CHIEFS WORKOUT 4 PLAYERS
September 4, 2012 - Bob Gretz | No Comments
The Chiefs have been sifting through the pile of released players around the league and had at least four of them in for workouts. They were:
LB Bobby Carpenter – 6-2, 249 pounds, 7-year veteran from Ohio State who was released by New England.
CB Chris Carr – 5-10, 181 pounds, 8-year veteran from Boise State who was released by Minnesota.
CB Dominique Franks – 6-0, 197 pounds, 3-year veteran from Oklahoma who was released by Atlanta.
LB Bryan Kehl – 6-2, 244 pounds, 5-year veteran from Brigham Young who was released by Washington.

Jamaal Charles wasn't the starter in 2010.

THE DEPTH CHART TELLS ALL.

Go move to LA so you can watch your favorite team

Your not giving Baldwin a chance for his second year. Only his second year I think he will come through just fine & make this season count and take a step up. He may not dominate until his third year but he will start making impressions for an up comming WR learning his craft.

Dude still needs some adjustment time. He's going to be fine. Romeo and Daboll didn't do him any favors by putting him in an offense led by reeruns and assholes at QB who can't find open receivers more than 10 yards down the field.

I am giving him a chance.

I'm just saying that so far he's dog shit, and him being the #3 WR is not a good thing.

ROFL now you're making excuses? Just stop. I should pull up your posts constantly :whackit: this dude.

That makes no sense.

I don't flip flop.

Anyone who didn't change their opinion of Herm Edwards by the first month of 2008 was a complete moron living in a dream world.

I've had very clear, distinct moments when I turned on our last two head coaches and haven't reversed.

Herm - first month of 2008
Pioli/Haley - middle of 2010

It makes a lot of sense. Baldwin is dog shit. I'm not giving up on him, but he needs to start doing non dog shit things pretty quickly here or, welp.

I guess the Balla ass GM posts were what?

So is he dog shit or isn't he?

:facepalm:

How many ****ing times do I have to explain this?

You can give someone credit for doing something. It doesn't mean you suddenly are homertastically in love with them.

Right now he's dog shit until proven otherwise.

Just like Tyson Jackson was in 2009.

I'm not buying that Baldwin is placed as #3WR on charts. He will get more playing time than Breaston & they both will be getting snaps. Breaston has the experience over Baldwin would be the only thing that gives him the edge if he does get more playing time. I'm not going take the depth chart at face value.

As the season goes it will get changed & I'm looking at Powe to move up the ranks for NT spot. A good rotatation & keeping them fresh will help out.

The fact that you give a single post of credit, and drone on for days about the negative stuff is what tends to bother people I'd imagine.

Who's making excuses? I said I'm not worried.

It's understandable that you think depth charts are like scientific laws. Your team sucks. On other teams the depth charts don't mean shit.

Did you know that Donald Driver was the WR2 on the Green Bay Packers last year and not Jordy Nelson?

Look around.

Everyone here is droning on about the negative stuff after our shit preseason.

I spent the entire offseason doing it, and for good reason.

So far, LOOKS LIKE OLD GEAUXCHIEFS WAS A ****ING PROPHET.

Yeah we all know you spent the whole preseason doing it.


Made this site such a joy.

EVERYONE was ****ing doing it after St. Louis and Seattle.

WAKE UP.

I'm insane and the rest of you are joining me in the asylum this year.

IT'S YOU AND ME LORRAINE. IT'S MEANT TO BE.

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It was the preseason. I don't give two shits about it. Said the same thing after the Cardinals game.

I did know that yes. I thought he still had something left in him, he does not. You're right though. He has no one on the team to get him the ball. Yet Bowe has been beasting for a good part of his career as a Chief with next to nothing around him. It's cool though.

Never really understood why you are here Setsuna? Are you a Chiefs fan?

lol

ohhhhhh shit

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What?

Dex is clearly the #4 WR, so why you janglin, bo?

How has he been dog shit so far? As for the flip-flopping, when people that have been here plus people that just got here(me) all come to the same conclusion, perhaps you should consider it as a possibility. Like I said the other night, its really your poor way of arguing more so than your actual points that make you look bad.

He has 1 good game.

Pretty simple.

Just lettings out giggles over Baldwin not starting.
But I'd imagine he'd be #3 for this game, no? Bowe, Breaston, and Dex in the slot. Meh, whatever.

What do you think about Houston?

A talented player on an upswing.

What makes you think that about Houston? He abused shitty teams last year, with shitty qb's.

Le sigh. No. I'm here. Accept it.

I'll accept it, but I'm not gonna enjoy it.

You don't think there were other circumstances affecting those other games? Like who gets him the ball? You always are on the extremes. Young players have ups and downs. Doesn't mean on the up they are sick or on the down are dog shit. How many games has he started? We don't know nearly enough about him to say what he is yet. Dog shit is just another need to be extreme and dramatic. Neither of us know what he will be.

Houston has been dogshit save for 3 games.

So basically Baldwin lost his spot so Dex could be on the field. Dex wins the slot, so they put Breaston at #2 because Baldwin isn't reliable.

I didn't realize this before, but the Chiefs have zero DL that can rush the passer (effectively), and only one LB that can cover (effectively). Weird.

I guess Pioli only wants very specific things out of each position.

Houston has shown to be extremely improved in coverage and Poe is a pass rusher.


Go back to sucking off the multi dimensional Demaryius Thomas.

Dex has been the slot guy all offseason even with Bowe's return. He'll be a factor in helping move the chains. Clay's a maroon.

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Want me to post 10 or 15 more?

