DO NOT WANT ANYWAY....

He needs to go away...

Surprised? Hasn't Hunt been preaching continuity?

A new GM = A new HC = A new QB.

:Lin:

Carthon's a ****ing idiot

Algebra doesn't lie.

cHunt didn't do his part because anyone with a ****ing brain would have looked at New England's draft and free agency record during his time there and figured out all of the success had to do with Tom Brady and Bill Belichick, not Pioli.

Clark failed miserably and did not perform proper due diligence.

I can only hope he's learned his lesson.

The same Bill Polian that left the Buffalo Bills in shambles, never to recover?

The same Bill Polian that left the Carolina Panthers in shambles?

The same Bill Polian that left the Indianapolis Colts in shambles?

No ****ing thank you.

No, we weren't.

The short memories around here are quite amazing.

even Brian Billick gets it.

Seriously? Come on.

Yes it appears now it was a mistake but at the time he was valued by all to be the top GM in the business. Clark did his job.

Now if you are the only one who saw it differently, congratulations. I suggest you try to get in the business since you're smarter than everybody else.

The fact still remains that Clark hired the #1 guy at the time. It just didn't work out.

Shut the **** up, Dane.

Honestly.

You were all sunshine and daises around here, all the way through the first or second week of the season.

You were a full blown homer. You thought this was a playoff team.

LMAO

You're a ****ing idiot.

LMAO

Where have I heard this before? 2009, maybe?

Bullshit. The "Number One Guy" was and still is Eric DeCosta. Furthermore, anyone with a ****ing brain (which obviously, doesn't include YOU) would have known that Pioli was Peter Principled into his position.

You're a ****ing oxygen thief.

Yep. Most in the media that cover the NFL had the same take. Mort, Clayton, Scherfter, etc. were all saying that Clark did a great job in choosing a new GM.

Oh really? So, I wasn't right in 2009?

Just because I believed (and actually, still DO believe) that this team, flaws and all, has enough talent to win a playoff game means that my opinion of Pioli is invalidated?

Bullshit. I guess that means that YOUR opinion is invalidated since you were lapping up Pioli and everything he did from 2009-2011?

Who? East Coast biased sports writers?

Wow, those guys are NEVER wrong about anything.

You're dumb. Real dumb.

If they fire Pioli, then Crennel will be gone. 2 with one stone. Cassel will also be gone, no new GM worth a shite will want to continue with that mess.

We'll clean house. If he keeps Pioli and they fire Crennel and cut Cassel, I guess Pioli would be on notice, but that means we still have to deal with the probability that he'll **** up for another season or two before we flush him.

Come on Clark. Do the right thing. Start Quinn, and maybe even Stanzi the rest of the year. Fire Pioli and cut Cassel. Next year, draft a QB, get a decent HC and GM. We'll fill your ****ing stadium again.

Get. It. DONE.

I hear ya - but no, most everywhere. ( Clayton, Mort, Schefter to name a few) Most of the mags and talking heads endorsed it as well.

Well you know that's just crazy talk. I mean forget the actual experts who are involved in the business. Clark should just employ Dane as a consultant. I mean after all, you ask him and he'll tell you he has all the answers. ;)

I supported the regime in 2009, and the first half of 2010.

Then I turned on them and haven't gone back.

But YOU were walking around here saying we were going to win a playoff game. Own it.

I think he sees what happens with Brady Quinn before making a decison on Pioli. After all, Pioli did choose him too as competitin for Cassel :rolleyes: even though his intention was NOT to ever have to play him.

LOL!
Seriously, Dane is right alot of the time - not this time however...

:LOL: Are you including yourself?

Honestly, I wouldn't care on 2 conditions

1) Cut Cassel

2) draft a first round quarterback not named Landry Jones.

I'm pretty sure Jones is looking like a 3rd round pick at best right now.

Perfect! / Scooter

1) No more Gum Wrappers.
2) Hell with it...BAN GUM!

Link?

