• Oct. 28: Oakland, 3:05 p.m. (CBS) W

• Nov. 1: at San Diego, 7:20 p.m. (NFL Network)

• Nov. 12: at Pittsburgh, 7:30 p.m. (ESPN)

• Nov. 18: Cincinnati, noon (CBS) W

• Nov. 25: Denver, noon (CBS) W

• Dec. 2: Carolina, noon (Fox) W

• Dec. 9: at Cleveland, noon (CBS) W

• Dec. 16: at Oakland, 3:05 p.m. (CBS) W

• Dec. 23: Indianapolis, noon (CBS) W

• Dec. 30: at Denver, 3:15 p.m. (CBS)

Going with 9-7. Although, I've got a 6 game winning streak in there that I'm not feeling too confident about. I'd have to pick Carolina to blow up that win streak but I'm not sure what they did in the offseason. Their defense was awful.

BigMeatballDave 07-29-2012 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8776938)


Not just for the Chiefs, but it's extremely rare to sweep teams in your division.

Not really. It wasn't long ago we beat Oakland 9 straight.

We straight up OWNED them thru the 90s. They only won twice vs us.

O.city 07-29-2012 09:46 PM

IIRC, the Bills really started hott last year then cooled? I think they played over their heads against us, but they did kick our ass at home so I'm not gonna make excuses.

O.city 07-29-2012 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8776954)
Not really. It wasn't long ago we beat Oakland 9 straight.

We straight up OWNED them thru the 90s. They only won twice vs us.

I know we won 9 straight in Oak, but not overall i don't think.

BigMeatballDave 07-29-2012 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefsfootballfan (Post 8776928)
20th at least

At best

In58men 07-29-2012 09:49 PM

9-7

Chiefs draft Tyler Wilson.

BigMeatballDave 07-29-2012 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8776959)
I know we won 9 straight in Oak, but not overall i don't think.

Nope. 9 straight overall.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiefs%...aiders_rivalry

Ace Gunner 07-29-2012 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8776961)
At best

this

Hammock Parties 07-29-2012 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8776954)
Not really. It wasn't long ago we beat Oakland 9 straight.

We straight up OWNED them thru the 90s. They only won twice vs us.

THIS team isn't sweeping anyone.

O.city 07-29-2012 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8776983)
THIS team isn't sweeping anyone.

Why?

SAUTO 07-29-2012 10:07 PM

Nostradumbass here

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8776983)
THIS team isn't sweeping anyone.

Posted via Mobile Device

Hammock Parties 07-29-2012 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8776989)
Why?

1. The Raiders own us.

2. Philip Rivers

3. Peyton Manning

4. Matt Cassel

O.city 07-29-2012 10:13 PM

So are you of the thought that the Raiders improved this offseason?

Hammock Parties 07-29-2012 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8777006)
So are you of the thought that the Raiders improved this offseason?

Until they lose their defensive line, they are going to own us.

And they are going to have a pretty damn good offense this season.

We can't take advantage of their weakness.

O.city 07-29-2012 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8777014)
Until they lose their defensive line, they are going to own us.

And they are going to have a pretty damn good offense this season.

We can't take advantage of their weakness.

We likely won't see Seymour blowing up Weiggman this year, thats for sure.


I'm not as high on Carson as you are, but I think it's all on McFadden.

Hammock Parties 07-29-2012 10:23 PM

I forgot they are getting him back.

Tough for us.

Carson sucks but he's better than Cassel and can chuck it downfield, and that's really all that matters.

OnTheWarpath15 07-29-2012 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8777006)
So are you of the thought that the Raiders improved this offseason?

I think the offense will be pretty good this year - and if DMC stays healthy, watch the **** out.

Everyone here laughs at Carson Palmer, but all the dude did was throw for nearly 3,000 yards in 9 games, coming into a team cold in the middle of the year.

Defensively, the front 4 is solid, but the back 7 are the weakness.

