There's no way in hell that I put my kids on that stuff.

Me either.

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Best explanation I've heard for the ADHD epidemic:

Our kids are now amazingly stimulated by a huge variety of media from birth. They live in a world that is EXTREMELY stimulating and with constant diversions such as computers, television, music, handhelds, etc.. etc..

Then you take them and put them in a completely non-stimulating environment where a person stands in front of the class, trying to teach them "boring" stuff (in comparison to the media they're accustomed to consuming).

Then when they don't/can't pay attention, we label them with ADD/ADHD and give them drugs to help them focus.

Meth is fun for about 8-10 hours then you come down and it sucks or you are up for 3 days chasing a high and that isn't much better.

Sad but true.

Never really thought of it that way but it sure sounds accurate.

I wonder if kids that don't attend a preschool are more likely to have that problem.

true, but the key in developing focus is discipline. kids don't have any because parents don't give any and this mostly due to new gov't laws.

I know a kid who didn't do a day of preschool and is excelling in his first year of grade school. He's a Kindergartner who's just a few months in and is already taking home 1st grade reading and math homework.

?

What the hell do laws have to do with discipline?

After all, you can discipline your child w/o beating him with a switch.

I'm sure we all "know a kid", but just wondering if overall there is a correlation between preschool and adhd diagnosis. I'm pretty sure there is a correlation between attending preschool and basically being a productive member of society from the studies done.

Just one quick one I found.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...parent-centers

If I drink too much diet Coke too fast (like two or three refills), it puts me to sleep.

Funny how the ADHD brain is wired.

To be fair, you're never at your best in a mug shot. The police aren't exactly Olan Mills what with the stark, florescent lighting and unflattering camera angles. I don't think a single one of those people said cheese.

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Wow...that's insane.

I like the ADD/ADHD comments. Parents are lazy and don't want to take care of their children, it's not a brain dysfunction, it's a parental dysfunction.

Working in the car business, there were several car sales people that took Adderall, due to it being like taking crack.

It is still legal to spank on the butt in Kansas, better believe if time out doesn't work, a good spanking does.

And let me say: ADD/ADHD can be a REAL thing. There are actual people who have attention issues. My wife is one of them. But the complete epidemic we're experiencing with it is not real. It's a symptom of societal problems and transitions.

I've taken Adderal as recreation before. It's a high-quality speed. I can see how addictive it could be.

Took some before work a few times. I got a lot done. :)

Um....no.

This is totally thread hijacking, but if you haven't watch Ken Robinson's TED talk on schools killing creativity, you should:

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Here is a great anecdote about ADD and schools:

I took Ritalin (as documented on CP) a few times back in college...the shit worked. I believe Hamas Jenkins called it "academic steroids."

It absolutely works..... until is doesn't.

I never felt the need to take it...I wrote a friend's paper and in exchange he gave me 20 Ritalin which led me to my best academic semester ever...

but after I took the 20 I never felt the need to get more, pay for more, beg for more...etc.

I never took them again because I just sort of lost interest in academics. I'm still about 20 credit hours short of graduating and I'm 27. No plans in going back and no plans to ever take Ritalin again.

I certainly never felt "high" or even enjoyed it...it simply just helped me focus. Maybe I honestly needed a prescription, I have no idea.

I'm not sure there even IS an epidemic. Much like SSRI's in the 90's, Adderall seems to me to be the "in" drug right now.

There are many, many people who have ADHD.

There are many, many more who have irresponsible doctors. IMHO.

psssh

Lucky.

This thread is going way off subject now.

Meth.

Meth makes you smarter. Discuss.

What thread on CP hasn't ever by it's end gone way off subject? :hmmm:

My waitress at lunch today is probably a former (or current) meth head. She had the telltale circle of rotten teeth right in the front.

midgets.

wow

When I was a kid all we had was lead paint chips to party with. Pretty boring stuff man.

My wife nor I have ever even tasted coffee and we're old people. Very unusual. We do plenty of green tea though - it's our crack or meth or whatever you call it.

Maybe thats why so many think we're weird.

Green tea doesn't have a lot of caffeine in it, but it does have some.

Loaded with antioxidants though. I drink a lot of tea, black and green.

Just my observation and two cents. I know there are a few serious accounts where a child/person have ADD or what not, but more often than not, it is a parental issue, lack of discipline.

I think blaming it all on lack of discipline might be overly simplistic, but I agree that it's over diagnosed.

After reading the article you posted, I would agree discipline is not always the factor. People do learn in different manners. I had to remember my physiology classes.

My sister has a son who doctors claimed had ADD, nah, he just needed his butt whooped.

Man, that shit is ****ing terrible.

A bit of a rant here, but I feel like people that get so hopelessly hooked on these types of drugs are just weak. They're irresponsible decision-makers and don't have the mental fortitude it takes to kick such an addictive substance. It's really sad because they often have kids or families that care for them and go about doing their best to ruin all of their lives.. that goes for anyone on any type of super-addictive, hardcore drug. I've never encountered anyone from the meth crowd (that I know of) but I've seen more than my fair share of crackheads.

For me, it's all about what you're putting into your body. As someone highlighted earlier, the chemicals in this shit these days is incredible. Battery acid and antifreeze, what the ****? Why in God's name would you even entertain the thought of smoking something that has that on the ingredient list (I'm aware meth doesn't usually come with a list of ingredients)?

I pride myself on being at least the least bit respectable to my body. Outside of the very occasional social drinking, I don't do any drugs, not even caffeine or tylenol unless I absolutely have to. Like, I'm talking once-every-2-years migraine, then I'll pop an ibuprofen or two. Hell, I even try not to drink soda and at least exercise a handful of times a week..

Before I get too self-righteous though, my diet does suck.

Anyway.. That's my rant. I'm done.

Damn, your life must be incredibly boring.

:evil:

LMAO Nahhhhhh, man! I make do with what I got.

I read your posts and I want to say I didn't mean what I said in any malicious way. It's just that a person extremely close to me has a drug problem so it's made me bitter..

But for me, its not even an issue of doing drugs or anything like that. It's all about addiction. I've smoked weed on occasion and do drink socially from time to time as I mentioned; I could just never allow myself to need it, know what I mean? I could never allow my desire for any certain thing, especially one as destructive as some drugs, to control my life.

Oh no, no offense taken. Was just having a little fun.

Now, it's about time to go. :bong:

I always wondered what was up with the lacerations methheads tend to develop on their head

Not sure if it is the drug itself or just the attrition of being a drug addict

Aside from the awful haircuts a lot of them look like they get in routine knife fights

They think scabs are bugs or something and they peel them clear down to the bone.

At least that what I was told at a meth conference for landlords years ago.

My dad was able to kick the Meth.

He replaced it with Heroin.

Hey! Don't judge! He kicked the Heroin by replacing it with tweak!

But he was able to kick the tweak too.....by replacing it with booze.

Some people just like to get ****ed up. My brother is one such person.

Trent functioned very well for being so ****ed up all the time!!!

I SAID BROTHER NOT BROTHER-IN-LAW!!!

Where I come from meth and "tweak" are synonymous...

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ROFL

Haha. Yeah. My wife's family is squeaky clean.