Plus I thought he looked halfway decent in his first preseason as a rookie. People say "well he was playing against second and third string" which is true, but he was also playing with second and third string teammates. I say start him. So ****ing what if he sucks. He probably will, but who really gives a shit at this point. Worst case scenario - he gets his dick knocked in the dirt all day and looks like an idiot in front of America. At least he'll earn a little bit of the money hes been paid to do nothing so far.

Also, and this is a big one...I'm tired of looking at Matt Cassel's stupid face.

2011 Palko = 6 starts, 8 turnovers
2012 Cassel = 6 starts, 18 turnovers

You are probably right...but until I get to see my boy playing with the starters in a real NFL game, I'm gonna hold out hope for him because I have seen him play some damn good football.

At this point though, I would almost be pissed if he came in and won a few meaningless games for us and dropped us from the top 3 picks in the process.

That would put him in the same category as Hitler, Cassel, the kicker that shall remain nameless and Osama bin laden.

That means that Cassel is better, right?

I can tell you all one thing. This season and last seasons offensive "efforts" are making Weis look like a ****ing genius.

Where would we have picked if Orton didn't win those 2 games and Dexter didn't catch that hail Mary against Chicago last year?...****ing McCluster caught the winning td against Denver, too didn't he...shit...and then there was the blshit comeback against Indy...

That would have made us 2-14 right?

We got raped out of our chance at RG3, didn't we?

**** me.

What would it hurt to get the guy some live snaps?

Yep, but all those true fans out there wanted us to win baby! Win at all costs! You play to win the mother ****ing game! It was all soooo worth it, because **** RG3. Who needs him? "There's no guarantee that Luck or RG3 will be good guys!" :mad:

You saw him play "damn good football" as defined in Iowa Hawkeyes football terms.

Stanzi is not an NFL QB. He is worse than Brodie Croyle.

I agree that the Chiefs should be playing Stanzi... he is one of only two QBs in the league (Quinn being the other) who is WORSE than Cassel and will ensure the Chiefs don't sneak a win the rest of the season and secure the #1 overall pick in the draft.

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I say why the **** not. Who cares if you get your ass kicked worse

That's bullshit.

Look at Iowa win loss record in the surrounding years without Stanzi and with him or the record in the few games he missed due to injury.

Go watch any of the YouTube videos on the guy and tell me he didn't make NFL throws against bigtime schools. When they played ranked teams, he stepped up damn near every time and won the games.

Oh well...time will tell and to this point I look to be completely wrong about the kid and I hope that continues so we get Geno Smith and don't get stuck with Tony Romo 2.

I'm telling you, man, letting Orton go when he did, knowing where he'd likely go, may have been a genius move on Elway's part.

I have no doubts. That horse faced son of a bitch used car salesman ****ed us again. I have no doubts that he did some underhanded shit to get Peyton to listen to Denver before he threw our name in the hat, too.

I was told during that span of time that KC tried EVERYRHING to try and bring Peyton in, but that he didn't have any desire to compete between division rivals for his services because he didn't want his medical records released to both division teams and that was a big part of why KC got shunned.

Elway knew he had to get Peyton if he was gonna have a chance over the next few years and I still think he and drunky offered Peyton other under the table benefits to get him to serious listen to their offer...I still think Manning would have made KC a superbowl contender...knowing full well how this season has played out thus far.

Don't forget the fumbled snap of Mr. Rivers.

It's sad that 7-9 was truly a miracle season for us.

Why can't everyone just agree that they should play Stanzi already? Even the haters of Stanzi - let him play so at least everyone will shut up about him finally.

Sure, go ahead and play Ricky Cassel. Why not.

1-15 and we draft Andrew Luck if it weren't for our own "good luck?"

In the words of that bitch from white men can't jump:

Because sometimes when you win, you really lose and sometimes when you lose...you really win"

**** the 2011-2012 Chiefs and meaningless wins.

Oh, and **** Pawnmower and every post he ever made defending Cassel and Clowning those of us that wanted to suck for luck.

You would think a guy that claims to be some big chess freak would understand the concept of sacrificing some pawns and a rook to get checkmate in place.

Oops

I hope Stanzi gets released.. then trashes us. He's got talent, needs some good coaching.

Cuz it's like when you get yourself a high priced hooker, you use and abuse that shit for every second you got it

When you've scored 2 TD's in over 40 drives, you can't afford to take risks!!!!!

**** it, I've got nothing.

exactly. that's why he needs to play. also to cement the ineptitude of pioli's qb knowledge.

