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Sorter 11-03-2012 06:04 PM

I'm starting to get sold on Kelly.

PunkinDrublic 11-03-2012 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9080471)
**** Gruden.

He only plays veterans, has never developed anyone on either side of the ball and ran Tampa Bay into the ground.

I'd accept him running the Chiefs into the ground if he brought them a Super Bowl first. But yeah I'm not too familiar with how he handled personel.

Sorter 11-03-2012 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 9080521)
But yeah I'm not too familiar with how he handled personel.

Like a moron.

Bowser 11-03-2012 06:17 PM

It will be Brad Seely....

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He has coached in the NFL for 22 seasons, 10 of which were spent as the special teams coach under Bill Belichick in New England.

Sorter 11-03-2012 06:26 PM

Oregon up 34-17 with 5 min left in the 1st half...

Bowser 11-03-2012 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9080582)
Oregon up 34-17 with 5 min left in the 1st half...

That Oregon offense has a crazy amount of speed.

Sorter 11-03-2012 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9080594)
That Oregon offense has a crazy amount of speed.

Me gusta speed.

jspchief 11-03-2012 06:56 PM

I like what it says about Kelly running good practices. More then ever I'm convinced that winning consistently in the NFL is about preparation and execution, not Xs and Os.

My concern with Kelly would be surrounding staff. He has no NFL connections, and I'm not even sure of his NCAA connections. I want a HC that builds his own staff so he's not forced into working with a stranger that the GM picked. Do we really want a defensive staff made up of former New Hampshire coaches?

-King- 11-03-2012 07:34 PM

Say no to Perry Fewell.

-King- 11-03-2012 07:38 PM

On that list, my favorite candidate is Ray Horton. Damn good defensive coordinator and would bring some much needed toughness to the team.

AussieChiefsFan 11-03-2012 07:39 PM

What does everyone think about Kevin Greene from Green Bay?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Greene
http://www.packers.com/team/coaches/...b-923ec23eb933

whoman69 11-03-2012 07:40 PM

Of that list I would favor Horton. I would have to know about their leadership qualities, which is the most important thing for an HC. The scheme is usually left to the coordinators, but if he can pass the scheme along to someone that will coordinate it, it might be a plus. IMO we need our D to be more agressive.

milkman 11-03-2012 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 9080834)
IMO we need our D to be more agressive.

Ya think?

SAUTO 11-03-2012 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9080832)

Not sure I could take anyone who worked for the wwf seriously
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rtmike 11-03-2012 07:52 PM

I apologize if it's already been mentioned. I read the 1st page & didn't see it.

Chip Kelly said last year the reason he turned down Tampon Bay is he had unfinished work to do at Oregon. He said he's not going anywhere until he wins a National Title.

That's kind of a big thing up here. It's a double edged sword for the locals. They'll lose their coach but have a title.

lcarus 11-03-2012 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9080032)
I'd be happy with Chip Kelly. Plus if we did want to go the Geno route, Chip Kelly would be the perfect fit.

Chip/Geno 2013!!!

FloridaMan88 11-03-2012 08:06 PM

Kyle Shanahan + a QB in round #1

I don't understand why Chip Kelly is such a hot NFL prospect. This reeks of Steve Spurrier 10 years ago. Kelly doesn't run an NFL-style offense and doesn't have any experience or connection to the NFL.

RealSNR 11-03-2012 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9080916)
Kyle Shanahan + a QB in round #1

I don't understand why Chip Kelly is such a hot NFL prospect. This reeks of Steve Spurrier 10 years ago. Kelly doesn't run an NFL-style offense and doesn't have any experience or connection to the NFL.

Ah, I KNEW Shanahan was a suspicious hire.

Thanks for confirming my theory that Shanahan isn't HC material.

RealSNR 11-03-2012 08:41 PM

Also, what kind of NFL coaching connections does Jim Harbaugh have? He spent 2 years with the Raiders as an assistant. That's it.

Chip Kelly is smart enough that he can find coaches. For instance, I have no doubt he would keep a lot of the talented guys currently on this staff like Emmitt Thomas

RealSNR 11-03-2012 08:44 PM

I'm sure Harbaugh used his connections as a player to raid the former coaching staffs of Bobby Ross, Kevin Gilbride, and Mike Riley, right?

