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KCrockaholic 10-08-2012 11:21 AM
I've been following Nick Wright on twitter all morning. He thinks what Winston said was wrong. and he made a couple of very good points earlier.

It's not like the fans KNEW Cassel was down due to a concussion. We just saw him laying there, and knew that would be the only way we would make a switch because at that point we were forced to make the switch. Chiefs fans were applauding the potential end of the Cassel era. Not the fact that he was physically injured. Fans would have applauded louder if the switch had come in a completely healthy fashion.

Instead, it had to come this way. Look at the situation first.

Dayze 10-08-2012 11:23 AM
"Rather pay for a banner than buy tickets"

Window Licking Whiner 10-08-2012 11:35 AM
I've been tweeting the video to everyone I can. And I only just joined twitter this morning

FAX 10-08-2012 11:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gochiefs_va (Post 8991978)
I've been tweeting the video to everyone I can. And I only just joined twitter this morning
Great work, Mr. gochiefs_va. Your efforts have not gone unnoticed.

A cumulative effort will have effect. That's why we need each and every Planeteer to tweet their ass off.

FAX

Dayze 10-08-2012 11:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gochiefs_va (Post 8991978)
I've been tweeting the video to everyone I can. And I only just joined twitter this morning
Reppers.

BryanBusby 10-08-2012 11:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gochiefs_va (Post 8991978)
I've been tweeting the video to everyone I can. And I only just joined twitter this morning
Nobody in the media is going to watch the ****ing video, because if they did, there would be no story. Instead, ESPN is going to continue to be ****ing reeruned about it by choice because people will tune in for it.

jd1020 10-08-2012 11:49 AM
Look at Winston... First guy to leave the "huddle" when Cassel gets up to walk to the sideline. Classless bitch.

doomy3 10-08-2012 11:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KevB (Post 8991921)
I was sitting in the stands on the lower level. There was absolutely a vocal minority who cheered when it was apparent Cassel was down for the count. I actually remarked to my 10 year old that it wasn't right for some fans to cheer his injury to make a point to him. Were they cheering because he was hurt, or because it meant he'd be on the bench? I'm guessing the latter, but regardless it was bad form.

Charles had busted a nice run, and fans were cheering that play, as the video displayed. There was a delayed reaction to Cassel, as he was way behind the play and initially, he started to raise up as if he was going to drag himself to his feet. As he went back down and people brought their attention from Charles to Cassel, there was additional cheering. There's no doubt that happened. There is a cut in the video that excludes it. The vast majority of fans applauded when he was able to get to his feet and walk to the sidelines.

IMO, Winston went overboard. He shouldn't have called out all fans, even if he tried to correct himself later in the rant. That said, I understand why he was fired up about it.

Yep. It is so weird to me that some are trying to spin this otherwise. There was absolutely a noticeable applause when Cassel couldn't get up.

doomy3 10-08-2012 11:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 8991983)
Nobody in the media is going to watch the ****ing video, because if they did, there would be no story. Instead, ESPN is going to continue to be ****ing reeruned about it by choice because people will tune in for it.
Well that, and people in the media would probably realize that there is a cut out of the middle of the video that is what this entire thing is all about.

ChiTown 10-08-2012 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8992036)
Well that, and people in the media would probably realize that there is a cut out of the middle of the video that is what this entire thing is all about.
doomy, I was there as well, and if that happened like Winston said, I sure as hell didn't notice it. I would have ZERO reason to defend it, because I would never applaud an injury myself.

BryanBusby 10-08-2012 11:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8992036)
Well that, and people in the media would probably realize that there is a cut out of the middle of the video that is what this entire thing is all about.
If people were really excited Cassel was hurt, there would be no video at all.

DJ's left nut 10-08-2012 11:58 AM
I tweeted a reply to Scott VanPelt.

