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|Zach| 12-31-2012 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 9257060)
Hey, Opie Taylor(Clark) had the balls to fire King Carl and I will applaud him for that but Pioli was HIS pick and the best move he could make with the fans is to admit he messed up with the Pioli hiring and fire him. The fanbase comes back in a heartbeat because the fans will forgive and it shows commitment to winning. If Pioli stays Clark will be viewed as a pussy who is not in control and afraid of admitting a mistake and moreso not committed to winning.
So it takes balls to Fire Carl. The guy who hadn't won in the playoffs in years and years.

What is this.

Chiefshrink 12-31-2012 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9256848)
My biggest fear is, we find out Pioli signed his extension, and Clark is too cheap to buy it out. That would prove money means more to the Hunt Family than winning. We'll see.
Gosh let's hope not but I get your point. However, Clark's a billionaire what is a few million in order to make many many millions over and above if he would just make it right with the fan base by firing Pioli and draft Geno. Instant LIFEBLOOD in the fan base because now there is something to look forward to because we are waaaaaaay too talented a team to be 2-14. We actually have a lot of talent and if you are a GM and a HC who wouldn't want to come to KC and have the NO.1 pick in getting Geno with JC as your premier back and potential to keep Bowe with Baldwin developing on the rise with an above average D that is developing. Forget today's game. They packed it in long ago.

Chiefshrink 12-31-2012 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 9257071)
So it takes balls to Fire Carl. The guy who hadn't won in the playoffs in years and years.

What is this.
Hey we are talking Opie demeanor here and when you have been KING a long time that King gets to thinking he is invincible but I concede your point it will have been much easier firing KC than it will be SP assuming SP is getting fired.

Clark's demeanor comes off like he can be pushed around and intimidated whether that is true or not remains to be seen. BUT the whole Pioli/Haley fiasco that happened last year is not a good sign that Clark really knew what the hell was going on thus shows lack of leadership and foreknowledge of the inner workings of HIS organization. Trust BUT verify as Reagan often said. Some owners 'verify' too much to the point of meddling(Jones,Davis etc....) and some owners trust too much because they don't want to be hands on (Hunt Sr. etc.....) There has to be a healthy balance of trusting but verifying is all I'm saying.

jspchief 12-31-2012 01:36 AM
Of course Clark wants to win. But so what? I want to be a brain surgeon. But until I put in the work, its not going to happen.

It's not of question of whether he wants to win. It's a question of what he's willing to do to achieve that goal.

And let's be honest. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Lamar Hunt was a bit of a sacred cow to Chiefs fans, but the truth is he wasn't a great owner in terms of fielding a winner. He was too hands off and loyal to a fault. His entire NFL legacy centers on a business transaction.

Its fitting that chiefscountry asks to compare it to the other Hunt businesses, because in the end that's all it is. Another one of Hunts businesses.

|Zach| 12-31-2012 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9257119)
Of course Clark wants to win. But so what? I want to be a brain surgeon. But until I put in the work, its not going to happen.

It's not of question of whether he wants to win. It's a question of what he's willing to do to achieve that goal.

And let's be honest. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Lamar Hunt was a bit of a sacred cow to Chiefs fans, but the truth is he wasn't a great owner in terms of fielding a winner. He was too hands off and loyal to a fault. His entire NFL legacy centers on a business transaction.

Its fitting that chiefscountry asks to compare it to the other Hunt businesses, because in the end that's all it is. Another one of Hunts businesses.
yes

Skyy God 12-31-2012 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9256674)
Clark Hunt announces he's going to sell the team and Mark Cuban is the buyer....Kansas City drinks the kool-aid Jim Jones style, count it.
8 banners with this message next year if Clark retains Pioli.

DeezNutz 12-31-2012 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9257007)
But what about the other businesses the Hunts own and run? Chiefs are just the high profile one in the spotlight but they have other ventures as well that are just as demanding. Not to mention Texas is more economically appealing to millionaries because no income taxes. DFW is a major international hub. And not to mention the parts of the real money maker for the Hunt family is still based in Dallas with Hunt Oil. Hell I'm involved with two business now and in the next year or two potenially investing in another one way from my area. I know its tough, but you have to hire the right personal to run them.

I'm not happy with the direction the Chiefs are in because of Pioli. I didn't like the hire in the first place. The situation with the Chiefs is they hired the wrong ****ing guy to run their team. If they made the right hire, its all for naught.
The NFL, in my view, isn't just another business. Far from it because, in a lot of ways, you assume a responsibility to represent a city. And you sure as **** represent a fan base, and KC's is a passionate one.

Thus, there will not and cannot be a one-to-one correlation with any other type of business. Professional sports are special and should be treated as such.

GloryDayz 12-31-2012 08:07 AM
I really hoped we'd have heard he was gone by now.... Let's hope 2:00 is the magic...

MahiMike 12-31-2012 08:12 AM
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That's what I was saying in the 'do you come back to Arrowhead' thread/poll.

The "I'm out until Pioli is gone" option that's running away with the poll is just stupid. If Scott Pioli is retained, it's Clark Hunt that will have to go before I come back.

If Pioli returns, he's not the problem. At that point we have Bill Bidwell in charge. Or Mike Brown. Or William Clay Ford.

Clark Hunt will join that list of infamously horrid owners. And he won't join the list of meddlesome ones that want to win like Snyder or Jones or Davis. Those guys at least manage to win stuff here and there. No, he's going to join the list full of disinterested, cheap one who sucks the peniss that don't care about the team and want nothing more than to take your money and employ their buddies. Bidwell, Brown, Ford....Hunt.

And here's the good news, fellas - he's young. He's really really young.

He's going to outlive 1/2 of this board.

If he brings back Scott Pioli, this team is dead to me until Hunt is gone. I will not have a billionaire tell me to **** myself and then shake me by my feet for loose change.
Are there any more Pakistani Billionaires in this country that can buy Clark out?

Rasputin 12-31-2012 08:25 AM
I don't get how Clark Hunt would spend that extra money for the remodel of Arrowhead just to see an empty stadium. That's what he is going to get.

BlackHelicopters 12-31-2012 08:27 AM
ChUNT and glASS? Thanks sports deities.

notorious 12-31-2012 08:29 AM
Fans are idiots.

He will get a different QB, and the stadium will be full next year until everyone figures out we suck again.

Dayze 12-31-2012 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9257434)
I don't get how Clark Hunt would spend that extra money for the remodel of Arrowhead just to see an empty stadium. That's what he is going to get.
and don't forget the taxpayers. thanks Clark!!

Dieselhed 12-31-2012 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9257451)
Fans are idiots.

He will get a different QB, and the stadium will be full next year until everyone figures out we suck again.
^^^^ This


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