I won't bring Cassel into it at all since that pisses Laz off so much. :)

In all seriousness, I wouldnt' take Cutler as my QB under pretty much any circumstance. He's not a guy you build a TEAM around because he doesn't seem to understand the term.

ROFLROFLROFL

all that talent being wasted on that Bears defense, lol. And i thought the Chiefs had it bad.

At least Forte got his money before this burning ship truly sinks this season. Good looking out Forte

that was kinda my point as well

Unfortunately, it looks like Forte, although through no fault of his own, is going to be part of the problem. Dude just cannot stay healthy.

Forte with a HAS last night. Not good for him.

Its like do you want to die with a red hot aids anvil shoved up your ass or would you rather have a red hot aids anvil shoved up your ass?

Neither sound pleasant.

I don't blame him. Block for my ass. That's what you get paid to do. If my offensive line was constantly getting owned I'm not gonna Cassel it and just be like oh it's ok we got this. I'm a franchise QB mother ****ers. Protect me so I can earn my pay. I wouldn't have done it if the line wasn't getting owned the way they were last night. That was embarrasing.

Cassel has everything but actual talent.

Cutler has nothing but actual talent.

I think in the end, though, they'll both get you to the same bad place.

But deep down EVEN LAZ has to know that Cassel sucks serious Azz.

If the stars were completely aligned and Cassel found a pot of gold in his azz when coming close to the end of a rainbow then he might have a big snowballs chance in hell of "Dilfering" the Chiefs all the way to a SB win. Then again I could win the lottery and Clayton could find a girlfriend that doesn't take visa.

Can we put Cassel and Cutler in a mixing pot, stir them up and take the combination?

Laz knows Cassel isn't any good.

Laz' beef is that people tend to turn every Chiefs thread here into a bitchfest about Cassel.

Jay Cutler is Ryan Leaf but with mediocre success.

Or he is calling out people for blaming everything on Cassel, just because its Cassel. But when QB X does it, well its someone elses fault... NOT QB X's fault, cause he isnt Cassel...

Its the hiprocity oath of being a CP member.

He did the same thing Cassel is criticized for here. He checked down to Forte every play.

Well, there are several QBs I'd take before Cutler.

Cassel certainly is not one of them.

Agree... I put Cutler and Cassel in the same shitty class...

Cassel sucks

Cutler SUCKS

Ok - but Cassel's shit smells worse.

Hey, he can't throw it & catch it too...

What's Webb going to do? Continue to not block people? That guy is dogshit and should be embarassed to show himself in the film room. He was made Clay Matthews' prison bitch.

Hey thats between you and Cassel...

Imagine Cassel with the Bears O-line lmao

Doesn't it just bring a smile to your face when Marshall is Marshall and Cutler is Cutler? The bad news, they aren't in Denver any longer.

LMAO

Cassel > Ummm...Uhhh... :shrug:

Jay Cutler has always been a little bitch. Philip Rivers has always been a little bitch. Both of them will never win Superbowls unless their defense carries them to it.

Yep.

That's how Peyton won.

He is better than Cassel but it doesn't matter.

Jayvis Cutlerbac, no thanks.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...rs-leadership/




Ex-Bears teammate Ogunleye questions Cutler’s leadership

Posted by Michael David Smith on September 15, 2012, 8:28 PM EDT
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The talk that Jay Cutler’s teammates could turn on him if the Bears’ quarterback doesn’t become a better leader has been bolstered by a former teammate who was a co-captain of the Bears with Cutler three years ago.


Adewale Ogunleye, a retired defensive end who along with Cutler was one of the Bears’ captains in 2009, said on WSCR in Chicago that Cutler had no right to yell at his offensive linemen in the Bears’ loss to the Packers, because Cutler wasn’t playing much of a game himself.


“[i]f you live in a glass house, you can’t throw any stones,” Ogunleye said, via the Chicago Tribune. “So the way I am looking at the game, no one is yelling at Jay when he is throwing the ball three [actually four] times to their defenders. And you’ve got to have some sense of accountability. At the end of the day, you start losing the respect of your teammates, you start losing the respect of that offensive line when publicly you’re bumping people and yelling at them in their face. I don’t think it is the right thing to do.”


Ogunleye suggested that another Bears leader, perhaps Brian Urlacher, will have to sit Cutler down and tell him to knock off the hollering at his linemen.


“The team is going to have to police itself,” Ogunleye said. “Maybe Brian will have to say something. The more you yell at them, the more pressure you are putting on your own teammate.”


Ogunleye, who spent 11 seasons in the NFL, said that the NFL’s elite quarterbacks are better at relating to their teammates than Cutler is.
“There is no good to Jay, there is no smiling,” Ogunleye said. “All we see is when he is pissed off, when he is angry and that reflects in the way people might view him in the locker room. But a guy like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, genuinely they are nice people and they overextend themselves. Tom Brady can be the biggest diva in the world – he has that right, he has won Super Bowls – but he is not that guy. I think that is why he is even more likeable.”




If Ogunleye is to be believed, there are players in the Bears’ locker room who don’t find Cutler likeable.