The fact that the Chiefs have kept Cassel starting is enough proof for me.

get a rope .....

Wow. :doh!:If true Pioli needs to be shown the door....YESTERDAY!

I just really have a hard time believing this at all.

I doubt that even RAC would accept Pioli dictating who starts on gameday.

I will give you McCluster, but Baldwin has a pretty high ceiling, IMO.

The sad truth is that Babb has no reason to say this if it weren't true. None. He's moved on.

Besides, it's probably not the entire game-day roster he's talking about ... just a few guys that Pioli wants to see on the field.

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He's a deep threat who hasn't caught a single deep ball this year. LMAO

Better than average chance he's a bust.

And Pioli is? And he doesn't even deny it.

You are Black Bob admit it!

He should have said it 3 years ago.

This was Crennel's only shot to be HC.

He's going to go along with it.

Cannot possibly evaluate a WR with Cassel as QB.

Is there a point to this post?

Especially a deep threat

The beard did not care.















Well maybe the beard did care I don't know?

Maybe he didn't know then. Or maybe he was giving Pioli the benefit of the doubt. Or maybe it was a non-issue at the time.

Whatever the reason he didn't mention this 3 years ago doesn't change the salient facts or whether it is true or not.

I'll say this much, Pioli behaves a whole lot more like Darth Liberace The Elder than I thought anyone ever could. It is a believable scenario.

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Um, duh?

I have grown tired of Pioli, but at the same time don't care for all the heresy. While I agree that this sounds believable and it would help explain the Haley situation, the fact is that there is no proof given in this tweet.

Whitlock didn't have any proof of what he was saying either, but it seems pretty evidently true.

That's enough proof for me to believe that Pioli has forced the Chiefs coaches to continue to start Cassel. It's not exactly proof that he controls the entire roster lineup.

He has obviously has been slow to learn the finer details (like running precise routes)of being a great WR in the NFL. That does not mean he will not become a good NFL WR. C'mon, man. Your whole schtick is getting old. I agree with you on Cassel. But McCluster and Baldwin haven't been given much of a chance by you.

If he controls one thing, he controls it all.

I thought it was obvious from day one, mainly with Cassel.

I have said it several times, but RAC had a sudden orchestrated change of heart about Cassel once he got the job.

Babb has no idea if Pioli controls any aspect of the lineup with RC. What's the point of raising the story that Pioli controlled the game day roster with Haley years ago? Wouldn't it have been much more relevant to talk about when Haley was the head coach?

Orton was so obviously a better QB. We could have cut Cassel and signed Orton as an interim QB. Pioli completely just threw the season away by bringing Cassel back, but I guess he convinced CHunt that Cassel was a stud, and Haley was the whole problem. I wonder what CHunt thinks now.

Provides an insight into questions about why RAC has seemingly refused to pull Cassel, despite having to run a 1930s-style offense.

Could have been giving Pioli a big "**** you", too.

I thinking Crennel is pissed, but he won't rock the ship like Haley.

I agree that all of this sure adds up to this BS. :banghead:

If this is all true than I will reevaluate the Haley situation but Haley should have come forward with all this

If this is true, he should be fired immediately. I don't think I've ever heard of a GM that was so insecure and intrusive, that he demands control over the gameday lineup. That mother****er is so desperate to show that he's a football genius. Its ****ing pathetic. :cuss:

come forward with information about his old job he doesnt care about anymore and RISK LOSING MILLIONS?

why do you think he kept quiet.

For you Scott.

It's a certainty that Haley signed a confidentiality agreement. If he released this information immediately, he would have been in breach of contract and not entitled to the remainder of money on his contract.

He has a wife and five daughters. Do you really think that he'd break his silence?

It seems pretty obvious ...

In last Sunday's game, we had no actual, normal quarterback position on the field. We had a handoff and occasional turnover specialist. It sponsored attention because that particular game-plan was the most shocking thing to take place on a football field since 1972 when Don McLean mooned the crowd during the halftime show.

So, here's how it probably went down ...

Babb sees the game and realizes (like everyone else in the world with TV reception) there's no point for Cassel to even be on the field since they're not going to throw a single pass all day. Then he remembers that Pioli used to demand that Haley play Cassel as well as other selected Pioli picks as starters. Then he thinks to himself, "Hmmm, I wonder if Pioli is forcing Roleo to start and play Cassel?" Then he says to himself, "I think I'll post a tweeter to that effect".

Something like that.

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What exactly did Haley do to rock the boat?

Seeing the Tunechi perform with Flowers? The beard? Palko? The Meadowlands Meltdown?

Yep. I've recently made discreet inquiries with several Chiefs ex-employees and it's pretty clear that they all signed confidentiality docs. It's funny to watch them try to answer then ... reconsider.

There's no chance that anyone goes to work for the Chiefs without signing a confidentiality agreement. None.

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Don't get me wrong, I like what he's saying but isn't this the same Kent Babb that most claim is an ignorant mouth breather?

That would be Adam Teicher

Washington Post suggests that Babb can use his nose.

I can't keep track, first we all love Whitlock and now Babb....LOL!

Wonder why Peyton Manning wanted nothing to do with KC...:hmmm:

I thought there was something wrong with you after reading some of your posts, but this one is just psycho. You really are a nut.

