There is no proof other than Marty's word.

You must be some kind of genius because you are the only one who can read between those lines.

This. Schefter debunked it.

There was also a tweet from someone in the KC media a few months ago about how the Hunts feel they had been deceived by Pioli.

Which lines are we to read between on that deal? Between lines 3 and 4, I'm getting "Wash your nuts with warm, soapy water and you'll feel like a king on founders day."

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You really believe that happened?

I'll say it again. C'mon now.

Really? Who do you think told CBS to talk about the blackout? KC ****ing Wolf?

Hunt authorized it because Pioli was being an oppressive dickbag to fans.

I believe Marty.

We need Denver to roll us

I love tree fort talk.

I have to believe that Clark will fire Pioli.

Clark cannot be so stupid as to bring him back.

no, we don't.

we need to lose for the draft pick but who gets fired is not going to be decided by this last game. Imo.

It's Adam's opinion guys .......... nothing more.

At the same time here is Jason Cole ...

Jason Cole Jason Cole ‏@JasonColeYahoo

Heard from a league source last night that Scott Pioli will survive in KC, but only with significant changes (new coach, new QB). We'll see.

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So who really knows?

Indy is helping the cause. They are beating Houston.

Here's what I've been told. You can believe, not believe, I don't give a shit. I like most of you so I'll put it out there. Just know that my source isn't a janitor, a friend of a friend of a friend, it's someone directly connected with someone high up in the front office.

I posted last night that Clark has a basic man crush on Pioli. That's never wavered. Clark is of the opinion that a QB and a new shiny HC will spark the fanbase (which he's 100% wrong about). Pioli has done a master sales job, but Clark breaking up with him basically was a huge long shot.

The real, real shitty part is that not only is he going to be back for 2013, but to attract any HC candidates, Clark knows that he's going to have to lock Pioli is to an extension the length of the contract the HC signs.

That's the death blow to all of this.

Pioli's not only going to be here for 2013, but baring a miracle here at a minimum of 2 years after that.

Now obviously none of this is set in stone, people can miscommunicate information, but this is what I've been told as of 15 minutes ago. Believe at your own risk.

The misinfo out there about all of this is crazy. I'm holding out hope it's false, but the tea leaves are all pointing to this being real and that the ****ing fat meathead is back again.

He's going to go on a media ass kissing circuit like he did last year to try to portray himself as a nice guy. I can tell you that other people that work in that front office (not the source of my info) were praying he'd be fired.

Clark just loves the money Pioli makes for him and he truly believes Pioli was mostly the brains behind the Pats titles.

I want to throw up.

I can see that happening

Coaches are gone

Pioli might survive if he agreed to clean house and promise to go all-out on a QB.

Just WTF would Clark let the guy who picked Cassel and Quinn (and Stanzi) as his QBs and Haley and Crennel as his coaches ... make yet one more round of those picks?

JFC ... "I'm confident you'll eventually get it right, Scott."

Not to change the subject, but of all the King Kong movies, I think Peter Jackson's is the best. Mainly because I like the big monkey's taste in blonds in that one.

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I've been friends with Marty for a long, long time.

He has generally good info. I think he was given bad info there.

I'm not feeling good about this at ****ing all. The big thing here is no one is saying Pioli is gone for sure. I seriously don't know how extreme my reaction will be if they keep this asshole.

From Barry lol:



HEY PIOLI................I have an IDEA for ya????????? TRY THIS. It's a GUARANTEED WIN WIN scenario for you. Go After Josh McDaniels for your head coach, and go out spend 10 Million dollars ( BARGAIN ) on Mike Vick. Owners WIN. FANS Win. Everybody is happy. Seats are FILLED come opening day. Let McDaniels play with his new QB, by allowing him to be MIKE VICK instead of making him take every snap under center. There is your formula to save face with the fans. YOUR WELCOME. And I expect a ****ing Bonus.

Your source also told you that Pioli had signed an extension back during Bucs week.