Mostly I have no idea how to actually 'tweet' a link to someone. Do you just put it in as your message, put a bunch of '@insertnameheres' and then #mediamobmentality ?

doomy3 10-08-2012 11:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 8992043)
doomy, I was there as well, and if that happened like Winston said, I sure as hell didn't notice it. I would have ZERO reason to defend it, because I would never applaud an injury myself.
The thing is, Winston is getting all the headlines, but Charles and Ngata also took shots at the fans. It definitely happened. Several on this board have even admitted to cheering him being down. I'm sure there was a large contingency who didn't even realize why everyone was cheering all of a sudden at a weird time.

FAX 10-08-2012 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8992028)
Yep. It is so weird to me that some are trying to spin this otherwise. There was absolutely a noticeable applause when Cassel couldn't get up.
Are you calling Mr. gblowfish a yellow-bellied, no-good liar, Mr. doomy3?

If so, come right out and say it.

FAX

doomy3 10-08-2012 11:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 8992045)
If people were really excited Cassel was hurt, there would be no video at all.
I'm not sure what this even means.

FAX 10-08-2012 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8992049)
I tweeted a reply to Scott VanPelt.

Mostly I have no idea how to actually 'tweet' a link to someone. Do you just put it in as your message, put a bunch of '@insertnameheres' and then #mediamobmentality ?
I had the same question as all this twittering is new to me, Mr. DJ's left nut. But all you have to do is throw that link in the tweeter and off it goes with the rest of your tweetle.

FAX

doomy3 10-08-2012 12:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8992051)
Are you calling Mr. gblowfish a yellow-bellied, no-good liar, Mr. doomy3?

If so, come right out and say it.

FAX
No, I'm saying he could fall into the group of people who didn't realize why people were cheering when they were. I was about 20 rows up in the lower level and people all around me were cheering because Cassel was down. Again, I don't blame them, but it definitely happened. And this would be a story no matter what stadium it happened in.

BigMeatballDave 10-08-2012 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8992028)
Yep. It is so weird to me that some are trying to spin this otherwise. There was absolutely a noticeable applause when Cassel couldn't get up.
How do you know that applause was not for Quinn?

I wasn't there, I'm simply asking a question.

BryanBusby 10-08-2012 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8992052)
I'm not sure what this even means.
It's not hard to figure out that there would be no video to show to try and disprove that Chiefs fans were cheering for a Matt Cassel injury if they were cheering for a Matt Cassel injury.

Cassel has been such a ****ing enigma to this franchise that people weren't going to stop cheering because he was hurt, if that was even the reason.

doomy3 10-08-2012 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8992060)
How do you know that applause was not for Quinn?

I wasn't there, I'm simply asking a question.
Quinn wasn't on the field yet. It happened pretty quickly.

Pass complete to Charles, fans start cheering and cheer when first down is announced.

People get up, and Cassel doesn't. Winston and others motion for trainers. Crowd cheers very loudly.

It takes a couple minutes and the cheering dies down.

Quinn enters as Cassel is walking off and there is a lot of cheering.

ChiTown 10-08-2012 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8992060)
How do you know that applause was not for Quinn?

I wasn't there, I'm simply asking a question.
That's how it was rolling in my section. Winston makes it sound like their was an uproar of applause over Cassel going down, and THAT was just not the case. There may have well been a small contingent of fans cheering Matt 's injury, but come on, that's not representative of the entire Stadium of fans - that's purely bullshit.

redfan 10-08-2012 12:04 PM
There is no question some people cheered the injury; I've seen too many people cop to it with pride.

I'm more interested in despite several reports to the contrary on the local news level, all I'm hearing at the nat'l level is "Those terrible KC fans".

They have already turned it on all of the fans.

BigMeatballDave 10-08-2012 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8992052)
I'm not sure what this even means.
I think it means, if this cheering of Cassel being injured is real, why post a video to refute it?

doomy3 10-08-2012 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 8992066)
It's not hard to figure out that there would be no video to show to try and disprove that Chiefs fans were cheering for a Matt Cassel injury if they were cheering for a Matt Cassel injury.

Cassel has been such a ****ing enigma to this franchise that people weren't going to stop cheering because he was hurt, if that was even the reason.
Not every single person in the stadium was cheering, no. The person who shot the video must have been one of those people. He must have taken the time to edit the video too to remove the block of time, so he probably wasn't cheering then either.

