My Q from another thread:

If Hunt finds out that Pioli is leaking information to the media, I would imagine that Fat Scott could be fired for cause. Therefore, I doubt that chowder-smelling **** is doing any talking.

No it doesn't. Ever heard of the Rooney Rule? You know every team has to interview a black coach? Right.

Remember when breaking news was:

Andy Reid to interview with the Cardinals.

Andy Reid interviewed with the Cardinals.

Andy Reid made no decision with the Cardinals.

Andy Reid left Arizona.

I'm sure they just threw a dart at a board filled with every black candidate in the NFL and it landed on Keith Armstrong.

To be perfectly honest, I can see why it would be interpreted that way.

I'm saying that it doesn't make sense.

Clark came straight out and said what he wanted yesterday. So either he is lying straight out our someone is floating stuff for some reason.

And I know he said he wanted to develop Qb and then hired Pioli and we didn't.

The organization supposedly is changing the way things are ran, maybe because things weren't happening as the owner wished
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Finally, someone willing to use the contents of their brain pan.

No amount of smileys will make you less of a dipshit.

Dude people have tracked Clark's plane before. Why isn't someone saying he wad in Atlanta today?
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He's interviewing Dirk Koetter, doing a token interview with Armstrong absolutely makes sense while he's right there. Saves Clark money on jet fuel...

I guess this board has been nothing but 10 years of hand wringing then.

That's the whole point of this place - to have discussions.

Kyle might as well shit it down if it pisses people off that we're discussing the search for the next HC.

John Clayton said Reid was waiting to hear from several teams including the Chiefs before he makes his decision.

Wouldn't it have to be in his contract for that to be grounds for firing with cause? Come on.

The NFL Front Offices/HCs such an 'incestuous league of many trees' which means everybody knows everybody with much respect AND much animosity.

Politics,politics,politics unfortunately play a bigger role than we would like determining GM/HC because all we fans want is a winning SB team. And if you haven't seen the series episode of a "Football Life" 'Cleveland 95' then it would be worth your while to see it what we are dealing with because Pioli gets a huge play in this episode and what we are dealing with as long as Scott still has his job.

Not good as long as he is still the Chiefs GM.:rolleyes:

I went back and looked at those threads.

Those aren't Clark's plane.

No shit, Einstein.

The point was that the rumors have merit and they aren't just "shit being flung hoping it sticks."

I don't think so. Direct order from your boss and you defy it in as public a manner as possible?

There is no doubt no end to contractual language that would cover insubordination.

I would think it would have to be in writing.

How are you going to prove he breached a verbal contract?

And?

Who ****ing cares who he interviews? He isn't gonna hire the ****ing Falcons ST coach.

It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that he is already going to be in Atlanta. Armstrong my be the person used to satisfy the Rooney Rule for various teams this year. Since every team has to do this it only makes sense to get it over with ASAP.

Goddammit, Parker.

He's not interviewing in ATL today, because you can't prove it.

Stop talking.

I'm not worried about the Chiefs hiring the Falcons ST coach.

Chiefs Roundup is trying to discredit every report as being shit flung hoping it sticks.

I can understand people being concerned that Pioli isn't outright fired. I don't know why. But, to ignore the owners own words is silly. Pioli isn't hiring the new coach, he isn't scouting players, he won't be talking to the media in any form, meaning he is not director of football operations, and is powerless. Again, I don't know why he's still there, maybe Clark likes him wants him to take a smaller job in the organization, maybe it's about money. I don't know. When asked about Pioli's future, Clark said there are more changes coming.

To me it's very smart to hold on to Pioli until alot of the changes have been made. Just think about it. Pioli has been scouting for the team, has all of the inside information about the teams plans that even though he would be gone, the information would be very detrimental to the teams plans.
That is probably why he put a muzzle on everyone until they get their pink slip. He needs to keep Pioli on the sidelines until certain decisions are final. I am confident now that Pioli is gone when no more damage can be done.

Clark has already started this process on the wrong foot by not getting rid of the cancer that is Fat Scott.

Clark is well intentioned but he is hopelessly out of his league on this.

I can't prove he's NOT there either. :evil:

That was never said. He may be, then again he might not be.

You are the one saying over and over he's in Atlanta interviewing people today.

I just asked for a link showing he actually is. Why does that upset you?

Reports aren't always true.

I find it funny that Clark says he will hire the new hc on his own then the first two reports are we will interview guys under Pioli's buddy , who also don't match the criteria Clark put out in his interview.

Something doesn't add up, sorry I question it.
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**** you. I'll talk whenever the **** I want and you'll like it. **** you.

It's pretty stupid to believe Pioli is just a man in a suit, imo.

He's getting paid no matter if he's fired or not.

Die in an AIDS tree fire doused with antifreeze!!!

