They didn't have as many drops last weekend against a 1-AA school. ROFL

Vandenberg reminds me a lot of Jake Christiansen. No emotion at all. Throws a damn beautiful ball one play and a goddamn duck the next. All while looking like a jugs machine instead of a real person.

Just for the sake of clarity, I hope Piloi is gone the day after tomorrow. My line of reasoning is that Clark will see that we have a rookie QB, and will feel that it isn't "fair" to can Pioli with a rook leading the team....


But to your question.... no, I can't think of one. Carl might work in that scenario, but at least he had success in the regular season to fall back on, even though that shouldn't have been the litmus.

When did Carl get his last extension?

The Chiefs were probably a good team at the time.

"Eliminate bad football."

Sign outside of Chiefs locker room, according to 810. LMAO.

"Try Not To Lose So Often"

#romeoinspires

Who's going to be the one to cap Cassel?

Dayton Moore has called over to suggest having a T-shirt Tuesday to boost fan morale.

Our cheap **** management team will probably use the leftover Our Time t-shirts, to boot.

LMAO

2005.

:)

BUT LOOK AT ALL THE DEPTH!!!!

I mean c'mon, our starting guard is our backup center. Pitoitua, Edgar Jones, Tysyn Hartman! If McCluster goes down we have ANOTHER overdrafted midget target to throw to in Wylie.

Mother of ****, how can he possibly have been this bad? He was given 9 legitimate young starters with plus upside in Charles, Bowe, Albert, Smith, Hali, Carr, Pollard, Babin and DJ, plus some decent established vets in TG and Waters. With all those things taken care of, he has managed to supplement them by adding...NOTHING.

It's not like he started at damn near ground zero - he had a shitload of talent that was already on this roster. And somehow, some way, we're still one pulled hammy from Edgar ****ing Jones as our starting linebacker. We're not deeper, we're not better, we're just different. He's made little more than lateral moves and downgrades despite 4 years of roster machinations.

Jesus tits he's been awful. I don't want to hear a goddamn thing about how he's improved roster depth - he hasn't. All he's done is replace the parts he foolishly cast off.

I hate this worthless sack more and more each day.

How many times have posters on this board stated otherwise, earnestly believing it, because of their disdain for Carl and Herm?

Excellent talent at key positions, and the "Executive of the Decade" turned a legit. opportunity of a lifetime into a ****ing disaster.

Top 10 in the shitter-league.

He's burned through DJ and Hali's primes and Flowers will start his decline in a year or so (such is the life of undersized corners, look at Law). Charles is probably due for a similar decline soon enough as well.

It's tough to really wrap your mind around how god-awful a job he's done.

But hey, we should totally let him draft a first round QB and give him another 3 years. He's clearly earned it...

Asshole.

What really sucks is that if a new GM comes in....he's basically got 2-3 years before we're replacing people like Hali and Flowers again. What a ****ing waste...

You think there is a chance in hell that this Chiefs team wins 12 of the next 14 games? You need meds.

This team should be on the phone trading away Tamba Hali and whoever else they can think of to stock up on future draft choices. We need ammo for a franchise QB more than we need the 6 or 7 wins in 2012.

Pioli should also be spending his free time locating a legitimate coaching staff. Crennel, et al are not going to get it done. No. Way.

Heard a stat on the radio this morning. Nothing particularly new, since we hear it every year, but...

Something like 183 (approximately, I'm working from memory here--but I'm very close) teams have started the season 0-3, and only 5 (positive of this number) have gone on to make the playoffs.

Yup.

If the next GM builds a champion, it will be with guys like Hali and Flowers likely assuming secondary roles. If he's extremely lucky, Pioli will leave him with 1/2 the young talent that Pioli inherited and Houston and Baldwin will become the next Hali and Bowe. Maybe Jeff Allen will be as good as Wade Smith has been and I'm sure Jalil Brown will be the next Flowers...

Y'know what, I can't even finish this exercise.

FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKK!!!! He's been soooo bad....