LMAOLMAO

no, he's totally terrible.

The only reason Pioli drafted him is because Pioli and Ferentz are buttbuddies.

The reason he doesn't play is because he's terrible. Haley knew it, Crennel knows it, and we know.

Remember when Bob Gretz or whoever asked Haley last year 'Why is Tyler Palko your backup'? or 'Why is Palko starting?' and Haley hung his head a little and sighed and goes 'I don't know.'?? What he meant to say was 'It's either him or Ricky Stanzi. And Ricky Stanzi sucks worse than Tyler Palko. I have nothing but shit QBs on my roster, my best shitty QB is hurt and the GM is a soulless prick who wouldn't know talent if Springsteen, McCartney and Elton John were having a songwriting contest in the living room. The owner lives in Dallas, and I've done all I can by motivating Derrick Johnson, D-Bowe, Jamal Charles, and the rest of Carl Peterson's talented leftovers into attaining at least some of their potential....but I can't do anything with these shit quarterbacks.'

That's what he meant to say.



1-15 would be in the bag.

I wonder what overrated lineman from LSU is coming out in the draft?? We sure could use another one of those. Especially at #1 overall $$...

that has already been established without putting Stanzi out there.

Behind this OL, not even Peyton Manning would have a chance.

LMAO

What happens if the "chosen one" Mr. Smith comes out next year and plays exactly like Stanzi did, in the combined half of a preseason game with the back-ups?

Will he be shitty and cast aside also?

This is assuming we draft him, of course.

Why would he be playing a "combined half of a preseason game with the back-ups"?

I'm just making the scenario the same. That's all that Stanzi has seen and people say he's the worst since Cassel, so what if Geno came out and did the same thing?

It isn't the same scenario. One is a first rounder who's going to start immediately. The other is Ricky Stanzi.

This....

There are no guarantees in football, answer the question.

You invest in a 1st rd QB, you give him every opportunity to succeed or fail..

You dont invest in some 5th round garbage in hopes of "finding a diamond in the rough" or some other bullshit phrase..

Its not even a discussion...

You're being ridiculous.

This is truth.

I'm one of Stanzis biggest supporters and even I would rather see a guy with Geno Smiths upside starting over him.

It's not even close, really.

Geno Smith is WAY overrated - Vince Young, mk 2013

He would fare marginally better than Stanzi on sheer talent alone, but just barely.

There are no true Franchise QBs coming out this year - this is the worst year possible to be in this position. Geno Smith is NOT the answer

This team needs a complete overhaul, starting with the GM. One QB cannot fix this mess.

Cmon man...Stanzi has trouble with the deep ball, has inconsistent accuracy, makes questionable decisions at times and wasn't looked at by evaluators as a starter. Sucks, but it's true.

Guys like Stanzi only get a chance when other options are exhausted...no matter how much some of us don't want to believe that. It's politics.

Guys like Geno, Barkley and others are handed a starting job and they have to lose it by playing poorly for multiple years. It's all about upside and how many things the quarterback can do to help a team win and there are 3 guys in this upcoming draft that I would rather have starting over Stanzi and I have bought into Stanzi.

There are several QB's coming out that will have decent NFL careers. Its not the worst year ever for QB's...

There are franchise QB's in this draft.

That's the issue- we've been in this position for ten years. Taking a QB in the first round is the only sane thing to do at this point.

Obviously another BlackBob mult. The dumbassery is unmistakable.

Ryan Leaf, Brady Quinn, Blaine Gabbert....and many other first round busts. Being first round doesn't mean anything. Tom Brady (yes an anomoly) was 6th round.

:clap:

Not Geno Smith.

And forgive me for being leery of any USC qb named Matt or Mark, gnome saine??

:eek: I did not know this... Thank you for this insight.

ROFL The idiots never stop.

I don't know why people are so fixated on ideas like "Let's see what Stanzi has ..." or "He couldn't be any worse ...".

The fact is that it doesn't matter. You don't play Stanzi in GT in order to evaluate his skills. The reality is that he's either our #2 or #3 Suck Ass Doofus (depending on the current position of Quinn's brain relative to his skull).

You put Stanzi in because your emergency backup could use the reps. You also eliminate the possibility that your #1 Suck Ass Doofus is injured again.

It's completely asinine to keep playing #1 Suck Ass Doofus in those situations. Just as it's asinine for Roleo to refuse to name his emergency Suck Ass Doofus out of concern that it would give our opponents an advantage. It's stupid.