Did I do it right?

Your damn right it doesn't add up.

Bullshit.

Keep the scouts and select members of the scouting department during the transition period but there is no reason to keep Fat Scott.

The "inside information" he has resulted in 2 wins this year... that "inside information" is toxic nuclear waste. It is worthless.

:clap:

My comment about hoping something would stick was about the majority of the rumors we hear flying around. Some will be right and some will be someone reporting something because it makes sense in thier own minds based on past facts along with the fact that Pioli is still here and the media, as a whole, don't know shit and they are for the most part "guessing" = hoping something sticks and turns out to be correct.
That post was also in response to the OP not any post in the thread. Because I didn't read the thread before I made that initial post.

You should probably start a "Is Clark a Lying Sack of Shit" thread.

We are ****ed.

The longer Pioli is here...the more likely he is going to remain the GM for the new few seasons and hire some push-over HC.

The sky is falling in my life right now people...

He's missed out on Reid. With as much power as he's going to give a HC, he's gonna have to pull an ace out of his sleeve

Hmmm...I'm not part of the antifreeze/AIDS Tree.

I've always been a proponent of the GoFistYourself Way.

OTWP might be a better judge.

I've been saying this for 36 hours.

Doesn't mean all of these reports are a lie. As Parker pointed out, it's likely just Clark doing his due diligence.

There's a big difference between things not adding up, and completely dismissing media reports because you think Scott Pioli is leaking false information.

On top of this. With him putting the muzzle on Pioli, if any of the wrong information gets out (from Pioli's mouth) will be a reason to fire him without pay.

Pioli is hiring the coach?

The scouts are all Pioli cronies. Some of them reportedly don't have a ****ing clue about how to scout players.

No...Clark is "hiring" the coach. :rolleyes:

Someone beat me to it.
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It needs work.

See Flopnuts or Deez for instruction.

Wow. Why would Hunt go on the radio and lie for Pioli?

He didn't miss out on Reid if he's working out a deal with Cowher right now. :)

Clark will need to make a swift hiring, or we primed for posters to grant the new HC/GM an "evaluation year" when we're holding the #1 overall pick.

Most important pick in franchise history. Not even close. And we have to hit a HR.

$$$$$$$$

So you firmly believe Clark lied?

What possible reason do you have for remaining a fan then?

Again maybe that why things aren't adding up. Just trying to have An actual conversation here showing a different viewpoint than your own. Sorry if that offends you
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Use words.

PROVE THAT HE'S TALKING TO COWHER RIGHT NOW!!!1


WAHRRGRGRAABBBBLE

If Clark doesn't hit a HR with this hire, fans aren't coming back.

They need a reason to believe and Keith Armstrong, Dirk Koetter or Doug Marone isn't filling Arrowhead to even 1/3rd capacity.

PM Bob Dole.

Explain that you need help with fisting.

I wasn't talking about Scott's plans, I was talking the information Pioli has on Hunt's plans.

Clark wasn't the guy who was supposed to be bringing in a QB for competition last year. Pioli isn't the guy who just said he was going to hire a vet coach with experience. I don't see a good reason to connect the two into a "fooled me once..." type scenario.

Clark will hire a coach...but he will hire someone he knows will get along with Pioli. Thus, he can avoid a buyout...

Is it that hard to grasp...?

Clark was just trying to please all of us yesterday with his interviews. Get your heads out of your asses...who is our GM right now? Apparently, Clark is NOT in a rush to find a new GM...rather CLARK is trying to find someone who is willing to work with Pioli...

THAT is why we are targeting Special Teams Coaches...

I think that Hunt should recruit his new GM from The Planet. Since so many here claim to have the right answer and solution about everything.

Nobodies sources inside the organization have sent them any update emails lately. That's a point in favor of Clark actually handling this search himself.

Scott Pioli talked to Peter King Sunday night.

Is all of this misinformation being spread coming from Pioli? Of course not.

But you'd have to be very naive to believe NONE of it is coming from him.

As removed as Clark is from the fanbase, it's my opinion that he does realize this. It's going to get done sooner rather than later, it just has that "feel" to it.

That said, what are the chances he's eyeballing someone not able to interview at this time? I'm not sure who is in the playoffs that would constitute a "big name hire".

No reason to go on being a fan then. It's over.

Right?

No I am not. I do think a lot of the "reports" we hear come from "insider" information. I don't think all of these reports have "insider" information.
I do think they are doing thier jobs by getting people excited and talking and following and so on.
Surely you don't think all or even the majority of the reports you hear are correct.

i.e. Peter King says no to Ferentz to KC while Ian Rappaport says Ferentz is interviewing tomorrow. Only one of these guys is going to be right.
One of these guys has real info one doesn't. But either way they are making thier respective place of employment money by generating all of the hype and traffic to websites and so on.