Richard_Cuckold 10-08-2012 12:06 PM
I got zero problem with what Winston said.

He was just sticking up for his buddy. WOuldnt you do the same thing in that situation?
If your friend got knocked the **** out and people were laughing/cheering about it? I Know I would be pissed too.

BryanBusby 10-08-2012 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by redhed (Post 8992071)
There is no question some people cheered the injury; I've seen too many people cop to it with pride.

I'm more interested in despite several reports to the contrary on the local news level, all I'm hearing at the nat'l level is "Those terrible KC fans".

They have already turned it on all of the fans.
I don't think anyone is arguing that there are people ****ing stupid enough to do it. But a few people don't equal out to an entire crowd or the mythical 65,000 to 70,000 people that Jaws claims were doing it.

If we're going to use a few morons to represent an entire fan base, than every ****ing fan base is bad.

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8992078)
Not every single person in the stadium was cheering, no. The person who shot the video must have been one of those people. He must have taken the time to edit the video too to remove the block of time, so he probably wasn't cheering then either.
Once again, if the crowd was excited that Cassel was hurt there would of been no ****ing video at all. You can't edit out all the video and still have something to show.

DeezNutz 10-08-2012 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8992068)
Quinn wasn't on the field yet. It happened pretty quickly.

Pass complete to Charles, fans start cheering and cheer when first down is announced.

People get up, and Cassel doesn't. Winston and others motion for trainers. Crowd cheers very loudly.

It takes a couple minutes and the cheering dies down.

Quinn enters as Cassel is walking off and there is a lot of cheering.
As chi and others have noted, this had to vary based on sections. Petro was also at the game, and the story he's telling does not match up with the bold, either.

patteeu 10-08-2012 12:07 PM
Banner for next home game: "Glad you're OK, Matt. Don't come back."

doomy3 10-08-2012 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8992086)
As chi and others have noted, this had to vary based on sections. Petro was also at the game, and the story he's telling does not match up with the bold, either.
I really don't understand it. ChiefsCountry was there and even equated it to being equal to when Arrowhead was rocking in the 90s when Cassel was down. I don't think there was any question at all, which is why it is so hard for me to understand how anyone could say otherwise.

And again, even though Winston is the only person getting play, there were other players who noticed it and spoke up as well.

FAX 10-08-2012 12:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8992068)
Quinn wasn't on the field yet. It happened pretty quickly.

Pass complete to Charles, fans start cheering and cheer when first down is announced.

People get up, and Cassel doesn't. Winston and others motion for trainers. Crowd cheers very loudly.

It takes a couple minutes and the cheering dies down.

Quinn enters as Cassel is walking off and there is a lot of cheering.
I've watched the video again. Assuming that you are correct and that a brief section was deleted and that was the part where Cassel begins to rise, then lays back down. Quinn can be seen both before and after the 12 second mark beginning to warm up. Reason and opportunity enough, had I been there, to express my joy at seeing another quarterback loosen up and begin to cheer Quinn on.

FAX

KevB 10-08-2012 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 8992070)
That's how it was rolling in my section. Winston makes it sound like their was an uproar of applause over Cassel going down, and THAT was just not the case. There may have well been a small contingent of fans cheering Matt 's injury, but come on, that's not representative of the entire Stadium of fans - that's purely bullshit.
There was absolutely, 100% a group of fans that cheered when they realized Cassel was down. People around me were talking about it, and as I said, I actually used it as an opportunity to talk to my kid about it. And no, it wasn't close to the entire fan base. I'd guess most didn't cheer at all. And I also don't think they were cheering that he was hurt so much as cheering that it meant he would be out and the backup in.

DeezNutz 10-08-2012 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8992091)
I really don't understand it. ChiefsCountry was there and even equated it to being equal to when Arrowhead was rocking in the 90s when Cassel was down. I don't think there was any question at all, which is why it is so hard for me to understand how anyone could say otherwise.