DaneMcCloud 11-03-2012 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9080916)
Kyle Shanahan + a QB in round #1

I don't understand why Chip Kelly is such a hot NFL prospect. This reeks of Steve Spurrier 10 years ago. Kelly doesn't run an NFL-style offense and doesn't have any experience or connection to the NFL.

Yeah, I hope the Chiefs hire a 32 year old head coach who's only gained notoriety through nepotism.

Great plan.

J Diddy 11-03-2012 08:56 PM

I don't want a coach named Chip or Perry. We've had a Romeo, that's feminine enough for me.

DaneMcCloud 11-03-2012 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9081044)
Chip Kelly is smart enough that he can find coaches. For instance, I have no doubt he would keep a lot of the talented guys currently on this staff like Emmitt Thomas

I sincerely doubt it. Plus, Thomas is 70 years old and his secondaries have ****ing sucked ass.

IF the Chiefs clean house, no familiar names will exist. And they shouldn't.

Bewbies 11-03-2012 09:11 PM

Agree. They have to fire everybody involved in this mess.

jspchief 11-03-2012 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9081055)
I'm sure Harbaugh used his connections as a player to raid the former coaching staffs of Bobby Ross, Kevin Gilbride, and Mike Riley, right?

Don't be a spaz. Harbaugh brought his 2 coordinators from Stanford. But both of those guys have long NFL coaching resumes. Hell, Harbaugh himself had the least NFL coaching experience of that Stanford staff, but he obviously played.

By comparison, Kelly's entire staff is made up of career college coaches. In fact, they are mostly Oregon holdovers and retreads. He didn't even build the staff.

Harbaugh and Kelly couldn't be less comparable.

Chief Roundup 11-03-2012 10:12 PM

No trying to pick anyone in particular but there is a part of me that likes the idea of a special teams coordinator as a HC. They are use to working for both the offense and the defense. They are not completely tied to either side of the ball. Special Teams are important in making a shorter field for the offense and also pinning the opponent deep for the defense. A good special teams unit makes it easier for both the other squads.

KCDC 11-03-2012 10:23 PM

I'd vote for Chip Kelly.

I want no more Bellicheck disciples and no coaches son. Kyle Shanahan was enamored with Rex Grossman at QB last year and ran a very conservative offense. He'd probably like Cassell as his QB ... but for the fact that he has seen a real franchise QB this year in RG III.

FloridaMan88 11-03-2012 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9081044)
Also, what kind of NFL coaching connections does Jim Harbaugh have? He spent 2 years with the Raiders as an assistant. That's it.

Chip Kelly is smart enough that he can find coaches. For instance, I have no doubt he would keep a lot of the talented guys currently on this staff like Emmitt Thomas

Harbaugh played in the NFL... Chip Kelly has never played or coached in the NFL.

FloridaMan88 11-03-2012 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9081088)
Yeah, I hope the Chiefs hire a 32 year old head coach who's only gained notoriety through nepotism.

Great plan.

Kyle Shanahan has more of NFL coaching experience than Chip Kelly.

DaneMcCloud 11-03-2012 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9081604)
Kyle Shanahan has more of NFL coaching experience than Chip Kelly.

But without nepotism, he'd have none.

He's Lane Kiffin part two at this point.

FloridaMan88 11-03-2012 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9081226)
Don't be a spaz. Harbaugh brought his 2 coordinators from Stanford. But both of those guys have long NFL coaching resumes. Hell, Harbaugh himself had the least NFL coaching experience of that Stanford staff, but he obviously played.

By comparison, Kelly's entire staff is made up of career college coaches. In fact, they are mostly Oregon holdovers and retreads. He didn't even build the staff.

Harbaugh and Kelly couldn't be less comparable.

The dumbshits trying to compare Harbaugh and Kelly are clueless.

Harbaugh ran an NFL style offense at Stanford... Chip Kelly runs a college-spread offense that would not work in the NFL.

How many QB's has Chip Kelly coached up to the NFL?

I count zero.

FloridaMan88 11-03-2012 11:05 PM

Funny how most of the people humping Chip Kelly also wanted Romeo over Jeff Fisher last January.

DeezNutz 11-03-2012 11:06 PM

Offensive coaches give me pause because they're often too apt to try to dabble.