I'd think they'll be able to score enough to stay in most games.

O.city 07-29-2012 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8777027)
I think the offense will be pretty good this year - and if DMC stays healthy, watch the **** out.

Everyone here laughs at Carson Palmer, but all the dude did was throw for nearly 3,000 yards in 9 games, coming into a team cold in the middle of the year.

Defensively, the front 4 is solid, but the back 7 are the weakness.

I'd think they'll be able to score enough to stay in most games.

Up front on d, they are as good as anyone.


Palmer was good last year. I just wonder about that offensive line.

McFadden just can't seem to stay healthy.

Hammock Parties 07-29-2012 10:30 PM

The question isn't even if the Raiders are good.

It's if they can win one game against us.

Probably. We match up poorly.

BigMeatballDave 07-29-2012 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8776983)
THIS team isn't sweeping anyone.

What is with the ****ing absolutes?

You aren't Mecca.

mcaj22 07-29-2012 10:40 PM

Richard Seymour will at least determine the outcome of one game in their favor. He has the last two years. We can't stop him.

Hammock Parties 07-29-2012 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8777041)
What is with the ****ing absolutes?

You aren't Mecca.

Romeo Crennel seems to have busted the logic circuits in 75 percent of your brains.

It's pretty reasonable to suggest we go .500 in the division. Shit, it's more than reasonable. Kyle Orton isn't walking through that door.

whoman69 07-29-2012 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8777027)
I think the offense will be pretty good this year - and if DMC stays healthy, watch the **** out.

Everyone here laughs at Carson Palmer, but all the dude did was throw for nearly 3,000 yards in 9 games, coming into a team cold in the middle of the year.

Defensively, the front 4 is solid, but the back 7 are the weakness.

I'd think they'll be able to score enough to stay in most games.

A lot of good it did them. Palmer threw the ball over 40 times in four different games all losses. He racked up nearly half his yards in those four games averaging 326 yards per game. He had another game against the Broncos with 332 yards in a loss by 2 touchdowns. They were only 2-2 when he finished with a QB rating over 100. People say he got all his INTs early, but in his last four games he threw 8 picks.

Darren McFadden is a total brokedick as well. He is coming of a lisfranc injury which is no joke. He has hit only 10 starts once in his career, and has rushed for over 700 yards only once as well. He doesn't really have another established back on the team that can share carries with him. If he goes...

Hammock Parties 07-29-2012 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8777054)
A lot of good it did them. Palmer threw the ball over 40 times in four different games all losses. He racked up nearly half his yards in those four games averaging 326 yards per game. He had another game against the Broncos with 332 yards in a loss by 2 touchdowns. They were only 2-2 when he finished with a QB rating over 100. People say he got all his INTs early, but in his last four games he threw 8 picks.

Darren McFadden is a total brokedick as well. He is coming of a lisfranc injury which is no joke. He has hit only 10 starts once in his career, and has rushed for over 700 yards only once as well. He doesn't really have another established back on the team that can share carries with him. If he goes...

At the end of the day they are probably a game worse than us, or a game better.

We aren't going to sweep them, they aren't going to sweep us.

BigMeatballDave 07-29-2012 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8777044)
Richard Seymour will at least determine the outcome of one game in their favor. He has the last two years. We can't stop him.

Wiegmann is gone.

I feel better about Hudson blocking him.

BigMeatballDave 07-29-2012 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8777049)
Romeo Crennel seems to have busted the logic circuits in 75 percent of your brains.

It's pretty reasonable to suggest we go .500 in the division. Shit, it's more than reasonable. Kyle Orton isn't walking through that door.

:rolleyes:

Chiefs Pantalones 07-29-2012 11:12 PM

I don't see how the Raiders win 7 games this year. Max.

mcaj22 07-29-2012 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8777062)
Wiegmann is gone.

I feel better about Hudson blocking him.


well that's nice but Hudson wont block him lol. He will have to help, but I am pretty sure Seymour occupies the LG, whoever that clown is for us.