And again, even though Winston is the only person getting play, there were other players who noticed it and spoke up as well.
Yeah, this is pretty hard to discern. Good example about the subjective nature of history.

FAX 10-08-2012 12:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8992086)
As chi and others have noted, this had to vary based on sections. Petro was also at the game, and the story he's telling does not match up with the bold, either.
Don't forget Mr. gblowfish. His account squares with Mr. ChiTown's.

That, of course, is why Mr. doomy3 has called Mr. gblowfish a yellow-bellied, low-down, scum-wallowing liar.

FAX

ChiTown 10-08-2012 12:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8992091)
I really don't understand it. ChiefsCountry was there and even equated it to being equal to when Arrowhead was rocking in the 90s when Cassel was down. I don't think there was any question at all, which is why it is so hard for me to understand how anyone could say otherwise.
Because, it was a really close game (FOR ****ING ONCE, AT HOME! :D ), we just made a key conversion to a 1st down, and the crowd was REALLY into it. I don't think Cassel's injury had much to do with the emotion at the time, but that's my perception obviously, and not your's.

doomy3 10-08-2012 12:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 8992085)
Once again, if the crowd was excited that Cassel was hurt there would of been no ****ing video at all. You can't edit out all the video and still have something to show.
Of course you can. The part that was edited out was the part where the crowd cheered when Cassel couldn't get up. I have already stated that he was down for 2 minutes or whatever and that the crowd quit cheering as loudly at some point. The video just cuts from the crowd cheering for the play to when Cassel had been down for a bit. It skips over the reaction to the injury. It isn't that hard to understand.

BryanBusby 10-08-2012 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8992104)
Of course you can. The part that was edited out was the part where the crowd cheered when Cassel couldn't get up. I have already stated that he was down for 2 minutes or whatever and that the crowd quit cheering as loudly at some point. The video just cuts from the crowd cheering for the play to when Cassel had been down for a bit. It skips over the reaction to the injury. It isn't that hard to understand.
That crowd wasn't going to stop cheering for an injured Cassel.

Once again, that crowd as a whole or a majority of the crowd was not cheering. Nobody is saying all of the mythical 65,000 to 70,000 people there were not doing it, but it wasn't significant chunks or anything high enough to throw an entire fan base under the ****ing bus.

stonedstooge 10-08-2012 12:17 PM
Might as well give it up fellas. Jaws on ESPN just said something along the lines What's even worse is fans trying to justify the cheering. Can't win this battle, but doesn't mean we lose the war

KevB 10-08-2012 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8992104)
Of course you can. The part that was edited out was the part where the crowd cheered when Cassel couldn't get up. I have already stated that he was down for 2 minutes or whatever and that the crowd quit cheering as loudly at some point. The video just cuts from the crowd cheering for the play to when Cassel had been down for a bit. It skips over the reaction to the injury. It isn't that hard to understand.
Question I have is why is the video cut at all? Did they press stop on the record button? I really doubt it.

Iowanian 10-08-2012 12:21 PM
Ray Lewis was on the field yesterday, and he is responsible for the murder of human beings after a football game.


Football players murder people...............

doomy3 10-08-2012 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 8992132)
Question I have is why is the video cut at all? Did they press stop on the record button? I really doubt it.
Yeah, doesn't make much sense to me at all.

Chief_For_Life58 10-08-2012 12:32 PM
eric can suck on my big black somoan ashy penis...he doesnt know our hatred for caserole

Dayze 10-08-2012 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 8992191)
eric can suck on my big black somoan ashy penis...he doesnt know our hatred for caserole
LMAO

BigChiefFan 10-08-2012 12:55 PM
Oh noes, some fans booed. Nevermind the real story of the organization's committment to excrement.

Straight, No Chaser 10-08-2012 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8991387)
Guys ... we need to get this video in front of the media wonks who have "reported" that Chiefs fans are stupid, classless rednecks.

....
FAX

It's too late for that. After a scan of the various sports shows this morning Chief fans have know officially entered the realm of Philly & Raider fans.

