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L.A. Chieffan 09-12-2012 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8904255)
So you aren't aware of why he was out of football for 2 years? Reading is your friend.

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/08/28...ylink=misearch

The time off didn't exactly help.

ShowtimeSBMVP 09-12-2012 12:04 PM

Pick up Donald Jones this week for your Fantasy team gonna make Reeves look like a clown

-King- 09-12-2012 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8904255)
So you aren't aware of why he was out of football for 2 years? Reading is your friend.

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/08/28...ylink=misearch

:clap:

Marcellus 09-12-2012 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TrebMaxx (Post 8904261)
Oh, I agree. I just would like to know. Selfish curiosity as a fan of this team.

I think you know pretty much what they know, he has a heel bruise that won't heal. (Pun intended).

htismaqe 09-12-2012 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 8904198)
Before you laugh too loud, consider what would be guaranteed and what wouldn't...

Exactly. There's always ways to get around the cap.

Black Bob 09-12-2012 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8904024)
Haha

You guys can be truly clueless sometimes.

Who, exactly, were they supposed to sign that was gonna be an upgrade?

When you lose Flowers, Brown and Menzie all to early injuries in camp...it's gonna be a tough start to the year.

Haha

Maybe they will ask Dexter McCluster to play corner, too.

haha

haha

HAHA

HAHA

MUHAHAHAHAHAHA






















j/k :evil:

Flowers gets hurt alot. They probably should have planned better. That said, Brown is alright imo. Hopefully, he will be able to go. He hasn't started a real game yet so don't give me the preseason BS...

Hindsight is 20/20 but, I think Pioli resigned the lesser corner of the two. Carr has never missed a game. I like Flowers but he can't stay healthy.

I would also like to point out that there aren't any corners out there and Reeves might be better than what's left. The Falcons signed the Colt's nickelback from last year off the street. Now that's really bad...

Marcellus 09-12-2012 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8904263)
The time off didn't exactly help.

Not sure who said it did.

T-post Tom 09-12-2012 12:07 PM

Will Stevie Johnson's family be able to recognize him after Berry & Co go all Tony Soprano on him? It's not revenge they're after, it's a Reckoning.

Sorter 09-12-2012 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8904257)
The statement was they are worthless. The statement is completely reeruned.

Missed that. Definitely not worthless, but to me it isn't money well spent. Good players against the run though.

BossChief 09-12-2012 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8904262)
Our DE's should be able to do something in terms of rushing the passer. But in case you weren't aware, that's not their job in KC's scheme.

Ty Warren and Richard Seymour got plenty of sacks in the same scheme.

The problem with both Jackson and Dorsey is that they aren't on the field in passing situations because their skill set isn't adequate enough for them to be.

Marcellus 09-12-2012 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 8904282)
Missed that. Definitely not worthless, but to me it isn't money well spent. Good players against the run though.

Overpaid for sure.

This place gone full idiot though. Every single thing is a dumpster fire.

ChiTown 09-12-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8904286)
Ty Warren and Richard Seymour got plenty of sacks in the same scheme.

The problem with both Jackson and Dorsey is that they aren't on the field in passing situations because their skill set isn't adequate enough for them to be.

Yep. This has less to do with scheme and more to do with skill set.

SAUTO 09-12-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8903993)
Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71

#Chiefs limited in practice: Brandon Flowers and Jalil Brown.



Bills gonna go up and down the field on Reeves, Glad this fail of a GM didn't go add any players this week.

god damn you are a whiny ****ing bitch.

does limited mean out now?

Pasta Little Brioni 09-12-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8904295)
Overpaid for sure.

This place gone full idiot though. Every single thing is a dumpster fire.

Yep, it's gone full Claytard.

ChiTown 09-12-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8904295)
Overpaid for sure.

This place gone full idiot though. Every single thing is a dumpster fire.

You've been here long enough. This place is ALWAYS a dumpster fire when things look bad.

BossChief 09-12-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 8904305)
god damn you are a whiny ****ing bitch.

does limited mean out now?

And to think...you, me and O.City used to be nice guys almost all the time.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-12-2012 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8904318)
And to think...you, me and O.City used to be nice guys almost all the time.

It's caused Jason and I to lose our mind and post about midgets all the time

Black Bob 09-12-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8904286)
Ty Warren and Richard Seymour got plenty of sacks in the same scheme.

The problem with both Jackson and Dorsey is that they aren't on the field in passing situations because their skill set isn't adequate enough for them to be.