The slot receiver is the 3rd receiver on the team.

Cool.

Brown is nowhere near Carrs level yet anyway. He looks lost out there and I never recall seeing that in Carr.

ARE YOU ****ING KIDDING ME????

Sorry, just getting to this post now.

I know what you are trying to do here. You are attempting to draw a parallel between Cassel (who only beats shitty teams) and Houston (who had some good games against shitty teams), because I have piledrived Cassel this offseason for that trademark.

The difference is that Houston is a rookie, and Houston was performing at an elite level the second half of last season.

Cassel has never performed at an elite level.

Also, Justin Houston had good games against Pittsburgh and Green Bay. And he clearly has a lot of talent. Unlike Cassel.

Are we done here?

And unless you think Jonathan Baldwin (our #3) is going to be the #4, Dexter is currently the #4.

Pioli is a buffoon, but even he is not dumb enough to keep Baldwin sidelined in favor of Dexter.

O spot trolls for fun. I am sure that is one of the occasions.

Bowe was not working full time with the #1 offense against Seattle. Clearly he was not ready for that his first game back. That is why Dex got on the field as the #3.

Dex is the #4.

There is no reason for him to be the #3.

He is not better than Breaston or Baldwin.

Logic, use it.

It will be highly amusing if Baldwin actually loses his spot to a non-playmaker like Dexter McCluster, just so Cassel can throw 7-yard passes on third and 10. LMAO

I mean, GOD FORBID you attempt to develop this super talented beast.

I will laugh my ****ing ass off all year if Baldwin is benched in favor of Dex.

That is not a recipe for any kind of success ever.

It would literally be Pioli cutting off his nose to spite his face.

The second half of last season he played like a top 10 OLB, according to PFF ratings.

For the season he had a 6.7 rating and 7+ ratings in run defense and pass rush.

I know you are trolling....but you are doing a poor job of it when the facts so completely Hiroshima your argument.

I agree that he could improve and be a good player.

At this point in time he is not and we should recognize that.

Look at the teams he had these great games against.


The Bears, with a shitty awful oline. Packers, with a shitty awful oline and no run game. Steelers, with a banged up oline and no run game. The Broncos, with Tim Tebow, enough said.

What did he do against he Raiders in a big game last year? Don't remember his name being called.

You aren't fooling anybody....let the homer out.

So Houston was Elite against shitty teams?

He had a good PFF rating in that game, too.

I know you are trolling, and doing so poorly, but Justin Houston had a good rookie season and played very well in the second half of the season.

He needs to pick it up from there, but he's shown us a lot more than Jon Baldween. It's not up for debate.

In this era of specialization and situational substitutions, are people here really pretending that the depth chart is proof of anything other than (maybe) who plays the first snap of the game?

He had good games against good teams.

wait O.City you're just being sarcastic right/screwing around, right? There is no way you can have those Houston arguments with the way you defend and stand in the corner of Jalil Brown lol

TrololO city

Houston had good games against teams with awful rts and rbs

Imagine if he played the NFC West :eek:

OK.

Do you have a point?

According to PFF, Houston was literally the worst player on the Chiefs in coverage last year.

Yes, worse than Belcher.

He's a 270 pound bitch wrecking juggernaut OLB.

He's not meant to be in coverage that much.

Yes, I know. I just find it interesting that there are no DL that can rush the passer, and only one LB that can cover. There are only 3 guys that could be described as versatile on the Chiefs' D: DJ, Flowers and Berry.

cory greenwood can cover!

keep doubting cory ****ing greenwood!

and Travis Daniels is also versatile! Went from being our best depth cover CB to apparently 2nd string FS, so that means if Lewis is out he will start at FS? lol

I'm just glad the Chiefs are bringing back the wishbone and the wing t offense.


Twins right 41 trap and 48 reverse ftw!

I think he faired pretty well in coverage for a rookie who dropped into coverage more than any other OLB in the league...

and away we go ...

Houston spent the bulk majority of his time playing the run and dropping in coverage early last year. He did a damn good job vs. the run also. When he was finally allowed to rush the passer on a consistent basis, he delivered.

Seriously, what?

Out of the 61 people who played at 3-4 OLB last season, Houston ranked right at #61 in coverage. Also, Clark Haggans, Calvin Pace, Anthony Spencer, and Ahmad Brooks all were in coverage more than Houston. They are all 3-4 OLBs. There are probably more, I stopped looking after about 30 seconds.

The Falcons have lost their first road game every year going back to 2006.

They're due.

Ya, but they never opened the season versus the Chiefs:D

Honestly, if the Chiefs can't play defense, they won't win an offensive shootout.

Hey look, i can twist stats, too!

Matt Ryan's road record against the AFC: 7-3

Losses: PIT, NE, Houston

Chiefs: Not those teams

Dont you get tired of acting soooo hopeless all the time?

How are you gonna take it if/when we win and guys like Dexter McCluster play well?

Dex is not doing shit against Dunta Robinson.

That is a horrible matchup for him.

I bet Dunta sticks to Dex's non-WR buttocks like glue and reads Cassel like a book and takes it back to the house.

How can this be?

Dunta Robinson is gonna be covering our #4 receiver?

Dude fell the **** off, and FAST.

Dunta covers the slot when Atlanta goes nickel. You are not gonna find a guy playing a better nickel than Dunta Robinson in this league.

If Dex is on the field I would imagine Dunta would be assigned to him.

They are not gonna put Dunta on Baldwin.

I would not be surprised if one of Atlanta's corners goes Delta O'Neal on Cassel this weekend.

Dunta Robinson is starting