Whoever comes in will inherit a situation similar to the one Baalke/Harbaugh took over. It's not all doom and gloom.

He should be spending his free time apologizing to the fans who he's stolen 4 years from and the families of the little old ladies that finally offed themselves after watching this abortion of a team.

Then he should spend whatever free time he has remaining polishing up his resume and offering to fellate Big Daddy Bill.

Demand to start Stanzi in week 4 if/when the Chiefs lose this Sunday. Tank this season properly.

**** that he might win a game or 2. 2008 has taught us we must go 0-16 and Cassel gives us the best chance at that.

I think that Stanzi would be Palko-lite on the field, which is far worse than Cassel.

The latter is rightfully abused because he's supposed to be an answer and asset, whereas Stanzi hasn't shown the skill set necessary to be even a backup.

Ah good point. He would sell tickets though.

Maybe Quinn could get his Palko on and ensure that every home game is blacked out. That will get us where we need to go.

That's one thing I'm sure of as long as Pioli is here Cassel will be the unquestioned starter

I agree.:banghead:

Exactly the conversation I had with my friemds last weekend. He's burned up players in thier prime waiting on HIS QB.

Pioli and Cassel can both get the **** out of Kansas City. They have totalled ****ed over this franchise. It was headed in the right direction in 2009 only to have that fat ****er from Boston fist us over with a loser like Cassel just to stoke his own fat ego since he has never done shit without Bill Belichick holding his hand.

*Of course all of this was said in 2009 as well.

Let's not go overboard.

Flowers is only 26 and Law had 10 interceptions in the year he was 31 years old and he had an extra full year worth of games in the playoffs.

Flowers has another 5 or 6 years of top play if the injuries don't cut into that timeworn.

How were we headed in the right direction in 2009?

Bowe is 28
Hali is 28
DJ is 29

Those are the guys that should want to punch Cassel and Pioli in the groin.

Flowers will never be Ty Law. Law was elite for a while. Flowers is more like Sheldon Brown. Brown was a very good corner.

Exactly. Like I said it's a Baalke/Harbaugh situation for whoever is the next GM and coach.

Yeah but, one could easily argue that Cassel should want to punch DJ and Bowe in the nuts to. They are the most inconsistent players on the team. They screw up at least as much as Cassel.

I don't really like Cassel and I am not defending him but it's true. Those two are part of the problem with this team.

Kill yourself.

You are a POS.

A complete waste of oxygen.

What I'm saying is true. We need leadership. We need players who can make the play when it counts.

In my opinion, we are/were never going to win anything with those two.

I love the Chiefs. I have my whole life but, I have seen enough of some of these guys to know better than to ever count on them for anything.

Just crawl away and die.

Useless.

Ok it was funny at first but now his moron and LAChieffan are just annoying.

I find it incredibly ironic that guys like you bitch about mediocraty but, defend guys like them until the end. I'll go crawl in my hole for the night butknow that it's hard to understand you.

DJ and Bowe are the LEAST of this team's problems you ****ing reeruned Troglodyte.

BlackBob has a real problem with looking at Bowe fairly.

But DJ, right now, is a problem.

He's playing the same game he was before Haley showed up and held him accountable for maintaining his resposibility in the defensive scheme.

HMOG

Just go back to CC.

If you were just trolling, your posts would be entertaining.

But, you aren't.

You believe the reeruned shot you post.

When guys like FAX (one of the nicest guys on this board) and Phobia (a guy that tried to help you brush the piranhas off you) call you out for being anti smart...it's time to just go back to reading and stop posting stuff that's related to football.

You are getting to levels that are epic.

Totally agree...but I'm gonna wait and see what happens when his HAS heals.

I think that is factoring into things just as much as what Haley did for forcing DJ to focus to keep his job.

The scheme is the problem. There's too many holes and not enough bodies to fill them.

JSP explained it nicely in Pete's other thread dedicated to whining about DJ.

Leading the league with 15 TDs in a single season isn't mediocre, nimrod.