Maybe Seymour and Warren got most of their sacks because they played beside two of the greatest 3-4 NTs of all time in Vince Wilfork and Ted Washington?

Seymour played DT in the 3-4 in his first two years in the NFL. He got 3 sacks as a rookie and 5 sacks in his second year.

He never recorded eight sacks in a season until he had a really good NT. He got eight once with Washington and once with Wilfork.

Warren never had more than 3.5 sacks until they got Wilfork.

The problem isn't Dorsey and Jackson imo. The problem has been the personnel at NT. Dorsey and Jackson aren't going to get a bunch (5+) of sacks unless we have a dominant NT. Having a dominant NT is the key to this defense.

L.A. Chieffan 09-12-2012 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8904277)
Not sure who said it did.

So he could have taken the time off to become a Buddhist ****ing monk, it doesn't mean he sucks any less.

SAUTO 09-12-2012 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8904322)
It's caused Jason and I to lose our mind and post about midgets all the time

about those midgets...

Micjones 09-12-2012 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8904035)
Travis Daniels should be back at corner for Flowers.
Berry at FS.
Elam at SS.

Egg zactly.

Black Bob 09-12-2012 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8904447)
Egg zactly.

I think the reason they aren't playing Daniels at CB is because Lewis is out. I mean Elam is good enough and there probably isn't much difference between him and Daniels at FS. The thing is that a big part of their defense will rely on that 3-3-5 three safety formation that allows Berry to either line up at CB or as a hybrid LB. We use this formation quite a bit against good TEs and it's the way we have shut down Gates since Romeo came to KC. When Berry went out last year, it severly hampered RACs ability to use this formation. Berry has talked about it a little bit in an interview.

That's why this year he moved Daniels, one of his most reliable players, to safety this year. He wants to be able to run this formation no matter whcih three safeties he has.

In the end, I think the only way we see Daniels at CB is if Lewis comes back soon.

In my opinion.

ForeverChiefs58 09-12-2012 12:56 PM

No worked out 4 LB's Tues including Ernie Sims.

Tampa Bay hosted 7 defensive players including Everette Brown.

Houston worked out 7 DL including Remi Ayodele

Detroit worked out 9 DB's including ex skin Byron Westbrook (brother of Brian)

Pats worked out 9, Cris Carr and Curtis Painter among them.


Haven't heard about the Chiefs yet, but I am sure they are looking

RealSNR 09-12-2012 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 8904322)
It's caused Jason and I to lose our mind and post about midgets all the time

Is that why you post about midgets? And here I was reading it through a Freudian lens.

beach tribe 09-12-2012 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8904046)
Give me a list of all these starting caliber corners that were cut from their teams.

I'll be waiting.

And they are cheap because they didn't sign a min. salary corner. Priceless.

Micjones 09-12-2012 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8904467)
I think the reason they aren't playing Daniels at CB is because Lewis is out. I mean Elam is good enough and there probably isn't much difference between him and Daniels at FS. The thing is that a big part of their defense will rely on that 3-3-5 three safety formation that allows Berry to either line up at CB or as a hybrid LB. We use this formation quite a bit against good TEs and it's the way we have shut down Gates since Romeo came to KC. When Berry went out last year, it severly hampered RACs ability to use this formation. Berry has talked about it a little bit in an interview.

That's why this year he moved Daniels, one of his most reliable players, to safety this year. He wants to be able to run this formation no matter whcih three safeties he has.

In the end, I think the only way we see Daniels at CB is if Lewis comes back soon.

In my opinion.

Are we really any better off weak at Corner (with Reeves) or at Safety with someone like Hartman?
I guess with Reeves if you're trying to keep everything in front of you.

Black Bob 09-12-2012 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 8904254)
They were the highest ranked pair in terms of run stopping. Not in terms of rushing the passer, which has quite a bit more relevance in today's NFL.

By pff right? Who figures pff's stats? Are they better than Bleacher report? Or, are they only better because you have to pay? Aren't they taken by another dumbass sitting on the coach like you and me? Just like Bleacher Report? They aren't official stats but, they are good enough right mouth fingerer? What makes them experts?

I like their work too but, the lesson here is not to act like your bullshit stats are any better than my bullshit stats.

