We can bump this thread in a few years and see who was right about Tannehill.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

But Manning wanted NO PART OF FAT SCOTT! :doh!: Can't really blame him for that.

You live in Puerto Rico or something?

Well, Ray Lewis WILL be in town next weekend.

This!

As I understand it, Peyton said be something to the effect of

"My salary negotiations start no lower than this $$$ amount, if that is not your cup of tea then don't bother"

At which point we promptly turned around and said no thank you. Which is odd considering how much we still have in cap room.

yep and i do not blame Manning for that.

You're so dumb.

Precisely.

Is this Pioli going down the road to throwing Romeo under the bus to save himself, same as he did Haley?

(Not that Romeo has done a good job or anything)

He doesn't believe in real competition. He thinks you need to have one entrenched starter that nobody questions

We'll see. :thumb:

Pioli may have wanted Manning but Manning certainly didn't want Pioli!

Pioli is the spurned lover.....HAHAHAHA

For once we agree. Pioli did not do jack shit in any attempt to get Manning.

That shouldn't be a valid excuse. This is two head coaches in a row he's whiffed on.

LMAO

See what exactly? Tannehill wasn't a 4th round talent however you want to spin it.

His wife alone makes him no less than a third rounder.

I refuse to subscribe to the hot wife notion. It did us no good with Croyle.

"Hey Pay-Me-A-Ton, how about 4.2 million to be a Chief?"
-Pioli and cHunt

I agree with revisionist history.

They had every chance to draft a qb after rg3.

Every team that did not have a good qb checked to see peytons interest.

Saying they tried to get competition is a copout.

Cassel is one of the worst qbs in the league for poise and leadership, then add arm, accuracy, scrambling and reads to that. Our back ups could do better with reps in the games. But no. Why? Because pioli never wanted competition.

Shit, if I were bowe and truely want off the team. I would publically state I will not play on another tag or contract next year if cassel is qb on the team. He will either get traded or pioli and cassel get let go. That is my wish at least.

Wait, what?

LMAO Was waiting to see if you were going to say something. Atlantic Time Zone represent!

Yes but in Tannehill's wife's case she is the only one in the marriage with a vagina.

:LOL:

And not a glass one at that.

HAHA

OWNED

I think we can still sign him.

They went after him so hard he didn't even answer their phone calls.

Because Romo had a bad game against the Bears?

Cassel shits his pants against vaunted defenses like the BROWNS.

Look, if you wanna argue about whether or not Tony Romo is a franchise or elite QB, you won't find an opponent in me. I think he's a choke artist.

But he's WAY better than Matt Cassel. It's not even close.

:thumb:

Yeah they made a phone call said the price was too steep and never got a call back.

Pioli blitzkreig!!

Dude, Michael Vick made Casshole look like Pee Wee football on Sunday Night.

I was impressed.

Well, Romo is a much better passer than Cassel. Romo does have baggage but if he didn't have baggage than there is no way he would be available. I think a change of location for him might do wonders. I hate the Cowboys play calling. It is horrible. They never stick with the running game..Never. I think if Romo was on a team that can run the ball and does run the ball he would be much more effective.

You can't blame Romo for everything that has happened in Dallas. Look at the game Monday night. His stats were terrible, but Romo didn't play that badly. He just always gets screwed and then makes the mistake at the wrong time.

Still cant get over how Manning didnt even return a call. Not even a no thank you, a sorry we are looking in another direction. NOTHING. At the time i couldnt beleive it. I was like, why wouldnt you want to play with the offensive talent we got. Well, it was the damn GM that he didnt want anything to do with.

I dont even think they got anything. I m pretty sure in a presser Pioli said they gave em a call, but never talked to anyone. lol

From what I've heard Tom Condon isn't much of a fan of Pioli...or how the Chiefs are ran in general. Word gets around in the NFL.

Peyton loves the media. Do people think he would enjoy being muzzled?
Peyton said he wanted a family atmosphere. Nope.
I'm sure at the end of his career, he wanted assurance that the team would take care of them, not treat him like a business transaction. Nope.
Peyton wanted control of the offense, including influencing personnel decisions and being given license to play call. Nope.

There's so many reasons the marriage wouldn't work. Granted, we wouldn't want Peyton to have all these things necessarily. But it never made sense for Peyton to come here.

This :thumb:

You know, I would love to really know and understand how the rest of the league heavy-hitters view our front office, Pioli in particular, and the franchise in general. I mean, the kind of opinion that you get over a couple of scotchs and a cigar. I'll bet it isn't very pretty, to be honest.

FAX

Romo's problem is mental, Cassel's problem is everything.

Kind of hard to go after a guy went he has zero interest in playing for your team. It's kind of like pushing hard to screw a hot chick that is out of your league. You can say I tried hard even though it's never happening.

Show the bitch some money, and you'll have the hot girl slobbering the knob.

Those of you trying to make it seem Peyton didn't go to KC because of a money issue are funny.

He, for good reason, had no ****ing desire at all to go to KC...

Pioli obviously planting stories in the media in a pathetically transparent attempt to save his own ass.

Not possible to get this guy out of town quickly enough.

I don't think the Chiefs wanted to pay him as much as he wanted.

Which doesn't matter, because he didn't wanna play for Pioli.

Yup.

Yup Chiefsplanet is running this guy out of town.