BIG_DADDY 07-29-2012 11:23 PM

11-5

Chiefs Pantalones 07-30-2012 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8777054)
A lot of good it did them. Palmer threw the ball over 40 times in four different games all losses. He racked up nearly half his yards in those four games averaging 326 yards per game. He had another game against the Broncos with 332 yards in a loss by 2 touchdowns. They were only 2-2 when he finished with a QB rating over 100. People say he got all his INTs early, but in his last four games he threw 8 picks.

Darren McFadden is a total brokedick as well. He is coming of a lisfranc injury which is no joke. He has hit only 10 starts once in his career, and has rushed for over 700 yards only once as well. He doesn't really have another established back on the team that can share carries with him. If he goes...

And you could argue that the best player they've drafted in recent memory is a damn kicker.

Hammock Parties 07-30-2012 06:55 AM

You people, you would think we had actually earned more than one win over the Raiders in the last four years.

2008 - Embarrassed at Arrowhead, comedy of errors in Oakland

2009 - Embarrassed at Arrowhead, earned a legit win over them on the road.

2010 - Embarrassed at Arrowhead, got punked by them in Oakland.

2011 - Embarrassed at Arrowhead, Kyle Boller.

O.city 07-30-2012 06:56 AM

Maybe if our #1 Wr catches two balls, the tables are turned on the Raiders?

Reerun_KC 07-30-2012 07:07 AM

Oakland owns KC at MulletField...

Ace Gunner 07-30-2012 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8777264)
Maybe if our #1 Wr catches two balls, the tables are turned on the Raiders?

http://www.cutegeek.com/wp-content/u...am-300x228.jpg

Chronic 07-30-2012 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8776974)

There isnt one player on either team still playing or coaching

Since 2000 the Chiefs hold a 13-11 win vs loss against Oakland

durtyrute 07-30-2012 07:40 AM

9-7

Chronic 07-30-2012 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8777029)
Up front on d, they are as good as anyone.


Palmer was good last year. I just wonder about that offensive line.

McFadden just can't seem to stay healthy.

That Raiders OL was ranked 5th in the NFL, and they added FA guard Mike Briseil from the Texans who was a big part of Fosters runs and drafted Tony Bergstrom-

Stefen Weisnewski won rookie of the week as an OL, which is pretty hard to do

Both Veldheer and Barnes were ranked 4th in tackle tandems in productivity

Raiders were 4th in sacks allowed as an OL

Whats to wonder about?

lcarus 07-30-2012 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 8775419)
10-6, AFCW champs. There's no excuses, this team is stacked. We just gotta stay healthy.

I'm with you on this

Chiefs Pantalones 07-30-2012 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 8777489)
I'm with you on this

Heads better roll if we don't. No excuses.

TEX 07-30-2012 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 8775419)
10-6, AFCW champs. There's no excuses, this team is stacked. We just gotta stay healthy.

Not at the most important position it isn't. When you get to where the Chiefs are, the QB makes all the difference in the world. It will this year and they will end up 8-8. They have most everything BUT what they really need to be successful.

HemiEd 07-30-2012 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanky 52 (Post 8773780)
I never get these right. I'm going with 9-7 this year. Just good enough to keep Nancy Cassel next year and be out of the running for a QB in the draft.

I went with 9-7 as well. After Cassel starts out 1 and 6, Stanzi goes 8-1.

BigRedChief 07-30-2012 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 8777075)
I don't see how the Raiders win 7 games this year. Max.

My 10 wins include us sweeping the Raiders.

Chief_For_Life58 07-30-2012 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8777599)
I went with 9-7 as well. After Cassel starts out 1 and 6, Stanzi goes 8-1.

ha ha ha

Pasta Little Brioni 07-30-2012 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8778609)
My 10 wins include us sweeping the Raiders.

Atta boy :thumb:


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