SAUTO 09-12-2012 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8904496)
Is that why you post about midgets? And here I was reading it through a Freudian lens.

mental midgets

Sorter 09-12-2012 01:01 PM

No, we ****ing do not run a god damn, mother ****ing 3-3-5. Jesus, do you ****ing watch the games? We run a 2-3-6. Poe and Bailey are typically our down lineman, with Tamba and Houston lined up outside both of them. Dj is lined up as the Mike, and Berry next to him, usually covering TEs. We then have 2 safeties deep, and 3 corners, which when healthy are Routt, Flowers and Arenas, who plays inside. Here is an article detailing how we run our 2-3-6 on >30% of our snaps. Oh, and it isn't from some stupid ****ing website like Bleacher Report either, dumbass.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...%80%93-part-1/

In fact, here is an image for you so you can get remember it easier. God ****ing dammit dude, I'm sick of explaining the same ****ing shit over and over again.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dIPo5JT23C...rt+--+dime.PNG

SAUTO 09-12-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8904503)
By pff right? Who figures pff's stats? Are they better than Bleacher report? Or, are they only better because you have to pay? Aren't they taken by another dumbass sitting on the coach like you and me? Just like Bleacher Report? They aren't official stats but, they are good enough right mouth fingerer? What makes them experts?

I like their work too but, the lesson here is not to act like your bullshit stats are any better than my bullshit stats.

lol, you like their work but it doesnt fit your agenda?

Black Bob 09-12-2012 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 8904512)
lol, you like their work but it doesnt fit your agenda?

No, she was being a bitch in another thread and she had it coming. I have actually used that same article many times in the last few months.

Sorter 09-12-2012 01:04 PM

Says the dumbass who doesn't know any of the ****ing defensive formations the Kansas CIty Chiefs run. You're a ****ing moron BlackBob.

Black Bob 09-12-2012 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 8904510)
No, we ****ing do not run a god damn, mother ****ing 3-3-5. Jesus, do you ****ing watch the games? We run a 2-3-6. Poe and Bailey are typically our down lineman, with Tamba and Houston lined up outside both of them. Dj is lined up as the Mike, and Berry next to him, usually covering TEs. We then have 2 safeties deep, and 3 corners, which when healthy are Routt, Flowers and Arenas, who plays inside. Here is an article detailing how we run our 2-3-6 on >30% of our snaps. Oh, and it isn't from some stupid ****ing website like Bleacher Report either, dumbass.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...%80%93-part-1/

In fact, here is an image for you so you can get remember it easier. God ****ing dammit dude, I'm sick of explaining the same ****ing shit over and over again.

You're wrong and you aren't very bright. We use both.

Remember lady, the problems that you suffer from are the problems that you make.

Titty Meat 09-12-2012 01:05 PM

There's a million guys better than reeves.

Florence
Chris Johnson
Joselio Hanson

I would have even rolled the dice on demarcus van dyke.

Oh yeah while pioli was wasting 7th round picks this year there was a guy by the name of Alfonzo Dennard he could have picked.

SAUTO 09-12-2012 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8904520)
No, she was being a bitch in another thread and she had it coming. I have actually used that same article many times in the last few months.

i will just go by who is wrong on a regular basis...

RealSNR 09-12-2012 01:06 PM

Sorter's a chick? I thought the avatar was just some picture from something internety and pop culturey that I didn't know

Marcellus 09-12-2012 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 8904307)
You've been here long enough. This place is ALWAYS a dumpster fire when things look bad.

Yea, but its even worse than usual. This place is basically Claytard Planet right now.

There are multiple people openly hoping for the team to lose just so that they can be correct. That bugs the **** out of me.

SAUTO 09-12-2012 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8904536)
Sorter's a chick? I thought the avatar was just some picture from something internety and pop culturey that I didn't know

i was wondering that myself.

Sorter 09-12-2012 01:07 PM

Did you even read the link I posted? Do you watch the games? We have never even ran a 3-3-5. Period.

Black Bob 09-12-2012 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 8904531)
There's a million guys better than reeves.

Florence
Chris Johnson
Joselio Hanson

I would have even rolled the dice on demarcus van dyke.

Oh yeah while pioli was wasting 7th round picks this year there was a guy by the name of Alfonzo Dennard he could have picked.

If those guys could play, Dimitrov wouldn't have just signed Terrence Johnson.

BoneKrusher 09-12-2012 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 8904237)
For what it's worth:

DJ
Berry
Houston
Winston
Allen (I don't ****ing understand why he isn't starting)
Hudson
Hillis
McCluster
Breaston
Baldwin
Asamoah
Belcher
Moeaki
Boss
Lewis
Routt
Poe
Powe
Toribio
Jackson
Bailey

DJ wasn't drafted by Pioli
and this list isn't very impressive at all for 4 years.

going into year four, the team should be a contender with this many high draft choices.

