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PRIEST 12-28-2012 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9246943)
**** PIOLI!




This

GloryDayz 12-29-2012 10:12 AM

Still thinking... I may have to sleep on this one...

ChiTown 12-29-2012 10:15 AM

Ill forgive him for being an absolute dickbag of a President and GM once he is fired.

The Bad Guy 12-29-2012 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9246771)
Unless they start winning...

I don't give a shit what they win if he's here.

If that mother ****er is the GM of this team for the 2013 season, I will never ever be a fan again.

You can't come in with the bravado he did and post the results he has and tell me that this organization is committed to winning.

He's failed on multiple levels with his right 53 bullshit. No coaches want to coach with this guy except for his tree buddies.

My love for the Chiefs has deteriorated significantly due to Scott Pioli. One more year is the death blow.

Reerun_KC 12-29-2012 10:38 AM

I will forgive him the minute he Belchers himself in front of the team...

The Bad Guy 12-29-2012 10:39 AM

I don't care if he admits Cassel was a mistake. It's 4 years too ****ing late.

There's nothing else he could do. The stats and win/loses have forced his hand.

The Bad Guy 12-29-2012 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9248176)
I will forgive him the minute he Belchers himself in front of the team...

Well then that took a turn.

"That really escalated quickly, Brick killed a man".

Reerun_KC 12-29-2012 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9248175)
I don't give a shit what they win if he's here.

If that mother ****er is the GM of this team for the 2013 season, I will never ever be a fan again.

You can't come in with the bravado he did and post the results he has and tell me that this organization is committed to winning.

He's failed on multiple levels with his right 53 bullshit. No coaches want to coach with this guy except for his tree buddies.

My love for the Chiefs has deteriorated significantly due to Scott Pioli. One more year is the death blow.

100% this

Predarat 12-29-2012 10:42 AM

Nothing.

Deberg_1990 12-29-2012 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9248175)
I don't give a shit what they win if he's here.

If that mother ****er is the GM of this team for the 2013 season, I will never ever be a fan again.

You can't come in with the bravado he did and post the results he has and tell me that this organization is committed to winning.

He's failed on multiple levels with his right 53 bullshit. No coaches want to coach with this guy except for his tree buddies.

My love for the Chiefs has deteriorated significantly due to Scott Pioli. One more year is the death blow.


Pretty much how I feel. Pioli has become such a polarizing figure, there's no way he's going to be able to get a solid coach in KC to turn things around. Nor has he earned a "do over" right.

If Clark brings this chump back, that tells me all I need to know about his committment to winning. I will find a new team to spend my time and energy on.
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FAX 12-29-2012 10:47 AM

You know, it's interesting ... in order for Pioli to remain in situ, he's going to have to convince Clark that he can turn this thing around and do it quickly. I mean, you certainly can't justify retaining him based upon his track record to date. So, he's going to have to sell Clark on some sort of super plan ... whatever that may be.

The interesting part is that there is no reason whatsoever to believe that Pioli has what it takes to do the job he was hired to perform. You certainly don't keep him around on that basis. His tenure as GM is the definition of failure. So, if Clark retains Pioli, it has to mean that the guy can sell the warts off a pickle when he wants to.

FAX

The Bad Guy 12-29-2012 10:47 AM

Not to mention he's going to be a lame duck coach so if Pioli is back, so is Romeo. No head coaching candidate worth a shit is going to come here.

If he's signed an extension, just let me get an early start on finding another team.

scho63 12-29-2012 11:31 AM

Watching his tail lights leave the stadium for the last time

Messier 12-29-2012 11:48 AM

The only reason to keep Pioli would be the same reason it makes no sense to keep him. He'd have to be striped of all responsibility, and hire a coach that has final say on all player decisions. Might as well hire someone better at getting players if that's the case.

bevischief 12-29-2012 11:52 AM

He calls all the major channels and goes full Belcher in prime time.

Quesadilla Joe 12-29-2012 11:54 AM

I was trying to come up with an argument to support Pioli coming back but I just couldn't. He has shown that he is only comfortable with people he knows and the only person he knows that could actually help the Chiefs is Belicheat. He has created a bad work environment and hasn't improved the team in any way since he got the job.

The Chiefs are a dead franchise with Pioli there. If Clark Hunt can't see it I'm sorry. Maybe if he lived in KC and came to the facility every day like Pat Bowlen he could have seen it coming sooner.

Imon Yourside 12-29-2012 11:55 AM

I would forgive him if he moves on to retirement or taking the patriot way to say Denver or Oakland.

NJChiefsFan 12-29-2012 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9248309)
I was trying to come up with an argument to support Pioli coming back but I just couldn't. He has shown that he is only comfortable with people he knows and the only person he knows that could actually help the Chiefs is Belicheat. He has created a bad work environment and hasn't improved the team in any way since he got the job.