ChiefsCountry 10-08-2012 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 8992091)
I really don't understand it. ChiefsCountry was there and even equated it to being equal to when Arrowhead was rocking in the 90s when Cassel was down. I don't think there was any question at all, which is why it is so hard for me to understand how anyone could say otherwise.

And again, even though Winston is the only person getting play, there were other players who noticed it and spoke up as well.
Here was my quote.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...&postcount=120
Should have been more clear, it wasn't nuts when Cassel was laying on the field. I was talking about when Quinn took over, to right about after the Houston strip of Flacco.

Tophawk36 10-08-2012 01:01 PM
anyone watch Outside the Lines? Antonio Pierce talked about how he has never seen fans cheer when a player gets hurt like this and they have to bring the cart out on the field. These self righteous ESPN guys haven't even watched the video of the incident and have no idea the hell they are talking about. It's pathetic how ESPN reporters who don't even know what happen are condemning Chiefs fans.

Iowanian 10-08-2012 01:03 PM
ESPN had to have an Intern tell them where Kansas City was located and how to pronounce it.

DeezNutz 10-08-2012 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Tophawk36 (Post 8992271)
anyone watch Outside the Lines? Antonio Pierce talked about how he has never seen fans cheer when a player gets hurt like this and they have to bring the cart out on the field. These self righteous ESPN guys haven't even watched the video of the incident and have no idea the hell they are talking about. It's pathetic how ESPN reporters who don't even know what happen are condemning Chiefs fans.
Yep. "Not even in Philly" except for that one time when Philly cheered a motionless coke head (Irvin), of course.

Chiefs Pantalones 10-08-2012 01:07 PM
Just talked to a friend of mine that was at the game and he said nobody was cheering that Cassel was injured. He said he, himself, didn't even know he was injured, he was cheering for the first down.

WhiteWhale 10-08-2012 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 8991623)
I think his pass protection has been awful. JMHO.
Winston has never been more than an average pass protector.

Cper's got pissed when I said that after signing him, but that's who he is. He's not a bad player, but fans 'round here acted like we just signed a 7 time probowler.

Omaha 10-08-2012 01:11 PM
**** Winston for starting all of this shit. Despite video to the contrary, we're going to have to hear about this shit for years. **** you, Mr. Winston. **** you very much.

the Talking Can 10-08-2012 01:11 PM
pearson ripping into winston...

WhiteWhale 10-08-2012 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Omaha (Post 8992311)
**** Winston for starting all of this shit. Despite video to the contrary, we're going to have to hear about this shit for years. **** you, Mr. Winston. **** you very much.
Yup. Nobody gives a **** if he corrects his claims on Twitter. In the audio tape that is being played he ****ing lies through his teeth claiming that the stadium let out some enormous roar from 70K at the sight of Cassel on the ground. THAT is what the media is driving into the ground.

Winston slandered his home fans, and can go **** himself. It's a goddamn lie.

Tophawk36 10-08-2012 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8992312)
pearson ripping into winston...
Petro ripped Winston to shreds also. KC talk radio is taking it to Winston for his gross misrepresentation of Chiefs fans. If Winston doesn't make a huge public apology I don't see how he can exist in this town. Right now I say f*** him I wish he would get the f*** off my team.

Mizzou_8541 10-08-2012 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tophawk36 (Post 8992336)
Petro ripped Winston to shreds also. KC talk radio is taking it to Winston for his gross misrepresentation of Chiefs fans. If Winston doesn't make a huge public apology I don't see how he can exist in this town. Right now I say f*** him I wish he would get the f*** off my team.
Danny Parkins didn't. At least the part I heard today. Said Winston was absolutely correct calling out the fans.

Priest31kc 10-08-2012 01:23 PM
Ross Tucker ‏@RossTuckerNFL
Eric Winston was right. Real question is WHY fans are like that. My take: http://bit.ly/SYhhD1

SMH...Degrading the fanbase and basically calling us stupid by saying we're brainwashed by sports radio & fantasy football & a bunch of other shit and that we're incapable of making up our own minds. What a dipshit.