SAUTO 09-12-2012 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8904536)
Sorter's a chick? I thought the avatar was just some picture from something internety and pop culturey that I didn't know

might be his own nickname for sorter too...

PRIEST 09-12-2012 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 8904061)
Brandon Carr........:doh!:




This :banghead:

Black Bob 09-12-2012 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 8904534)
i will just go by who is wrong on a regular basis...

No problem. It will work itself out. I'm just tired of her mouth.

Quote:

Did you even read the link I posted? Do you watch the games? We have never even ran a 3-3-5. Period.
We run a form of the 3-3-5 every game honey. Just stick with the grammer corrections.

RealSNR 09-12-2012 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 8904506)
mental midgets

Post some threads about hippo poop helicopters. It's really relaxing. Calms you down instantly.

Sorter 09-12-2012 01:12 PM

BlackBob. I don't know how else I can make this clear to you, other than scheduling a ****ing interview with Crennel and having him explain to you that we have NEVER ****ING RAN A 3-3-5. We run a 2-3-6. FFS, I posted pictures, statistics from a renowned website when it comes to football statistics and you still don't get it. You're either a wonderful troll, or severely mentally handicapped. Judging from your spelling, grammatical use, and stupid ****ing ideas like "Brandon Siler is a better tackler than DJ" and "McCluster is quicker than Charles" in the past, I'm starting to believe it is the latter.

Sorter 09-12-2012 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8904554)
No problem. It will work itself out. I'm just tired of her mouth.



We run a form of the 3-3-5 every game honey. Just stick with the grammer corrections.

Alright. Post some evidence. Go.

Black Bob 09-12-2012 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 8904560)
Alright. Post some evidence. Go.

Ok but, you have to ask me nicely.

For the future, understand that we run a 3-3-5 more than we run a 2-3-6.

Sorter 09-12-2012 01:20 PM

We don't. Try reading, or is your fetal-alcohol syndrome too severe?

If you really wanted to shut me up, you could just prove me wrong and show that we run the 3-3-5 more than the 2-3-6 (which is Romeo's baby, idiot) with things like, evidence.

ChiTown 09-12-2012 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8904538)
Yea, but its even worse than usual. This place is basically Claytard Planet right now.

There are multiple people openly hoping for the team to lose just so that they can be correct. That bugs the **** out of me.

I can't disagree with that

htismaqe 09-12-2012 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8904565)
Ok but, you have to ask me nicely.

For the future, understand that we run a 3-3-5 more than we run a 2-3-6.

Stop stalling and post your evidence.

Sorter 09-12-2012 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8904578)
Stop stalling and post your evidence.

He can't. He's just trolling.

Black Bob 09-12-2012 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8904578)
Stop stalling and post your evidence.

Not until she asks nicely. Some people here are so mean. I am still waiting for pest to ask nicely and I have his link ready too.

Sorter 09-12-2012 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8904554)
No problem. It will work itself out. I'm just tired of her mouth.



We run a form of the 3-3-5 every game honey. Just stick with the grammer corrections.

grammer
mmer
mer
er
e

:banghead:

Black Bob 09-12-2012 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 8904598)
grammer
mmer
mer
er
e
r
:banghead:

you forgot the r

Sorter 09-12-2012 01:29 PM

Pkg 3-4-4 4-3-4 5-2-4 2-4-5 3-3-5 4-2-5 1-4-6 2-3-6 3-2-6 4-1-6 1-3-7 Other
KC 55% 0% 0% 9% 0% 0% 1% 32% 0% 0% 1% 3%

Here is what I posted in the link for everyone to see. According to PFF, we ran the 3-3-5 in 2011 0 times. That's right, 0% of our snaps were in that formation. However, we ran the 2-3-6 in 32% of our snaps.

Here's the link again for those who missed it.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...%80%93-part-1/

Black Bob 09-12-2012 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 8904611)
Pkg 3-4-4 4-3-4 5-2-4 2-4-5 3-3-5 4-2-5 1-4-6 2-3-6 3-2-6 4-1-6 1-3-7 Other
KC 55% 0% 0% 9% 0% 0% 1% 32% 0% 0% 1% 3%

Here is what I posted in the link for everyone to see. According to PFF, we ran the 3-3-5 in 2011 0 times. That's right, 0% of our snaps were in that formation. However, we ran the 2-3-6 in 32% of our snaps.