The Chiefs are a dead franchise with Pioli there. If Clark Hunt can't see it I'm sorry. Maybe if he lived in KC and came to the facility every day like Pat Bowlen he could have seen it coming sooner.

You almost went the entire post without dipping into homer-mode. Baby steps.

Coogs 12-29-2012 12:36 PM

'bout the only positive of the Pioli regime was (going to use past tense... :D) Charles re-upping.

Mizzou_8541 12-29-2012 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9246762)
If he stays I don't ****ing care if he converts to "FIRST ROUND QBS ARE AWESOME!!111"ism.

My ass is ****ing gone.

Me too. If he stays, Chiefs fans have no hope.

Chiefshrink 12-29-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9248176)
I will forgive him the minute he Belchers himself in front of the team...

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh ! And now the RIMSHOT !

Chiefshrink 12-29-2012 12:45 PM

If Pioli is retained he and President Obama will have a lot in common !

Massive amounts of FAIL but yet allowed to keep their jobs !!:rolleyes:

burt 12-29-2012 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Argo (Post 9247005)
If pioli is retained... Well, its a good thing I don't have Girlfriend so I can't go full Belcher.

Just kill yourself first...then her....

Easy 6 12-29-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 9246826)
Scott pissed on the fans, staff, head and assistant coaches, players, local media, and even the janitorial staff at Arrowhead. There's not any form of apology for being a stubborn egotistical jackass to EVERYBODY he encounters. His drafts have been mediocre at best, his ego not letting his coaching staff do their f'ing jobs, turning Arrowhead into a top secret organization, firing long term blue collar employees w/o just cause, and basically telling everybody to get bent and root for a different team if they didn't like the direction this team is going.

PIOLI needs to pack his shit and get the **** out of Arrowhead ASAP. Clark needs to hire a proven GM with a history of making consistent high draft grades. Then supply him with the financial resources to get the best possible coaching staff available. He may have to step on some toes and make damn sure we get a QB with our top pick in the draft just to get the fans back on the bandwagon. Then hire somebody with a proven record to get this team some positive media attention to put the former regime in the past.

Pioli has done far more damage at One Arrowhead Drive than just being a stubborn jackass with Matt Casshole.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

bevischief 12-29-2012 12:53 PM

Clean gblowfish's chimney for starters. Money, hookers and blow.

burt 12-29-2012 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 9248405)
Clean gblowfish's chimney for starters. Money, hookers and blow.

k...MAYBE if there were EXPENSIVE hookers.......Maybe.....naw....

Imon Yourside 12-29-2012 12:55 PM

Antifreeze always works....

GloryDayz 12-29-2012 01:00 PM

****!!!!!!!!!!! I hate impossible problems to solve!!!

I'll add a Cray to the mix and see if it can think of one..

bevischief 12-29-2012 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burt (Post 9248410)
k...MAYBE if there were EXPENSIVE hookers.......Maybe.....naw....

I am talking at least Bunny Ranch type.

Chief Faithful 12-29-2012 01:27 PM

I hold no grudge against Pioli, but from strictly a results perspective he has failed at the job and needs to go. I supported the need to change the culture and provide discipline. I support his method of evaluating talent based on position profiles and whether or not the incoming talent provides an upgrade. I like the change to a 3-4 defense because it is more flexible and means more linebackers over linemen on the special teams unit. While I support the direction the Chiefs took I feel Pioli just failed as a GM.

Pioli's stubborn support of Cassel is mind boggling and why not Stanzi? Draft QB's, even Pioli himself stated this was the most important position on the team. Why did he not go for speed at WR? His trading of Gonzo and Waters was stupid. But most of all, his choices of OC when Weis left have been simply incompetent.

For me there is nothing to forgive, Pioli has performed very poorly and based on his result alone he needs to go.

bevischief 12-29-2012 01:31 PM

A real Pineapple as a butt plug no lube on the 10 0'clock national news.

Dunerdr 12-29-2012 01:36 PM

A public announcement that he ****ed up bad, wasted talent and time, and lastly that hes stepping down as gm and stepping up as arrowhead litter control.

Then and only then. We can start the healing process. He still owes me dinner and a movie after the raw ****in i got over 8 games i attended in his 4 years. And a little cuddling wouldnt hurt afterwards. Just saying.

whoman69 12-29-2012 01:37 PM

harakiri

RealSNR 12-29-2012 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9248309)
I was trying to come up with an argument to support Pioli coming back but I just couldn't. He has shown that he is only comfortable with people he knows and the only person he knows that could actually help the Chiefs is Belicheat. He has created a bad work environment and hasn't improved the team in any way since he got the job.