Which thread is that?

Pete is whining everywhere.

But, yeah, I know this scheme is playing a part.

It really places a ton of responsiblity on DJ and Berry.

Are you ****ing kidding me you couldn't tell we were headed in the right direction in 2009?

I'll drop it. I won't voice my opinion anymore about Bowe. I know all the stats and have seen my own eyes. I have different expectations than some of you. I'll just shut up about Bowe. I give you my word.

BlackKnobBobber is on my ignore list.

**** that ****.

Clark Hunt is more likely to pay Jason Whitlock to sit on his face than he is to not extend Pioli. Pioli isn't going anywhere, so you might as well prepare yourself, because we'll all be on here talking about how much we hate the bald-headed prick 3 years from now.

What ****ing expectations do you have exactly?

Guys that MAKE PLAYS drop passes.

The top 10 WRs in terms of dropped passes in 2011?

Guess who's on the list this year? Julio Jones and Victor Cruz

Seriously, your expectations are way out of whack.

But......but....those guys are dropping unimportant passes.

Bitch bitch bitch. I've heard it before. I understand you want me to leave but, I'm not leaving dude. **** fax and phobia if they don't like me. I was nothing but nice to them and they both shit on me first. It's the truth. When I met Fax he jumped in like everyone else and phobia gives me the "he's seen my kind before" speech. I jumped fax's ass and then I apologized. The smart ass comments pissed me off at first. I also took phobia's advice and thanked him. If they have a problem with me and are unwilling to accept my apology then **** them. I have mellowed quite a bit. I take alot of abuse and have some good points. I am learning alot and some of you have alot to learn. Every time you feel threatened (like today), you lash out and tell me to go back to CC. I am not concerned with proving myself. Chill out dude. I am not trying to one up you. I am just giving my opinion.

Quit being a drama queen and lets talk football.

Dude, listen to yourself.

FAX jumped on you "like everyone else". You "take a lot of abuse".

Here's a hint. If the vast majority of those around you are lining up to tell you your takes suck, that doesn't mean you should assume that everybody else is dumb and you're the smartest guy in the room.

Whoever is the one that drafts a first round LEGIT quarterback is gonna get GOD status in KC.

It also depends on what's done with this coaching staff.

This team NEEDS a legit DC so Romeo can do HIS JOB.

Right now, Romeo is the kid that wants three scoops of ice cream even though he can barely eat one.

We disagree on some issues pretty intensely...but it's times like these that I'm glad we are both on the same side.

If Clark wants to get a return on his 150 million dollar investment into giving Arrowhead more premium seating and luxury amenities...he needs to get a quarterback that not only well off fans want to pay to watch from the Julius caesar seats...but also that corporate companies in town want to drop huge chunks of cash on luxury boxes and private suites for their executives...you know...the suites that Clark built with all that cash...

I hope that if Pioli insists on going down with the SS Cassel that Clark fires him in one of those suites and let's him know that them being empty is why he got fired.

It's the same people from day one. It's pretty easy to see who the assholes are. I don't think I am the smartest guy in the room by any means and I am learning alot here.

People like fax for example, have asked for my take on certain things. It's not really the way you make it out to be.

You and pest constantly take what I say and twist it. It's pretty much constant. For example, you are talking about #52 in another thread over there. I never wanted #52 to start. People can see it. You are just your run of the mill average message board dickhead.

Nay, I say! Nay! I did not jump on Mr. BlackBob. That's a falsehood and it isn't true, either.

I was damn nice to him and he went crazy, I tell you. Crazy. Afterwards, I was forced to declare him a nemesis and Class 2 Moron. I had no choice. He left me no other option.

Actually, I think our burgeoning relationship went south because he misinterpreted my attempt to offer advice and assumed that I was giving him a hard time. Before that, I was interested in learning more about him in order to determine best how to interact. They say that you have to speak slowly and articulate clearly with a certified imbecile.

FAX

Dude you are essentially referencing every member of ChiefsPlanet, and if you don't like your antagonizers use the ignore feature.