Sorter 11-03-2012 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9081611)
The dumbshits trying to compare Harbaugh and Kelly are clueless.

Harbaugh ran an NFL style offense at Stanford... Chip Kelly runs a college-spread offense that would not work in the NFL.

How many QB's has Chip Kelly coached up to the NFL?

I count zero.

No offense, but it isn't like he's had a lot of talent to work with at that position since he's arrived there.

Also, please in detail, describe to me why and what aspects of Chips offense wouldn't work? Curious to hear this.

Bewbies 11-03-2012 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9081617)
Funny how most of the people humping Chip Kelly also wanted Romeo over Jeff Fisher last January.

What about those of us that wanted neither of those turds?

People want Chip Kelly because (if he worked) he'd be the type of coach that transforms the game a little bit. He's not an old retread that will try to recreate the 80's or 90's.

Chip Kelly could bring the type of system into the NFL that other teams would copy, he's not the guy that see's what worked somewhere else and brings it to KC.

Bewbies 11-03-2012 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9081619)
No offense, but it isn't like he's had a lot of talent to work with at that position since he's arrived there.

Also, please in detail, describe to me why and what aspects of Chips offense wouldn't work? Curious to hear this.

Running your QB like that in the NFL would get him killed. That would have to change. Chip Kelly is too stupid to know/see/change that. :evil:

Sorter 11-03-2012 11:12 PM

Depends. Cam/Tebow are the only Qbs now I can see that physically could hold up. However, their other skills are abysmal, IMO.

I tend to think that Chip is smart enough guy that he would eliminate his zone read, and focus on utilizing his zone blocking scheme with a 1-back set. But who knows. Maybe he's a crazy **** who would literally get Cassel IRd just for the hell of it.

FloridaMan88 11-03-2012 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9081619)
No offense, but it isn't like he's had a lot of talent to work with at that position since he's arrived there.

Also, please in detail, describe to me why and what aspects of Chips offense wouldn't work? Curious to hear this.

His spread offense relying on a running QB would fail in the NFL.

The NFL is a passing league and Chip Kelly's offense is not a passing offense.

Oregon is 84th in passing offense this year, 68th last year, and the highest they've finished in passing offense/game since Kelly has been head coach is 39th in the country.

The Chiefs need someone who will bring the high powered passing offense you need to win in today's NFL and that is not Chip Kelly.

RealSNR 11-03-2012 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9081604)
Kyle Shanahan has more of NFL coaching experience than Chip Kelly.

We'll see how much of a brilliant head coach Kyle Shanahan is once he goes cold turkey on daddy's breast milk.

I think he'll flop worse than Josh McDaniels. When the **** has Kyle ever had a chance to demonstrate independent thinking without Ratface or his buddy Gary Kubiak looking over his shoulder checking his homework?

DeezNutz 11-03-2012 11:19 PM

There were people who actually didn't want Rat Sr. Yeah, that was a mistake.

BigChiefFan 11-03-2012 11:26 PM

Andy Reid, Jay Gruden, Jon Gruden, Chudzinski, Nolan, Cowher are a few I like to at least be considered for the job.

rtmike 11-04-2012 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 9081650)
Andy Reid, Jay Gruden, Jon Gruden, Chudzinski, Nolan, Cowher are a few I like to at least be considered for the job.

What's the deal with Nolan? In the past decade it seems like he's been on 8 different teams?

Reid's too predictable. Sorry, but I'd have to say no to that whole list.

DaneMcCloud 11-04-2012 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 9081650)
Andy Reid, Jay Gruden, Jon Gruden, Chudzinski, Nolan, Cowher are a few I like to at least be considered for the job.

No to all, especially Chud.

How are you to sell the public an OC whose team is 1-6?

Nolan sucked as a head coach and Jon Gruden can eat a bag of stale dicks.

Simply Red 11-04-2012 01:09 AM

could we work out a way to bring Dick Vermeil back in for a look?

Simply Red 11-04-2012 01:16 AM

you all would cry too - ever tried coaching Dante Hall?

Silock 11-04-2012 01:19 AM

I don't really give a **** who the HEAD coach is as long as we have a coach who will hire great O and D coordinators and DEFER to them. I want a head coach that will delegate responsibility and focus on the main job of getting everyone on the same ****ing page.