The Chiefs are a dead franchise with Pioli there. If Clark Hunt can't see it I'm sorry. Maybe if he lived in KC and came to the facility every day like Pat Bowlen he could have seen it coming sooner.

Give Clark some time to be very close to death. Then he'll turn over a new leaf I'm sure.

Quesadilla Joe 12-29-2012 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 9248360)
You almost went the entire post without dipping into homer-mode. Baby steps.

With all of the offseason drama with Haley and the wire tapping or whatever I am actually shocked that Clark Hunt didn't become more involved with his franchise. He let Pioli bully everybody and Pioli had nobody to keep him in check. The owner is supposed to establish the culture for a franchise and he can't do that when he lives out of state.

GloryDayz 12-29-2012 05:16 PM

The Cray is still working on a more detailed answer, but this just in from a less-new super computer..

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-sdVqnfYKmY...2B8%2Bball.jpg

bevischief 12-29-2012 05:33 PM

Midget gang bang on film, pineapple butt plug and what he has earned the last 4 years.

GloryDayz 12-29-2012 07:13 PM

Don't go final yet, I'm still thinkiing.. It's a process, albeit a long process...

http://www.swsalestalk.com/wp-conten...dering-man.jpg

NJChiefsFan 12-29-2012 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9248621)
With all of the offseason drama with Haley and the wire tapping or whatever I am actually shocked that Clark Hunt didn't become more involved with his franchise. He let Pioli bully everybody and Pioli had nobody to keep him in check. The owner is supposed to establish the culture for a franchise and he can't do that when he lives out of state.

I don't blame Clark for taking Pioli. I like that he did. That being said, I do agree with your point. I don't know if he just didn't believe it or what, but a look into it was called for at the very least. Still, if he hires a good GM this year, I am not going to be hating on Clark for his tenure so far, even if it is filled with plenty of flaws.

It seems clear that Pioli still has respect around the league for whatever political reason you want to make. If he makes a change at the very least we see a willingness to admit a wrong and change it.

PhillyChiefFan 12-29-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Robo-Chachi (Post 9246748)
seppuku

This.

Easy 6 12-29-2012 11:25 PM

How about eating a heaping bowl of his own oven fresh shit, topped with habanero sauce and cigarette ashes.

Actually no, thats not even enough.

I just hope this is all over very soon, like monday morning soon... because the longer it drags out, the more worried i become, in spite of the 1001 facts that say it should be a done deal.

I dunno, its just worrying... maybe its the fact that in the outstanding Joe Delaney tribute clip, they try to glorify DMC by comparing him to Joe, that has pioli written ALL over it.

Its not enough to shove him down our throats with a miscast role on the field, but now, at this late stage of the game... they're shining him up by comparing him to Joe, it stinks, and its worrying.

Say it aint so, Clark...

crossbow 12-30-2012 12:58 AM

He can GTFO and take that horses ass Dabole with him.

I don't understand all the secrecy either. What part of his plan was he trying to protect? Record losses and blowouts so bad that the team destroyed the 1929 Bisons in loser stats? How NOT to evaluate a quarterback? How to destroy the player/fans/community relationship the team had? His patented draft selection proccess? I have seen enough of the Patriot Way.

crossbow 12-30-2012 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9249474)
The Cray is still working on a more detailed answer, but this just in from a less-new super computer..

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-sdVqnfYKmY...2B8%2Bball.jpg

They use this device to develope offensive game plans too.

el borracho 12-30-2012 01:17 AM

To forgive Pioli? I guess he would have to make all the right decisions and actually build a dynasty that won a championship or two. He would have to select the right quarterback in the upcoming draft and hire the right head coach and hire the right coordinators and find/acquire some talented receivers and find/acquire some talented tight ends and find/acquire some talented pass-rushers. If he did all of those things (not likely), then I would forgive him.

chiefzilla1501 12-30-2012 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by crossbow (Post 9250651)
They use this device to develope offensive game plans too.

I think you're thinking of the tecmo bowl playbook.

AussieChiefsFan 12-30-2012 02:07 AM

Draft Geno, hire successful coach, Win multiple playoff games from 2013 onwards.

Spott 12-30-2012 07:27 AM

If he went to the KC zoo, snuck into the gorilla cage and got sodomized to death by all of the gorillas in the exhibit then I might consider forgiving him.

mdchiefsfan 12-30-2012 07:33 AM

Pioli must march across that field, present himself before this army, put his head between his legs and kiss his own arse. Then I will forgive him

Rausch 12-30-2012 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC kid (Post 9246720)

Anything he can do to make you on board for next year?

Nope.

I'm throwing in the towel if he's back...

Rasputin 12-30-2012 08:29 AM

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