Which wasn't true.

An extension was offered only to lower the buyout.

I just want go out and kill living things.

2007, with Jared Allen & Tony G, the team went 4 - 12 during an ugly season for the franchise.

Clark Hunt did nothing. Carl Peterson remained while it was clearly his fault.

Carl traded Jared Allen. Still, nothing from Clark.

Nothing.

ROFL


Need a partner?

A Pioli extension and...........Kirk Ferentz???

LOLz....really...does Clark want his fanbase to commit mass suicide?

If this happens, that man is utterly ****ing clueless and I'm done...goddamn I can't wait for the spring and the Royals (unbelievable yes I know)...

Someone is going to have to explain to me how an extension affects the previous contract in anyway unless its a restructure.

Coaching and QB have been the main decisions that have held this franchise back. How do you let the same guy make the decisions. If Hunt doesn't fire him he's the biggest problem with the franchise

Pioli hasn't made any money for the Hunts /CP



ready for DaKCMan to come along and demand a link ...

Dude gets stupider by the second. I think I got dumber reading that.

The sad fact is that many thousands of fans will buy into the idea that a new HC, new QB, and a brand new defensive lineman is all we need and ticket sales will bounce.

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What?

That makes NO sense. How exactly is Pioli making him a lot of money? Ticket sales will be the lowest in the league if Pioli is retained.

Clark isn't a stupid business man. Even if all he cares about is money, he knows that firing Pioli is the only way to get more money.

I just talked to one of my pals. Ferentz will NOT come to KC if Pioli is on a 1 year deal. Pioli has to be extended before Ferentz will even consider it.

He then said he didn't even see it happening then because Pioli would be on a short leash regardless and Ferentz wants job security.

You're a god damn fool.

I was told an extension was happening. Not that it was signed.

An extension offered to lower the buyout?

I'm at a loss here.

Again, I could care less if you believe me or not, but I talked to Marty 2 minutes ago and the info I have received jives what he's been told as well.

Yep

Didnt you just say a couple weeks ago that your source told you Pioli had already been fired?

Do you know multiple people there, or am I getting you confused with someone else?

I'm gonna go Bud Dwyer myself now.....

NTTIAWWT

I didn't get any info on the candidates, just that Pioli won't be back as a lame duck with a new HC.

I think you miss the point sometimes Laz, its not that Clark isn't making $, he just doesn't need Pioli to make that $. The Chiefs are a paid for franchise from the get go, making $ is as sure as the sun coming up.

There are plenty of cap guys you can use to manage salary $ etc...that's not even Pioli's forte.

How is he making Hunt any more money than Peterson did? How would Pioli make him more money than (insert ANY other available GM) would?

I've percolated on that, Mr. jd1020 after which I sat in the pot for a few days.

The only way I can figure it is that you "give" the extension in exchange for "taking" a less expensive buyout. For Pioli it might make sense because he gets the multi-year extension if he can keep his job.

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There's 3 people I get info from. 1 really solid one, one meh one and another decent guy.

I did not get the firing info from the real solid one. Could have been the same dude that told Nick Wright. Don't know if there's any connection.

What's been said is that Clark had his mind made up and Pioli did a master sales job to stay on.

If he does indeed stay, any opinions on who we'd go after as far as HC?

Surely it can't be Ferentz...surely, surely not....

Sorry, I was just piggybacking on your post, since the contract extension was a common theme in both pieces of info.

It's not just ticket sales.

Pioli has his hand in every aspect of the org. Operation costs from the amount of ink used, to paper ordered, to the fabric on sales people's chairs have been micromanaged by him.

He has his hands everywhere. He's cut their spending significantly over what Carl had done. That was one of the appeals Clark first had with Scott is SP came in and pinpointed areas to save money.

Clark is a business man. He hasn't lost money a single year Pioli has been here.

Great. So now we have 2 completely different conflicting reports.

Pioli is the ultimate comfort guy.

I'm sure that'll be his first go to.