Here's what KC needs to do before they take the field next year

1) Fire Pioli
2) Fire Cassel
3) Fire RAC
4) Let Dorsey go. Has anyone missed him since he's been hurt? Nope
5) Draft a high energy pass rushing DL for Dorsey's spot
6) Spend the money to bring in a stud QB vet or take the long route and go get Geno Smith in the Draft (if KC is bad enough)
7) Bring in a stud HC.
8) Draft a Safety


Pioli stinks because Matt C. has been a disaster. Hiring and firing Haley was also a two times loser move. That being said the Chiefs are much more talented then when Scott got here. I don't even mind them letting Carr go. Dallas overpaid.

If KC could get a Veteran QB with 5 years left his career (somehow) combined with a great Coaching staff this team could contend right away. There's a lot of talent on this squad now. It just needs to keep getting better and be better coached.

OH, so the same thing we always do?

**** no.

Didn't know Dorsey was still on the team.

Sorry, but playing the whole "Miss me yet" thing to Carl Peterson is a mistake. It paints us out as contradicting ourselves. We cried for his firing for years, and then we got it, and now we regret it? No, we don't regret Carl's firing. We were never going to get a title under him.

We just regret that Pioli's been a nightmare, and want a new direction.

I'm with you on many points EXCEPT the your QB take - I'm hoping Quinn can be the guy for now and the near future. That will allow us to draft a STUD QB and groom him providing we get a new staff because I don't want thise IDIOTS anywhere near my young QBOTF. Then if he pans out, we can trade Quinn for picks.

Bobby Petrino is available to coach.

Considering the two biggest problems at One Arrowhead Drive are Clark and Fat Scott does that mean a murder suicide?

I'm actually one of the few who believes this.

LOL. That's what I was thinking. Leave it to this organization to F that decision up...

:facepalm:

But do you trust Pioli and RAC's staff to groom the QBOTF?

Are you implying Brady Quinn is not the QBOTF?

There are no stud vet QBs available. Teams don't let them leave

After the Chiefs clean house, they need to do everything in their power to draft Geno Smith. I don't give a **** whether or not it means giving up the entire 2013 draft and a first rounder in 2014, they need a Franchise QB.

Fortunately, I don't think that'll be necessary because I cannot envision a scenario in which the Chiefs are picking outside of the top three and at this point, likely number one overall.

Smith starts Day One. **** that "veteran QB" bullshit. Newton, Luck, Ryan, RGIII, etc. prove it isn't necessary in today's NFL.

The Patriots let Cassell leave. He exudes STUD.

I don't trust RAC to groom his ball hair.

I don't think Pioli would have any type of adverse affect on a QBOTF. As long as he's forced to draft Geno Smith, I'm fine. God knows he's shown loyalty to the starting QB.

If Clark forces Pioli to:

1. Re-sign Bowe.
2. Draft or trade up for Geno Smith.
3. Replace Crennel with someone outside the tree.
4. Cut Cassel.

Then I could stomach if Pioli sticks around. Sure, I want Eric DeCosta as much as the next guy, but I'm not going to sit here and pretend that we're going to get everything we want. I want the QB, I want the coach. Plenty of asshole GMs have won despite their personalities. You need the coach and you need the QB. The rest will fall into place.

I'm just not getting my hopes up that Pioli is gone.

Give me Geno Smith, and I can suffer through the rest. After all, what would Chiefs fans do without something to bitch about?


EDIT: Fixed for the pleasure of Pestilence.

I can envision a scenario where the Cleveland Browns exist.

and for the record...our 'scouts'...suck.


that is all

Eric DeCosta. Not Mike.

Maybe.

The Chiefs play the Browns this season, so it may be their only win and thus, the tie-breaker when it comes to the draft.

That's what I'm afraid of.

I'll take anyone with the last name DeCosta over Pioli, Alex.

Then the Chiefs would draft first, by virtue of Cleveland's win.

LOL mike decosta works a floor down from me in Procurement.

I mean that I'm afraid we will beat them.

Oh. I doubt it. Seriously.

Unless Brady Quinn turns into the second coming of Jim Plunkett, the Chiefs will be lucky to win another game this season.