Here's the link again for those who missed it.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...%80%93-part-1/

And that's where I am setting you up to prove that pff isn't always right. Ask me nicely and I'll take you to school bitch. I am way ahead of you.

TEX 09-12-2012 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8904546)
DJ wasn't drafted by Pioli
and this list isn't very impressive at all for 4 years.

going into year four, the team should be a contender with this many high draft choices.

BINGO! Add Cassel to the list and it looks even less impressive.

Frosty 09-12-2012 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 8904483)
Tampa Bay hosted 7 defensive players including Everette Brown.

I know Brown was a bust but I have hard time believing he wouldn't be better than Studebaker based on raw talent alone.

Black Bob 09-12-2012 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 8904611)
Pkg 3-4-4 4-3-4 5-2-4 2-4-5 3-3-5 4-2-5 1-4-6 2-3-6 3-2-6 4-1-6 1-3-7 Other
KC 55% 0% 0% 9% 0% 0% 1% 32% 0% 0% 1% 3%

Here is what I posted in the link for everyone to see. According to PFF, we ran the 3-3-5 in 2011 0 times. That's right, 0% of our snaps were in that formation. However, we ran the 2-3-6 in 32% of our snaps.

Here's the link again for those who missed it.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...%80%93-part-1/

You know what's really funny about this? Even if it was right (which it isn't), here's my post that spurred this discussion...


Quote:

I think the reason they aren't playing Daniels at CB is because Lewis is out. I mean Elam is good enough and there probably isn't much difference between him and Daniels at FS. The thing is that a big part of their defense will rely on that 3-3-5 three safety formation that allows Berry to either line up at CB or as a hybrid LB. We use this formation quite a bit against good TEs and it's the way we have shut down Gates since Romeo came to KC. When Berry went out last year, it severly hampered RACs ability to use this formation. Berry has talked about it a little bit in an interview.

That's why this year he moved Daniels, one of his most reliable players, to safety this year. He wants to be able to run this formation no matter whcih three safeties he has.

In the end, I think the only way we see Daniels at CB is if Lewis comes back soon.

In my opinion.

Sorter 09-12-2012 02:01 PM

Jesus. This is what the 3-3-5 looks like http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._green.svg.png

Notice how that looks nothing like what we put on the field? This is what we put on the field

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dIPo5JT23C...rt+--+dime.PNG

Sorter 09-12-2012 02:06 PM

Quote: I think the reason they aren't playing Daniels at CB is because Lewis is out. I mean Elam is good enough and there probably isn't much difference between him and Daniels at FS. The thing is that a big part of their defense will rely on that 3-3-5 three safety formation that allows Berry to either line up at CB or as a hybrid LB. We use this formation quite a bit against good TEs and it's the way we have shut down Gates since Romeo came to KC. When Berry went out last year, it severly hampered RACs ability to use this formation. Berry has talked about it a little bit in an interview.

That's why this year he moved Daniels, one of his most reliable players, to safety this year. He wants to be able to run this formation no matter whcih three safeties he has.

In the end, I think the only way we see Daniels at CB is if Lewis comes back soon.

In my opinion.



You're literally right about this post minus the fact we don't run a 3-3-5. He likes to have another safety up in the box instead of having 3 down lineman, because of the coverage abilities Safeties typically bring.

Sorter 09-12-2012 02:08 PM

Which is why we have 2 down lineman, 3 LBs (because Belcher can't cover) and 6 DBs. 3 safeties, and 3 corners.

Sorter 09-12-2012 02:21 PM

You can see us in this package at the :12 and 1:58 mark in this video. No 3-3-5 though

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...efs-highlights

ThaVirus 09-12-2012 02:21 PM

**** it, sit him this week and let him rest for the Saints game.

HemiEd 09-12-2012 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8904191)
How does that make sense to ANYONE?

So, because Reeves was covering Jones...that made it easier for Routt to cover White?

What?

I believe his point was that Routt is going to be thrown at less often with a weaker corner on the other side.

BoneKrusher 09-12-2012 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8904738)
I believe his point was that Routt is going to be thrown at less often with a weaker corner on the other side.

yep
any smart QB should take advantage of that situation.

HemiEd 09-12-2012 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8904536)
Sorter's a chick? I thought the avatar was just some picture from something internety and pop culturey that I didn't know

If so, it must be that time of the month.