I say we let the women do the wailing and rending of clothing.

FAX

Just take off the blinders and you will see...

It's funny that OTWP believes what Whitlock said, believes about Haley but refuses to even entertain the thought Pioli could be sending out misinformation
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I have little doubt that Dr. Evil has machinations in the works. I mean, it's second-nature to the psychotic bastard.

Also, I am firmly in the Clark Hunt camp at this time. I'm very proud of our young owner, I believe him, and am looking forward to the events sure to transpire over the next few months.

FAX

I don't have blinders on at all.

I have made a conscious choice to believe Clark was telling the truth. If he's lying, I have ZERO reason to continue being a fan.

So before I make that kind of drastic decision, I am going to wait for the TRUTH instead jumping to conclusions.

Clark hires a HC who can work with Pioli.

Pioli is retained.

I don't see where Clark lied...?

I think you are missing my point....

I guess this discussion about interviews and the media just doesn't seem useful to me. I have no problem believing that:

a.) Clark is interviewing some Falcons guys

and

b.) that in this Twitter journalism age where being first is more important than being right (not just in sports; remember the early reports from the Newton, CT tragedy?), agents and executives will manipulate reporters to gain leverage with their clients/targets.

One of my favorites!

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Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet
Just heard the same thing... RT @MikeGarafolo: Andy Reid has not interviewed with the Cardinals yet.


LMAO

Clark did indicate yesterday that he has people consulting or assisting him during this HC hiring process.

He didn't say who these people are and with Fat Scott still part of the organization, his influence can't be discounted.

The official logo of people on this message board who cry "Don't panic over crappy results in the preseason, it means nothing towards predicting regular season results".

FAIL.

Of course Pioli could be sending out misinformation.

But regarding the interview in ATL?

Highly doubtful, considering every reputable NFL writer/reporter is reporting the same thing.

Ferentz? More likely, considering that died off almost immediately after people realized it originated from some rube in Iowa.

Some of you act as if Pioli runs the media, and that's just ridiculous.

And as Deez pointed out, Clark asked everyone associated with the organization to ****ing zip it.

So if we're NOT interviewing Koetter, Horton, etc, then Clark knows Pioli's talking, which can be used against Pioli in the buyout/legal process.

Basically, if 40 media members report the same thing, it's probably relatively solid info.

If some slapdick from Bumble****, Iowa says we're interviewing Kirk Ferentz, and no one else bothers to run with it, you can probably ignore it.

See, if Hunt was lying that he alone is picking a new coach, and from here on is running the franchise, just to appease the fans, it didn't work. Why not go all the way with the lie? Why not just say that he's fired? Make a press release. Fans rejoice, and Pioli, as some here think is happening anyway, can go on controlling the team in secret? I mean if your gonna lie, lie, so that people aren't scratching their heads.

The first thing I think we all can admit is that this is an extremely confusing situation with tons of moving parts. Rumors have been out there (and not exactly ever debunked) that Pioli signed an extension early in the season. For obvious reasons, Clark Hunt would never want this information to become public knowledge. Well, Sunday night and Monday morning, we start to hear that Pioli is "safe". Where would this information be coming from? It can't be from Clark Hunt because his statements to everyone that would listen are that the GM is not safe and that he (Hunt) will be hiring the next head coach.

So we have a seemingly neutered GM and owner fighting over a buyout/firing. If Pioli is fired, he takes the money, simple as that. What does Pioli have on his side to force Hunt's hand? The complete and understandable hatred and fury we have for Pioli. What is going to rush the process for Hunt to make the decision for Hunt to fire Pioli? Season ticket renewals and fan outrage. What better way to fan the flame than to start linking Pioli cronies to the Chiefs HC position? I know my blood boils even thinking about Ferentz being even interviewed, much less hired by the Chiefs. He meets NONE of the criteria that Hunt specifically listed. That truly makes me believe that any connections to Ferentz is 100 percent a Pioli manipulation of the media. I see no other option.

As far as Clark Hunt goes, I do not know how comfortable I am having Clark out selecting a new head coach on his own. I am hoping he has brought in some consultants to help him with the process. As far as Clark's ability to lure in the big name. . . . I guess he did get the last big name he went after (Pioli).

What I am trying to do. . . and what I think is best for Chiefs fans to do right now is just relax and let the process run its course. I do not see a way that Clark can ever bring Pioli back. No good coach would work with Pioli and the fans would burn arrowhead down if it is another Romeo Crennel type New England cronie.

again nfln is reporting TODAY that ferentz is on our radar.

Today. Albert breer. nfln today.


Ohhhhhh and Reid has taken a job he hasn't interviewed for
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EVERYBODY ran with it. Every major member of the NFL media has linked Ferentz to KC in the last 72 hours and the guys on NFLN were still doing it today.