There is no PROOF, because Arrowhead is locked down like a military compound. :banghead: The only proof I need is in the consistent shitty results on teh field and a dumbass quarterback, who everyone knows sucks ass... except the team.

Whoever it is could not control a jucu JV game.

That's why the Browns didn't hire him. He wanted "control only God would demand" according to reports.

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Kendrick Lewis will start

What does it mean?

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Double rainbow

Oh yeah, you can BET he had piolis number, i'm sure he'd have rather gouged out his eye with a melon baller than work for him.

RAC is what 67 yrs old or some shit?

He's been a DC his whole NFL career and has won multiple SB's. He really has nothing to coach for.

Pioli is probably a close friend of his....I just REALLY doubt he'd take this job knowing that he'd have to answer to Pioli when it comes to gameday starters.

I could be wrong...but it would take a REAL asshole of a GM to force that on a HC...esp one who's a friend.

Who knows....maybe Pioli will only hire "yes" men.

You've got this backwards. It takes a real pal to give a guy millions of dollars to be a head coach when he has no other chance of ever being a head coach again. Well, not really, if the guy doing the hiring has no other real choices.

It worked in money ball

That movie greatly exaggerated facts, if not outright changed history, in order to make the film far more dramatic.

I doubt it stops at the players.

Does anyone really believe that Todd Haley wanted to bring in Charlie Weis to run his offense? I highly doubt it considering each of their personalities and ego.

Please Clark. Sell the ****ing team.

You mean because practically NOWHERE in the movie do they ever mention Mark Mulder, Barry Zito or Tim Hudson?

Moneyball would have you believe that Scott Hatteberg and his impressive on-base percentage is what led the A's to all those division titles. I'm thinking that having three stud pitchers in the rotation didn't hurt.

The book was far better than the movie.

I was joking but Scottie already completed his money ball. He took a POS QB with a broke dick OLB and won the division.

This.

Plus, Howe was right -- Pena was better than Hatteberg.

"OMG LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OAKLAND!!!!" They didn't win shit. Soooo ****ing lame of a movie.

Not only that but Billy Beane was an absolutely idiot for not taking $12 million to become the GM of the Red Sox.

Dummy.

I dont remember if it was the book (good book btw) or the movie but he says at one point that he made a decision based solely on money once in his life and he was never going to make that mistake again.

Still a dummy tho.

So Pioli is a poor mans Jerry Jones too eh?

Why? In Boston if you don't win your gone. In Oakland he'll never get fired and make up the money he lost by not going to Boston.

He would have won in Boston.

And if he hadn't, he'd have a shit ton of money AND the fact that no one had one in Boston for 100 years behind him.

Plus, who doesn't want to play on the biggest stage?

And FWIW, have you ever BEEN to Oakland and/or the Oakland Coliseum?

He's now a part owner in OAK, so I'd say that his decision wasn't so bad, especially thinking long-term.

What's his percentage of ownership? I can't find it. I'd be shocked if it were more than 10%.

Yeah, don't know. All I can find is "minority owner" bullshit, too. But let's say it's 10 percent. Bare minimum, OAK is making $20M per year. Not a bad little yearly return.

Ah yes Oakland. The one team whos owner is worse than Glass or Hunt.

Pioli just doesn't want someone else to out shine his boy Cassell that's the bottom line. @63mill QB he hand picked its live or die with him.

Haley would have had us in a championship game or superbowl by now if we had a qb.

and you know he would have had one here in KC seasons ago had Pioli allowed it.

The irony in this is that so many anti haley fans are the same ones calling for a 1st rate QB.

LoLz, The Third Reich lives on! Heil!

I kind of liked Haley, as he held the players accountable for their actions! No doubt, he made some rookie coaching mistakes, but if given another head coaching position in the future, Im encouraged he would be successful!

I stated this last year multiple times. He was trying to get fired.

An absentee owner is one plausible explanation of how such a thing could happen...

No ****ing way

Cassel and Haley were not a good match. - But really who is?

He went from a HOF QB in Warner to a shit eating ****tard in Cassel. Hell his father came out and said Cassel was nothing but average...and I bet he was just being nice...get that guy off record and I bet he'd bath mouth the hell out of Cassel's game.

I don't agree with the way Haley treated the short offseason due to the NFL lockout and playing starters in the 4 pre-season game in the 4th qtr was criminally stupid. There are some players that had come out and said the atmosphere is better without Haley, but was Haley the problem - or was it Pioli and their releationship or lack there of? Haley wasn't a good match but I think he could have been a good coach.

I did like how he had the ****in balls to go for it on 4th down a lot.

120 million total contract amount for Tyson Jackson and Matt Cassel?

Really?

For two guys that will be cut after this season...

If I was Clark, I'd be pissed.

Not after Poe started over Powe in this preseason there wasn't.

I had my thoughts about this very thing, but Poe over Powe was a clear indicator that Pioli was actively controlling/showcasing his top draft picks.

It makes you wonder if Baldwin was a Haley influenced pick versus Pioli's choice. I think Haley wanted to create another Fitz/Bolden scenario, while the "Patriot way" never really gave two shits about wideouts.