DaneMcCloud 10-08-2012 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 8992275)
ESPN had to have an Intern tell them where Kansas City was located and how to pronounce it.
The Chiefs don't play in Kansas?

ChiTown 10-08-2012 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8992355)
The Chiefs don't play in Kansas?
:LOL:

Tophawk36 10-08-2012 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541 (Post 8992350)
Danny Parkins didn't. At least the part I heard today. Said Winston was absolutely correct calling out the fans.
Parkins is an idiot. Nick Wright even came on his show today and ripped Winston.

Priest31kc 10-08-2012 01:25 PM
Another horrible article by Mr. Jeff Pearlman: http://www.jeffpearlman.com/eric-win...n-kansas-city/

Chiefs Pantalones 10-08-2012 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8992355)
The Chiefs don't play in Kansas?
I work with reeruns like that here in AZ. "Who does Kansas play this weekend?" "Man, Kansas better cut Cassel, he's terrible."

I always correct them and they continue their stupidity the next time we discuss sports again.

I was wearing my KU hat and one of my millions of Chiefs shirts last week at the grocery store and this dude in line in front of me goes, "Did the Chiefs change their colors?" I just laughed and he looked at me weird. There's some dumb mother ****ers in this world.

Easy 6 10-08-2012 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 8992352)
Ross Tucker ‏@RossTuckerNFL
Eric Winston was right. Real question is WHY fans are like that. My take: http://bit.ly/SYhhD1

SMH...Degrading the fanbase and basically calling us stupid by saying we're brainwashed by sports radio & fantasy football & a bunch of other shit and that we're incapable of making up our own minds. What a dipshit.
**** you too, Tucker.

The fans are going to win this one, so stick it up your ass.

Mizzou_8541 10-08-2012 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 8992363)
Another horrible article by Mr. Jeff Pearlman: http://www.jeffpearlman.com/eric-win...n-kansas-city/
Ummm...just watched the clip in that article. After the initial cheer for the first down, the cheering decreases significantly. Once everyone realizes Cassel is hurt, it's pretty quiet...relatively anyway with 70,000 people packed in a stadium. People hear what they want to hear, I guess.

DaneMcCloud 10-08-2012 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 8992370)
I work with reeruns like that here in AZ. "Who does Kansas play this weekend?" "Man, Kansas better cut Cassel, he's terrible."

I always correct them and they continue their stupidity the next time we discuss sports again.

I was wearing my KU hat and one of my millions of Chiefs shirts last week at the grocery store and this dude in line in front of me goes, "Did the Chiefs change their colors?" I just laughed and he looked at me weird. There's some dumb mother ****ers in this world.
Eh, I don't attribute so much to "Dumb", just unaware. And seriously, it IT confusing to anyone that's never been to Kansas City as to why the Chiefs don't play in Kansas. I mean, it says it right there in the name: Kansas City Chiefs.

If the Rams played in St. Louis, Illinois, it would be just as confusing to people.

Titty Meat 10-08-2012 01:34 PM
Eric Winston can go **** himself

DaneMcCloud 10-08-2012 01:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8992389)
Eric Winston can go **** himself
Not any more.

Too many 'roids.

KevB 10-08-2012 01:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 8992363)
Another horrible article by Mr. Jeff Pearlman: http://www.jeffpearlman.com/eric-win...n-kansas-city/
The irony of these "journalists" who never played in the NFL now taking the players sides and sermonizing about their humanity is laugh out loud funny. Journalists have sold out players and coaches a thousand times worse and more often without giving one thought to their families, children, etc. And all to write the column that gets them promoted or gets more views on the net.

the Talking Can 10-08-2012 01:36 PM
so in romeo's presser he said, when asked why they ran so much, "would you rather lose 40-10?"


he basically said we had no chance of winning if we relied on our QB

Fish 10-08-2012 01:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 8992352)
Ross Tucker ‏@RossTuckerNFL
Eric Winston was right. Real question is WHY fans are like that. My take: http://bit.ly/SYhhD1

SMH...Degrading the fanbase and basically calling us stupid by saying we're brainwashed by sports radio & fantasy football & a bunch of other shit and that we're incapable of making up our own minds. What a dipshit.
Holy ****. This dumbass actually blames video games and fantasy football. That's what's wrong with fans today, according to this ****ing idiot...