LMAOLMAO

For me to regain any sort of hope or trust in Hunt he would have to:
A. Fire Pioli then hire a young hungry GM in his place.
B. Rid us of Cassel once and for all
C. Fire Crennel and Daboll
D. Hire a young, compenent HC, OC, AND DC (stop with the dual hat bs)
E. Draft the top QB in the class in April, no matter what the cost in picks.
F. Get rid of players that have been forced upon the Chiefs by bad decisions/poor scouting and players that don't fit our schemes.

And if he REALLY wants to show he's serious, sign some free agents like Cliff Avril, Jake Long, or Greg Jennings.

SPEND THE MONEY ON THE CHIEFS to build a better team. If money's the objective, I'm sure a 12-4 season and a deep push in the playoffs will make up for the money spent investing in solid players when Arrowhead is filled to capacity spending money on parking, beer, and hot dogs and you're selling merchandise faster than you can fill the shelves.

You want to win? Prove it. Spend the friggin money, this team is isn't good and we are consistantly under the salary cap by MILLIONS.

Hungry?

How about smart? Detailed? Experienced? Former regional scout. Former national scout. College scout. Pro personnel director.

Hungry? That's just silly.

How are his scouting skills?

Or Len Dawson.

If he's hungry, then there are bound to be candy wrappers.

And we can't have that, can we?

You know, the remainder of our schedule really isn't difficult. Quinn's already demonstrated that he can throw the ball down the field. I think Quinn can just be Quinn and we'll win some games. Probably just enough to **** our draft position.

Pretty much exactly what I think and posted. Cept QB, I would like to see them to take top QB in the draft, even if they have to do what Washington did to take RGIII. Otherwise, pretty much spot on.

If Todd Haley couldn't turn this ship around, what hope do we really have?

When and where?

He is Brodie Croyle, Cleveland Edition.

Pioli, as he should. But, he'll be on probation now I hope.

Yes, Hungry to win. It was a summary, I didn't feel the need to put a job ad in my post...

Mellinger said there will probably be a press conference during the bye week.

So...maybe Clark will speak?

They'll still split with Denver and Oakland

Are there any two less credible people than fescoe and maas?

Didn't fescoe just make up a report out of thin air about Quinn getting half the first team reps?

He just thinks its going to happen and is trying to land a guess so he can say he knew before anyone

Realistically, if this team were to split its division games and beat Cleveland, Colts, and Tampa, we'd be at 7-9. This really could happen if Quinn is even remotely close to Orton's performance last year.

And it scares me to death. We'll know after this week but if Quinn wins this game on the road, we can probably start waving goodbye to our Geno Smith dreams.

**** me.

Why wait until the bye week?

Unless they're making changes in the staff.

Got to agree, if he hasn't earned a starting spot in Cleveland, Denver, or KC, I'm pretty sure the choice for Miami to skip over him in 2007 was justified.

Yes there is...

Pioli and Crennel...

Pioli's ouster won't come down as a scheduled press conference two weeks ahead of time.

It will leak from the Chiefs' FO, with a press conference to follow and very little advance warning.

So if a really bad quarterback plays like an average QB we'll go 7-9?

LMAO

I think we'll win one division game, max.

SD and Denver will sweep us.

Does he fracture his labia every time he steps onto the field? Then he's not Brokie.

And he outperformed pretty much everything Casshole has done this season in a single drive. Only a stupid penalty on the midget (which didn't look like it would have impacted the outcome of the play) prevented a game-winning touchdown.

It's not like I'm a huge Quinn fan. No, I don't think he's the answer at QB. I just think he'll be better than Casshole, and if he plays out the season we'll win games Casshole would have lost. For better or worse.

BTW, do you think you do up a better red circle/slash for my Winston avatar? The paint thing looks amateurish.

That is my fear. No matter how Quinn does my heart wants Geno Smith. He can give us hope again. If we got a retread QB I don't want him being QBotf.

Wrong. Head to head is not a NFL draft tiebreaker.

Cassel gives us the best chance to get rid of Crennel and Pioli.

Any support for Quinn is direct support for Pioli and Crennel.