I really wasn't paying too close of attention to the language. A "source with knowledge of . . . Scott Pioli's thinking"? LMAO.

Individual with access to Pioli's thoughts? Wait for it...Pioli. What a cowardly sonofabitch this guy is.

Yup.

Mitch on 810 stressing the need to simplify the offense for Cassel. What a perverse joke this is.

"OMAHA OMAHA" first ****ing audible I've heard from Casshole in over 4 ****ing years?

Like this?

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/480/donatellup5.jpg

That's not an audible. It's the snap count.

It's worse than I thought then. LMAO

Good stuff, guys. All we can do at this point is laugh and numb the pain with single malts.

This is not the case, rather it was the attempt by Pioli doing too much before the right time.


Here is your finale PHM scoop, my sources will remain annomous ! The story I got was Tom Condon had the Chiefs set up for a chance ( slim one but a chance), with the final PM visit to be made at the end of the process. It's just that Pioli jumped too quick and offered money first, before PM was to do any visiting. Pioli really thought he could get the inside track on Horseface since Denver didn't have a lot of cap space. PM really liked KC, RC & Clark, but he ( PM ) did not care much for Pioli. Again, PM was suppose to meet with the Chiefs after he had made his rounds. Clark really wanted PM , as well as did RC.

So Pioli jumped in first, long before he was suppose to by sending a starting offer that was about 3/4ths of what PM eventually got in Denver. Story was this really pissed PM & Archie off before any visit could be made anywhere since PM wanted to make his visits look like location and not the money( even though it had a very large part of it, which Tn offered about $4 million more ). PM didn't want to discuss any money with any team until the final visit was made, something Denver and Arizona didn't do until PM made his choice.

But the end story is PM and Horseface was just to close to start with, it was pretty much a done deal from the get go unless KC threw stupid money at him after the last visit ( that was promised to be KC's ). PM was also willing to let stupid money go by to play for Horseface ! That PM believed in himself enough that he could still play, thus driving the price up with any team, even from Horseface.

So PHM never happened because of our GM. PM wanted it to come down to 2 teams , KC & Denver, so an offer came first from Pioli. PM took his circus show to other cities to get his money. Yep, PM's goal was to pit KC & Denver against each other in a bidding war ( $$$$ ) since the AFC West Division was his only logical choice. PM was pretty much Denver bound from the get go.

So we had PM acting like a spoiled preppy schoolgirl, Pioli acting like he was an over anxious executive while Tom Condon was caught in the middle having loyalty to PM, some to the Chiefs and a lot to his pocket while having to wait to negotiate and Horseface coming out looking like a freaking saint just because of his friendship. Sounds like a soap opera ? I present to you PM and the 2012 Donks.


So Clark and Pioli did their usual damage control during the event and afterwards. What else could they do but spin it after Pioli shot themselves in the foot long before an official visit from PM ?
Were they going to tell the truth ?
Hey, I / We screwed it up ?
It was nothing but spin city for them:) claiming he wouldn't talk to them.

In reality, we were played, we really didn't have much of a chance, BTA, we will never know since Pioli killed that chance long before we even had an official visit.

So, are you bitter now since Pioli tried and screwed it up ?
Or was it by design ?

How would you have felt if PM carried it out to a KC vs Denver decision and KC had lost ?

Do you feel better that we ( KC ) didn't end up in a bidding war to only be used as a pawn ?

In reality, if we had of been in a bidding war with Denver, it was a no win situation for Clark & Pioli since we couldn't / didn't throw enough money at PM ( according to the fans ). So was this ( Pioli ) by design ?

I can't answer those questions, but the design part does have some traction to it now that it was a planned division rival bidding war.

Guess we will never know.

Now you know the rest of the story, The rest is history!


FTR, I'm off to watch the debate, later!

Your story would be more believable if you would have stated that Pisoli offered PM the league minimum for veterans

I can relate. if my sources was not solid, I would agree with you.

As Paul Harvey said,Now You Know The Rest Of The Story.

I thought the debates came at 700 pm.

Has your P.M. action figure turned brown yet?

When convoluted stories are needed in order to suggest that your GM doesn't suck impressive donkey dick, the mother****er really lives in Tijuana.

To me, it didn't matter if Brokeneck came here, I have always wanted to draft a franchise QB and turn him loose. I'm just letting go with some of the info I knew during and after.

So your comments are void.

Sorry, should have been more specific. Was talking to the thread starter..

I agree that Manning would be more of the same and that a true, young franchise QB is much needed.

They had more cap space than the Chiefs did.

I'm sure an "under the table" deal sealed it.

Elway said that during Peyton's visit in Denver he told Peyton what Denver's offer was going to be. And it was 5 years 95 million

Doncs got Manning and drafted a QB. Why didn't I see this the first time? Revisionist history.

KC ( Pioli )would not of.

Probably did, what are friends for ?

All I have is a source that had got 1st hand information from the parties involved. PM & TC could have kept things quiet until after it was done.

It was reported that TN had an offer of 98.6 mil, still wasn't enough to turn him home.

KC never got the chance to do a counter offer because the 1st one pissed him / them off. Remember, it wasn't about the money at first, but ..... ?

Was this Pioli's way t come back with a counter providing he got the last visit of a plan by design to piss them ff so he could keep Cassel ?

Or not to get into a bidding war to only lose to a division rival because of the close ties ?