But if all of this is true, and Pioli is back, I'm done communicating with any of them. I need to rid myself of the filth that is this organization.

Then Clark is a moron and this team is done for.

We're going to have the #1 overall pick for the first time EVER and it's not going to matter.

In other words-NO ONE KNOWS!!!

NO ONE!
Maybe not ever Clark.

It has to be a REALLY spectacular head coach hire if Pioli stays. Better not be Firentz

Pioli is a GM who believed in not spending big in FA and building from the draft. He believes in a certain slotting for positions when it comes to money.

This philosophy leads to the Chiefs not spending the entire salary cap and making lots of money. Most GM's would fight against this and want to spend as much as they can each year.

Especially with the lockout and no salary floor ... In my opinion, Pioli made the Hunt a tons of money and Clark loved it.

No one will be happier than I am if he gets fired.

I just haven't been told from anyone I trust that it's going to happen and that he won't be back in 2013. All the info is in the other direction with the exception of Schefter and LaCon.

Schefter hasn't reported anything. He used someone elses report and provided his opinion.

If Pisoli is staying, I hope the ****ers win today and lose the 1 pick

Pioli probably has convinced Clark that season-ticket sales in Iowa would skyrocket.

I dont know anything because the person I know had his phone shut off about 2 weeks ago. I guess I just assumed that was when Pioli was actually fired and that company phones were shut down.

I thought that was good news.

That's childish ...

I'm designing a bonfire of Chiefs merchandise as we speak.

His opinion is always based on some info.

We will know tomorrow night at the latest, but my optimism that he'll be fired is officially gone.

Getting embarrassed today will go a long way to helping decide, I hope. Losing 35-3 sounds perfect.

What about all of the news of Pioli literally packing up his shit?

Yeah, this.

if what happens today against Denver decides anything then Hunt is an idiot.

How do they do that and spend the 2nd most $$ on salaries?

The reason they never hit the salary cap is because we dont owe $ to dead contracts, anywhere. You can bet your ass any team bumping the salary cap has a ton of dead $ and bad contracts. I hate the salary cap argument.

With all the bullshit this year, getting embarrassed by Peyton Manning isn't changing anyone's mind.

RdU

LOTS of questions will need to be addressed in the next 48 hours.

ROFL

The Hawkeye message boards are on fire...everybody hopes it is TRUE.

You are not making me feel very good about life right now.

just my opinion, believe what you want.


I also believe that Hunt will resist 'cleaning house' unless he thinks that he doesn't really have much choice. The Hunt family is about business and they don't like change unless it's directly related to making money.

Exactly

When you couldn't even get Peyton Manning or Jeff Fisher to even talk to you, you know something is wrong. The games aren't even fun to go to anymore. Even the shitty Carl/Herm years weren't even this bad. Hell in 20 years Carl Peterson never got the hate that Pioli has earned from fans. Jack Stedman and Jim Schaff never got it either. Peterson and Steadman were active in the community and did alot of good in the city. If Pioli is retained, it will be a very hard decision on season tickets for me.

If Pioli stays, I hope he does hire Ferentz. I will actually have some hope for my college team. And since I won't be rooting for the Chiefs anymore, I wouldn't care less what the hell they do.

Positive is that Stanzi would finally get his big break.

Dammit Parker, why wish this on the rest of us, Oh wait, I won't care either.

The problem is that, for every informed anti-Piolite, there are dozens (if not hundreds) of Chiefs fans who guzzle the koolaid. Deb ALL CAPS is not alone. We're talking about tailgate addicts who couldn't care less (more or less) about the inner workings of the franchise. They just want to root for their team ... win or lose.

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LMAO

I just don't understand how 2-14 at this point in his tenure can make an owner say, "well, I haven't seen enough fail yet to believe he can't do it. Lets give him another shot." I mean, it's absolutely incredible that he has a job.

A performance record like Scott's would have gotten me fired 3 or 4 times at my current job.