I think BlackGomerPyle is the first poster I have ever seen FAX actually clown.

If a shitty poster is showing his ass, FAX is usually the guy with the most class that finds the one line the poster got right and praise him for it and show him the utmost respect.

The problem is that BlackGomerPyle says loads of dumb shit and then acts superior to everyone and calls everyone dumb that doesn't agree with him...even though EVERYONE can tell his take is dead wrong.

That's the equivalent of Matt Cassel saying "we need to avoid these third and longs against teams with good defensive lines" instead of saying something like "I need to do a better job of helping this team put points on the board. I feel I am letting my teammates down"

He takes numerous opportunities to improve and learn and just digs a deeper grave with every post.

We all know the score Mr. FAX.

The guy is just like the Matt Cassel of CP.

He got blitzed a couple times early on and he thinks every time he drops back he is gonna get killed...when those types of thoughts are in ones mind...the battle is already lost for him.

You are a class act and a huge credit to this site and everyone would agree with that statement.

more drama.... blah blah blah Boss


Yeah, I did get a little harsh on you fax and that's why I apologized. It took me a minute. If you don't want to accept my apology, that's cool. However, remember that people who don't forgive are the hardest people to forgive.

You kiss ass more than anyone here. That's why people **** with all the time. You are an aroogant ass kisser. How exactly does that work?

I'd advise that you keep your trap shut while the adults are speaking. You'll most likely learn something of great value.

And what the **** kind of job do you have that you can post 1,500 times in a month?

I shall always remember those wise words of wise wisdom, Mr. BlackBob.

However, I have to tell you that I never saw your apology. Must have missed it.

Of course, if you wish, you are welcome to make another one. I like single-malts (Laphroaig is nice) and Fuente cigars. These are known as "Hippie Digestifs". Or, if you prefer and you're tight on cash, you could just grovel some. If that's your choice, please note that I prefer my groveling sincere and authentic but no boot-licking, please ... it ruins the shine.

FAX

There are literally about 30 posters on this site that I value every post of theirs.

Another 40 or so that I value more of their posts than ones I don't.

With that crop of posters, I treat them like friends...and that doesn't always mean I am nice to them (like talking can, OTWP, DJ, Pest, Mecca and others) but generally speaking there is a mutual respect there.

Everybody else, I am not required to treat with that level of respect until it's EARNED...like the others have already done.

Most of your posts are dumb as shit and unless you see a true, un coalitioned response to them, you will continue to go around embarrassing yourself.

In a way I am trying to help, but you (and others like you) can't understand that.

Nobody said you wanted Siler to start. They're ripping you for your actual take- that you think Siler is a better tackler than Derrick Johnson. And it's well-deserved. That's simply not true. Much like EVERYTHING you post.

The shear, as in Rhonda, number of posts attacking basic human decency have gone up dramatically since FAX returned.

He DID say Siler should start.

****, he said Derrick Johnson should be CUT.

I'll say that again, he thinks we should CUT a FIRST TEAM ALL PRO INSIDE BACKER.

<grovel grovel> I'm sorry. I misinterpreted your tone and i misunderstood you. I was very defensive in that moment.

I don't really hate hippies. I have hung with them quite a bit. I have been punk or punk at heart since 1985. It's just fun to pick on them sometimes. :evil:

Same guys. Same drama. Same bullshit.

It's always one of you. Today Boss went to school. Yesterday it was Dane. Quit ****ing with me and I will quit embarrassing you. People see you are getting ass raped.

I'm warning you guys for the last time! I'm gonna take the gloves off!

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...jpg?1283985465

LMAO

Delusional ****.

How is this bleeding **** still green? JFC, I don't get it.

You are a liar. Why didn't we sign Carr last year dane? come on. Let's do this again you ****ing liar.

I'm a liar?

What the **** is wrong with you, Douche****?

You're god damn right you're a liar and you dodged me yesterday after I proved it. Don't talk to me about who to listen to you ****ing liar.