FAX

thats right, you never do....your answer shows you are an idiot

really? No shit? did not know that:eek:

That would make him the busiest gopher in all the NFL. Nice...

Go put your helmet back on, Corky.

Yeah, ok and Brees was a 2nd rounder, Montana went in the 3rd...

But I'd say it's early to call Gabbert a bust, and to be fair, Brady Quinn hasn't really ever been in any kind of decent situation; he's had 13 starts on shit teams - Troy Aikman looked like dogshit when the Cowboys went 1-15 in his first year as a starter...

I don't know if ANY qb can 'succeed' on this team with the roster and chemistry displayed. Pioli needs to go before anything happens. Projection in a QB with Pioli still calling the shots just pisses me off more - a self-perpetuating cycle.

STFU BlackBob3

agree, the point I was making to the dumb asses is that his claim that because he is a first rounder, he will start and make a difference. That isn't necessarily so...especially if Pioli is picking.

I can't think of any QB who would come to this clown circus.

jesus god....black boob?

:rolleyes:

No, because we'll pick a QB NUMBER ONE OVERALL only to sit him on the bench.

You're a freaking moron.

and you trust pioli's ability to draft a qb? we know who the moron is now. thanks for clarifying

DIE in an AIDS infested fire.

JFC.

What's with these dumbass n00bs lately?

There's absolutely no way Pioli is the GM of the Chiefs in 2013.

But to answer your question, not a chance in hell.

and the answer to the question "how stupid do you have to be to think Pioli survives a 1-15 season" has been answered at last.

I hope you are right about that Dane

Honestly if he isn't right about that, I might try and get an apprenticeship with the drafturbators and seek a position with the high council of hatred.

BlackBob even insinuated that this driving wheel pis is his mult, too. Said something about his other account having an avatar that would be hard to draw. It's like corky to the tenth power.

Since I am on pawnsmokers ignore list, can someone ask him a question for me...or just quote this post so he is forced to see it...

If you are such a good Chess player, how can you NOT understand the simple concept that the NFL is a chess match and that this season is like sacrificing a couple pawns and a bishop to get the opposing queen and king in compromising positions?

You call us "traitors" for doing nothing more than emphasizing the need to set up moves ahead of time to have the best chance to actually win a game.

What you think is that it would be worthwhile to play a chess match without either rook, one bishop and no queen against an opponent with a full arsenal and an extra queen.

Hey Pawnsmoker answer Boss's question.

He doesn't need to answer.

He already stated in another thread that he's had it with this regime.

He's one of us now. :evil:

That has NOTHING to do with my question, but thanks anyway.

Either you are an ignorant twat without a life, your mother ate lead paint chips as a child, or your father is your uncle.

Probably all three, when I think about it.

I hate your mother for not aborting your fetus.

I hope they do play Stanzi and he stinks up the joint so these hawkeyebators can STFU once and for all. By the way your golden boy Moeaki hasn't done shit since coming back from injury.

True Fan is True.

I don't think a single one of the 'ACL 3' is fully recovered...but Moeaki was never gonna make people forget about Gonzalez, not even before his 5th major knee injury.

Clark and the Hunt Family can't possibly retain Pioli, if for the P.R. factor alone.

Everyone media outlet, including the NFL Network anchors and reporters themselves, have made mention of Pioli's bad drafts and personnel decisions, not to mention the failure of Matt Cassel.

Clark HAS to make a change, if for pride in the family name, alone.

He had broken bones at Iowa...not knee injuries or ligament damage.

Go fist your grandmother.

This Deal is....

wait for it...

DONE.

Actually his elbow injury was an "all of the above" injury. Ligaments, tendons, bones...it was one of the worst injuries I've ever seen...

Your question was predicated on the fact he referred to us as "traitors". He obviously no longer feels that way.

So answering your question is moot.

Through all of that I still didn't see an answer. I believe that the same people on here sucking off just about any QB that we could take in the first round (excluding the one we already have) will be ready to throw he ass overboard with the first couple of int's.

This place doesn't have the patience to develop a QB and it is being proven with the comments about Quinn and Stanzi. They both may be the worst Qb's since Cassel, but how will we know if we don't give them a shot and by a shot I mean more than two games or more that a half in the preseason.

I was responding to his claim that it was Moeakis 5th knee injury.
Just because he is ok with a regime change, doesn't mean he is ok with losing the games necessary to do this the right way.

That's clearly the part I was asking about.

I want to hear Pawn say he is openly rooting for losses because that is the only move in this chess match that has a chance to end with a check mate.

You are making up shit to fit your agenda...