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Let's start with video games. The proliferation of popular video games like the Madden franchise has only served to increase the disconnect that some fans have in terms of realizing that these professional football players are, in fact, human beings themselves. Because everything else in video games like Call of Duty and Grant Theft Auto is make believe and fictitious I think sometimes there are fans that almost forget that the players are real and not just characters in some video game they play.

Then there's fantasy football. Like video games, fantasy football has been a huge boon for the business of the NFL and, in turn, NFL players. Like video games, however, fantasy football has contributed to the propensity of fans who think of and thus treat NFL players like commodities. If you draft and trade and drop players on your fantasy team enough you really do begin to think of them in that way. Ultimately they just become numbers whether that is the jersey they wear or the statistics they generate. The human element is gone.

Chiefs Pantalones 10-08-2012 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8992398)
so in romeo's presser he said, when asked why they ran so much, "would you rather lose 40-10?"


he basically said we had no chance of winning if we relied on our QB
Someone should ask him why we don't make the f'ing change then? Maybe Pioli has Crennel's hands tied or something? It makes no sense. Any other team would've benched him by now.

Graystoke 10-08-2012 01:38 PM
What kills me is the media acting like the fanbase are all menopausel, on the rag and mean.
Tape proves we were not cheering for an injured Cassel.
We are just plain wore out from this inept franchise leadership top to bottom.

Tophawk36 10-08-2012 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8992398)
so in romeo's presser he said, when asked why they ran so much, "would you rather lose 40-10?"


he basically said we had no chance of winning if we relied on our QB
That made me laugh. JFC Romeo is a disaster. He is pimping how great it was to lose by 3. Would I rather lose 40-10? No I would rather win you idiot.

Titty Meat 10-08-2012 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8992391)
Not any more.

Too many 'roids.
No shit. This guy has been here what 4 months? 3 different interviews he talks about dying early. It's like he's 2pac or something.

DeezNutz 10-08-2012 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8992398)
so in romeo's presser he said, when asked why they ran so much, "would you rather lose 40-10?"


he basically said we had no chance of winning if we relied on our QB
Not one question about Cassel's terrible play. Not one question about why he didn't consider replacing him before the injury. Not one question about whether or not he has the authority to pull Pioli's bastard.

Chiefs Pantalones 10-08-2012 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8992415)
Not one question about Cassel's terrible play. Not one question about why he didn't consider replacing him before the injury. Not one question about whether or not he has the authority to pull Pioli's bastard.
The media in KC used to have balls and his name was Whitlock.

the Talking Can 10-08-2012 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8992415)
Not one question about Cassel's terrible play. Not one question about why he didn't consider replacing him before the injury. Not one question about whether or not he has the authority to pull Pioli's bastard.
how ****ing hard is it to ask a simple question about the QB???

"Matt Cassel had a 38 QB rating yesterday, and is the lowest rated QB in the league, how long will that be acceptable?"

the Talking Can 10-08-2012 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Tophawk36 (Post 8992407)
That made me laugh. JFC Romeo is a disaster. He is pimping how great it was to lose by 3. Would I rather lose 40-10? No I would rather win you idiot.
he seems very proud of not getting blown out...

sad or hilarious?

jd1020 10-08-2012 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8992426)
he seems very proud of not getting blown out...

sad or hilarious?
Both.

Tophawk36 10-08-2012 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8992426)
he seems very proud of not getting blown out...

sad or hilarious?
It's both. It's almost seems like he wants people to congratulate him for not getting blown out. It's a really odd how Crennel rationalizes his really terrible coaching job.

ChiTown 10-08-2012 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8992398)
so in romeo's presser he said, when asked why they ran so much, "would you rather lose 40-10?"


he basically said we had no chance of winning if we relied on our QB
I turned it off after that. That told me all I need to know about how ****ed up this Franchise really is.


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