well at least you admit it. :hmmm:

Remember, the only reason we are 16 million under the cap this year is because we rolled over 20 million.

We can chose how much we want to rollover each year...meaning they will only spend IF THEY WANT TO.

They will have no problems getting to the salary floor and this supposed "hand shake deal" with Bowe wouldn't really effect it either way.

A lot can change in two offseasons but they don't always equate to two football seasons. Just like two pieces of bread doesn't make two sandwiches.... Wait is Bowe an open faced sandwich? Cause then the math would be correct...

Dude, I have 2 friends (one that used to be very well connected at Iowa before he retired) and one guy I met during an install "that works for the Chiefs" that give me information...I also have a handful of people that give me little tidbits that they clearly say are rumors.

If someone clearly says what they are passing on is "a rumor"...why is it in the least bit "uncool" to say you don't believe it?

If I had posted this as rumor, I wouldn't have any problem with those that chose not to take it to the bank to get it cashed.

I don't care about the discussion of the rumors veracity, but imposing that into a personal attack on the poster is not okay.

so your other friend who is Bowe's brother said this eh?

Thats the way it goes here. You post some "inside" information and try to be nice and share it and then on cue some decide to attack you personally.

To me, something just doesn't add up.

If he has a handshake deal with a guy like Pioli, I can't imagine he would have missed camp.

If Pioli is just franchising him in an attempt to make him "prove himself" to earn a long term deal...him missing camp would obviously be strike one in that attempt.

Especially with a new oc coming in and Bowe being the 4th highest tenured veteran in the lockerroom.

Maybe it is being distorted by the telephone effect: The Chiefs told Bowe last offseason that they wanted two years of proof and if he provided it, they would offer him a four year extension at that time.

Ummm

I didn't post the thread.

Heh, I would think you wouldn't go there, what with all the bleeding your vagina does.
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I'd also like to say that family members of players often distort/misunderstand things that aren't told directly to them.

One example is that a year or so ago, Glenn Dorseys brother was telling people that Dorsey was gonna demand to be traded after last season ended.

And yet, Glenn never missed a practice and by all reports is very happy being a part of this team.

Glenn Dorsey has a brother?

Unless Pioli wanted Baldwin to have what has been a fantastic opportunity to get familiar with Cassel and better integrate himself in the offense.

Looks like he doesn't

You got some 'splaining to do BossChief

Would you want to play football in 110 degree weather? It makes perfect since, just an excuse for him not to go.

I don't go to the ChiefsCoalition anymore, but if one of you does you can find the thread BossKiller posted about it to clarify the details.

Maybe it was a brother in law or something...

No way this is true.

Why would Pioli offer a handshake deal with Bowe and then say "FEEL FREE TO **** UP TEAM CHEMISTRY BY MISSING CAMP?"

Gotta agree with this.

Pioli would want Bowe to set an example.... being Bowe is the 4th highest tenured Chief.

He wouldn't.

This makes zero sense for either side for several reasons.

How will this **** up team chemistry? Cassel and Bowe have an obvious chemistry. If anything, it helps team chemistry by forcing Cassel to develop chemistry with other receivers. Cassel has developed chemistry with Baldwin, proof by camp reports, and McCluster, proof from reports and preseason game one. Still nothing with Breaston it seems.

Who cares? Bowe FINALLY signed his contract and, if were lucky, Pioli will lock up Albert long term during the season. This will give us the option to use the franchise tag on Bowe again or possibly Dorsey if a contract is drawn up for Bowe before then.

Holy shit...
I laughed my nuts off at this.
ROFL

Ummm. Yeah, I kind of knew that because my post was meant for the OP dumbass. :D

Cassel and Bowe had chemistry last year...it just never translated to the games because by the time Baldwin was healed up, Cassel got hurt.

Baldwin actually stayed at Cassels house most of last offseason.

No shit of all places on earth.

;)

I'm going to make a handshake deal for next year, and risk injury instead of signing a long term deal now.

2+2=82

No offense, but this rumor makes no sense.

Ask me... When was the last time Pioli did something that made sense?

He got a hell of a deal on the JC contract.

Yeah... Once I posted that the first thing came to mind was JC.

Millionaires don't do business with handshakes and promises.

Yea, I don't know how Pioli would agree to let Bowe miss the first 3 weeks of TC when they are installing a new offense. :rolleyes:

You have to look at it from Pioli's point of view.