Imon Yourside 11-04-2012 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9081617)
Funny how most of the people humping Chip Kelly also wanted Romeo over Jeff Fisher last January.

Ummmm Not me, I would have loved to have had Fisher and stated so to be ridiculed before Romeo. I would love to have a great Offensive mind at this point, we need to develop a QB.

rabblerouser 11-04-2012 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9079998)
Brad Seely
Age: 56
Current job: Special teams coordinator, San Francisco 49ers

Seely has an excellent résumé and should garner consideration for any head-coaching vacancies following the season. He has coached in the NFL for 22 seasons, 10 of which were spent as the special teams coach under Bill Belichick in New England. He has transformed the 49ers' special teams unit into the NFL's very best. The fact that Baltimore's John Harbaugh has successfully made the transition from special teams coach to head coach should help Seely's candidacy.

Former player: "Brad was very well respected in our locker room. He is very detailed and he knows how to communicate."

Awesome.

Bring him in.

Chief Roundup 11-04-2012 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9081604)
Kyle Shanahan has more of NFL coaching experience than Chip Kelly.

Chip has been the Head Coach though. He will be more familiar with what it takes to coach the whole team not just one area of it while daddy takes care of everything else.

chiefzilla1501 11-04-2012 08:14 AM

Yet another list without Gus bradley. All the more reason to go after him.

Dayze 11-04-2012 08:45 AM

Wasnt Fewell is dog dhit coach at buffalo?

Chief Roundup 11-04-2012 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9081945)
Wasnt Fewell is dog dhit coach at buffalo?

Fewell was hired as defensive coordinator of the Buffalo Bills in 2006 and served in the position through Week 10 of the 2009 season. After a disappointing start, the Bills fired head coach Dick Jauron and Fewell was appointed interim head coach, leading Buffalo to a 3-4 finish. Following the season finale, the Bills fired their entire coaching staff, including Fewell.

chiefzilla1501 11-04-2012 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9081945)
Wasnt Fewell is dog dhit coach at buffalo?

He's your prototypical 'if he hasn't been a head coach by now, there's a reason' coach. Like Ron Rivera last year. Like Al Saunders every year.

Rams Fan 11-04-2012 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9080121)
didn't shanahan basically get his dad fired awhile back?


maybe i'm getting him mixed up with shottenheimer :hmmm:

That would be Marty and him trying to hire one of his brothers at San Diego.

Woodchuck 11-04-2012 09:03 AM

Looks like a pile of shit to me. Bad year to draft a qb and a bad year to hire a rookie HC.

A day late and a buck short. The story of the Chiefs.

Rams Fan 11-04-2012 09:07 AM

Surprised there aren't more people wanting Ray Horton. He's done a tremendous job with Arizona's D.

Todd Bowles, too.

Dayze 11-04-2012 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 9081963)
Fewell was hired as defensive coordinator of the Buffalo Bills in 2006 and served in the position through Week 10 of the 2009 season. After a disappointing start, the Bills fired head coach Dick Jauron and Fewell was appointed interim head coach, leading Buffalo to a 3-4 finish. Following the season finale, the Bills fired their entire coaching staff, including Fewell.

Thanks.

Chief Roundup 11-04-2012 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9081995)
Thanks.

It is one of the few areas of searching that I can do.
:thumb:

Chris Meck 11-04-2012 11:16 AM

man, I just hope that we don't blow up the 3-4 and go back to a 4-3. It'll take 3 years to revamp personnel again. Just move to a one gap, attacking style.

TEX 11-04-2012 12:14 PM

Just hire Cowher already and be done with it.

Sorter 11-04-2012 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 9082198)
man, I just hope that we don't blow up the 3-4 and go back to a 4-3. It'll take 3 years to revamp personnel again. Just move to a one gap, attacking style.

You're probably already going to have to get 2 new DEs anyways. Moving Poe to DE and starting Powe at NT might solve that though.

Sorter 11-04-2012 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 9082198)
man, I just hope that we don't blow up the 3-4 and go back to a 4-3. It'll take 3 years to revamp personnel again. Just move to a one gap, attacking style.

I agree though, I prefer a 1-gap.

milkman 11-04-2012 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9082464)
I agree though, I prefer a 1-gap.

Only an outdated, out of touch idiot prefers a 2 gap.


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