HemiEd 09-12-2012 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8904742)
yep
any smart QB should take advantage of that situation.

He certainly did, it almost looked easy for Ryan.

Black Bob 09-12-2012 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 8904726)
You can see us in this package at the :12 and 1:58 mark in this video. No 3-3-5 though

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...efs-highlights

Check the :43 second mark. Julio gets the pick play TD on a 3-3-5 defense. The Chiefs base nickel pack is a 3-3-5 defense. That's where pff goes wrong. Occassionally KC uses a 4 down linemen nickel formation but not very often.

There's the 3-3-5 nickel which is where you bring in an extra corner. Then, there's the 3-3-5 star where you bring in a third safety. Pff isn't including the 3-3-5 nickel in their 3-3-5 stats on your link.

In the star formation, the "star" player is a LB/S tweener who plays up torwards the line. This role is meant for Berry but McGraw mostly played it in Berry's rookie season. The plan was for Berry to play it last year and now he's playing it this year at times.


Consider that we played in the nickel 50% of the snaps last year. Some people even argue that the 3-3-5 nickel is our base formation.

If you go back and look at the Green bay game from last year, we lined up in the nickel 86% of the snaps in that game. You will see the 3-3-5 quite a bit.

Last, whoever said Dorsey doesn't line up in the nickel is dead wrong. The only DE that comes out is Jackson..... In the past anyway.

BoneKrusher 09-12-2012 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8904783)
He certainly did, it almost looked easy for Ryan.

exactly.
that's why Pioli made a mistake by letting Carr get out.
we could've had Carr/Routt last sunday.
i know it would have been an expensive secondary but hey, it would have been worth it.

Frosty 09-12-2012 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8904794)
Check the :43 second mark. Julio gets the pick play TD on a 3-3-5 defense. The Chiefs base nickel pack is a 3-3-5 defense. That's where pff goes wrong. Occassionally KC uses a 4 down linemen nickel formation but not very often.

I don't know. I see 2 linemen, 4 LB (99, across from the LG, is Jones, a LB) and 3 db (with 2 db off of the screen).

http://i45.tinypic.com/2im4207.jpg

Hammock Parties 09-12-2012 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 8904029)
There are a lot of posters here who sound exactly like GoChiefs.

I'm glad people are finally seeing this shit-dick regime for what it is.

My eyes have been wide ****ing open for months.

bevischief 09-12-2012 03:27 PM

:popcorn:

Hammock Parties 09-12-2012 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8904538)
Yea, but its even worse than usual. This place is basically Claytard Planet right now.

There are multiple people openly hoping for the team to lose just so that they can be correct. That bugs the **** out of me.

People are realizing what's up.

The curtain is being thrown back on this failed regime, and ghastly inept management is the show.

Pioli's in the spotlight, ****ing a chicken, and people are about to stop paying for it.

Hammock Parties 09-12-2012 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8904262)
Our DE's should be able to do something in terms of rushing the passer. But in case you weren't aware, that's not their job in KC's scheme.

In case you weren't aware, they couldn't do it even if they were asked to.

Titty Meat 09-12-2012 03:48 PM

How long does a partially torn ligament take to heal?

Hammock Parties 09-12-2012 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8904174)
What?

Routt had a really nice game facing White and Jones (two of the best receivers in the game) and people go to these lengths to try and discredit it?

Routt faced better competition than Carr and came out with a much better grade.

Routt was only thrown at 4 times because they were too busy raping Reeves and DJ. He still gave up 3 catches.

Go back and look at the tape and you will see Routt letting Roddy White run wide the **** open on Julio's first TD.

His fail is coming. Shit, his idea of "good coverage" is just to rape the receiver with contact.

Marcellus 09-12-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8904876)
People are realizing what's up.

The curtain is being thrown back on this failed regime, and ghastly inept management is the show.

Pioli's in the spotlight, ****ing a chicken, and people are about to stop paying for it.

You are an idiot. Nothing is going to change any time soon. For one this team will win enough games Pioli will keep his job.

You rooting for the Chiefs to fail to prove your point is like hoping the US economy will totally collapse so we will elect a better president.

Problem is there is no reason to believe we will make the change to better leadership so all you are doing is rooting for failure.

Time to start rooting for success and quiet being a douche nozzle.

Douche nozzle.

Hammock Parties 09-12-2012 03:55 PM

Do you even realize that I was TOO optimistic before last Sunday? I thought we'd lose by TEN.

This regime is ultra fail.


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