For instance, hiring Crennel made ABSOLUTE sense...from Pioli's point of view...because otherwise some asshole head coach with good ideas was going to come in here and dump Cassel.

And along those same lines, not signing any competition for Cassel, despite the fact Orton had fallen in our laps, made a lot of sense. Because why would you want to undermine Cassel and potentially ruin his confidence.

So what Pioli does makes sense...from a certain point of view.

This.

I know this man. There is a difference between some chemistry and the type of chemistry Cassel has with Bowe. Looks TO him every play, sometimes throws it to him even if he's not open. He trusts Bowe immensely. It's always been Bowe, and then everybody else.

Cassel has shown that with Baldwin and even McCluster now. He was forced to work with them consistently. Now we KNOW Cassel is willing to look for Baldwin specifically, and trust him enough to throw it up there and let him make a play. Also seems to trust McCluster to bail him out.

Cassel now has 3 guys he's comfortable with and trusts to make a play for ball.

You are pretty crystal clear as well.

This team is full of examples.

no offense, but that makes no sense

why franchise him and lose Carr for nothing?

This.



Just sign him to that extra year, franchise Carr, case closed.

You think he EVER planned on keeping Carr at that price tag? You think Pioli wants to invest that much in corners?

Really?

I'm just saying a handshake agreement in a billion dollar industry doesn't sound to legit.



Just me.

Yeah, but neither does paying gobs of cash to two cb's.

where did i say ANYTHING about keeping Carr?


I said don't lose Carr and get nothing


sign Bowe
Tag Carr

squeeze a draft pick out of Dallas, Carr leaves anyway.


what possible reason would they have for not just signing Bowe to the contract instead of waiting? Even if they did some weird 1 year extension.

They have the salary cap room

Not just you, I think anyone with a brain would agree.

What would the CB tag be this year money wise?

Hell, maybe the rumor got a bit misconstrued down the grapevine. Maybe they actually couldn't come to an agreement before the deadline, forcing Bowe to play under the tag whether he wanted to or not, and Pioli and Bowe's agent kept at it and agreed to a contract in principle, ready to ink when the Chiefs season ends...

Hindsight is 50/50

Good point. Not how I read the post.

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Ahhh, you were lurking that one huh? Classic!

Ok Gang.

Nah, I've seen several references to that in the past month and did a search.

And yes, Classic!

I would think that if they planned enough to handshake/tag Bowe per the rumor then a plan to tag/trade Carr is not a big stretch.

You can always pull the tag if a team like Dallas doesn't step up.

I just get the feeling that they weren't interested in retaining Carr. Pioli drafted Jalil Brown in the 4th last year and quickly snatched up Routt.

I could be way off but it just didn't seem like there was any mutual interest between the Chiefs and Carr.

i just figured Pioli would want to squeeze a draft pick out of Carr leaving.

This has been a fun week. We shall call it "False rumor" week. Were we spend the whole week trying to think of as many false/made up stories as we can and post them on Chiefsplanet.

LMAO

That's the odd thing and I agree: There must have been a "Game of Chess" going on because it appears that Pioli picked the wrong guy to franchise.

It's complete speculation as to what's really gone on this year. But maybe some day, Michael Holley will write a book about the Chiefs that includes passages from the 2012 Chiefs Season.

That's probably the only way we'll ever know the truth.

What happened to hindsight 50/50? He was a total douche.

"What... 50/50... 20/20? Same thing."

He won't come around unless the Chiefs have a losing record, which isn't likely to happen this year.

Adios, Chica.

10 mil according to Grimes' tender. If something like this was true you really would have expected a tag and trade with Carr. So many factors at play though, as mentioned.

I heard tonight from a really close friend at the bar whose dentists cousin is Aaron Rodgers that he only wants to play for the chiefs now and that he'll just sit and wait to be traded to us or not play at all

This is new information. Thanks!

Favre's taking his Wranglers to Independence

I'm not questioning Pioli. It would be a great deal from his side. No way Bowe or his agent would go for it.

FYP

holy shit! a JimNasium sighting? Did Pioli anticipate this? If so I say; :clap:

Unless he hates St. Joe. This was all a conspiracy to get Baldwin into the game.

He was getting his escort servicing BEFORE the season....smart.

Don't play with my emotions, Mic.

Trust me, I wouldn't.
Hell I JUST bought a Bowe jersey yesterday!