Why should the Hunt family pay $7.5 million to fire Pioli when they can hang him out to dry and possibly get out of paying him money due?

**** Pioli. Feed him to the vultures.

Fat Scott is a cancer. His continued presence, even in a hung out to dry way only tortures Chiefs fans (Fat Scott could care less) and creates a confusing situation for potential HC's.

Pay him his $7.5 million and ban him from One Arrowhead Drive forever.

So far so good...

He's pretty much castrating Pioli in front of the whole NFL, if in fact he's doing what he said he was.


But his actions are exactly showing that yet.

And I'm sure you through around that kind of dough on a daily basis without any regards.

Come on.

Really haven't been any actions we know of yet
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This is kinda how I feel.


Apparently all those words made some feel warm and cuddly, but until you do something, color me unimpressed.

Clark said money will not be a restriction towards building a winner.

Removing Fat Scott from the organization is a key part of building a winner.

No not what I meant.

That we know of. I can almost bet there have been quite a few actions taking place in the last 48 hours.

In fact I guarantee it. Clark just likes to keep things quiet. We didn't hear about Pioli until it was almost done iirc
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Treat this like divorce.

Get it over with ASAP, and move on.

I'm sure there are, but until we actually see actions, I'm a little skeptical.

Probably like you or me throwing away $100...

LMAO

You expect to see "actions" on New Year's Eve and New Year's Day?

:shake:

Understandable
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I think Clark's done the right thing so far. Let's get the HC we want first. While the idea of Pioli as a shuffling stooge to the new HC is appealing, I want that jerk out of my town and away from my Chiefs. This is just something temporary until a serverance package can be worked out.

No, didn't expect anything to happen this fast.


Just saying until it does, I'm a little skeptical. I have been a CHiefs fan over 20 years so until I see it happen, I'm a little shaky.

Wow, 20 years.

Get in line behind us old timers that have been fans since the late 60's.

Mercy.

I am holding judgement until coach is in place and new GM is being searched for...

Eh, sorry if what I said upset you, just saying that I'm not gonna get excited or too pissed until I see what actually happens.


I like what Clark said, but I've liked what others have "said" then been shit on by what they do.

Where is the Gaz option Shogun? Come on, you're better than this! (butt slap) Get it together kid, see ya tomorrow.

It is hard to feel sorry for the guys who are old enough to have seen this team win a Superbowl...

It meant that my parents bought an endless supply of Chiefs pajamas. I was four at the time and they STILL buy me Chiefs merchandise for birthdays and Christmas, albeit at a highly discounted rate as of late.

:D

What is this "super" "bowl" you speak of?

Should I break out some orange kush or bean soup?

if he follows through and emasculates Pioli I give him an A

I'm in the wait and see category. I like what he said, but in the end as long as Pioli is still coming to the office I have my doubts on what is really going on. Finally having one of the teams in the Truman complex with an active, involved, caring owner would be a breath of fresh air. Outside of SKC, we haven't had that since Kaufman died.

LOL, fair enough.

It is generally known as the last Patriots game of the season.

Glad he is putting his hand to the rudder. I definitely approve of that.

Too soon to say on the coach/GM situation. None of the Sunday rumors correctly forecasted Monday's events. I'll wait to see how things unfold without getting all caught up in the rumor of the moment. A lot of it is disinformation and we have no way of sorting the wheat from the chaff.

I've caught wind of these "super" "bowls". Get on your mount! we're off to Mordor! The Golum awaits us!

Pioli still is employed, so No

You're a ****ing n00b.

:D

No. I am extremely disappointed that Scott has been retained in any fashion. He had all season long to get this done. All this is doing is stringing us along for another month or two. I don't like that Pioli's fate is decided by the next head coach.

While I would rather Pioli be gone completely... I understand that there is a small matter of 7 million dollars to consider. It is easy enough for you or I to tell Clark to just pay the guy to go away but... it is 7 million dollars. Perhaps Clark feels that if he is going to have to pay the guy 7m that he should get some value out of him. He makes no roster decisions at all and just manages the business side of the club for a year until his contract expires. Hunt hires a HC that handles all football ops who then has a say in who replaces Pioli next season.

I say that no... I do not approve of how Clark is handling this thing but I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for a while longer. I will support any coach Hunt selects. I may not be thrilled with the choice... I may even question it. But I'll give it the requited 4 seasons before I start grumbling.

Given the fact that most members of Chiefsplanet are unlikely to throw away $7 dollars, let alone $70 dollars or $700 dollars or $7,000 dollars or $70,000 dollars or $700,000 dollars, I think that after 72 hours, Chiefs fans should give Clark a chance to make this right.

But that's just me.

I'm fine with it as long as it works out. I am trusting that whoever Clark is interested in at HC is going to be explained in full detail what Clark is doing with Pioli right now and that he won't be an issue next season.

JFC.

This team has sucked for ****ing 40 years, yet now, people are impatient after 40 hours?

Beyond dumb.

Has nothing to do with impatience. As long as him working this out doesn't cost him his coach, I am willing to wait it out.

People have been patiently waiting to see something done for quite some time. Monday was supposed to be the day we were going to get our answers one way or another. Instead we are back in limbo for another month or two. Totally reasonable for people to get frustrated with that.

The next month or two should prove to be interesting at the very least.

Por Que?

Some people are worried that the coach Clark is interested in won't want to work here since Pioli is still employed. The original post of mine you quoted I was saying that Clark is going to make it clear to those candidates that the Pioli issue will be resolved.

I honestly don't know what all the fuss is about. I'm totally impressed with Clark on this deal.

Wanted to get rid of Coswell? Check.
Wanted to get rid of Roleo? Check.
Wanted more involvement from the owner? Check.
Wanted Pioli to be humiliated beyond belief? Check and Done.

Now, it's true that Pioli has yet to receive his formal walking papers, but that's merely a matter of time. No owner of anything (let alone an NFL franchise) is going to publicly urinate on his GM's head then keep him around unless it's for financial reasons only. And, to be perfectly honest, instead of paying Dr. Evil's early termination buy-out, I'd rather Clark use the money on better players.

I urge all interested parties to immerse their nuts in a nice, warm testicle bath for a few days while the details get worked out. Nothing soothes the fevered soul like a good junk dunk.

FAX

LOL! Well said.

Their patience is a large part of why they haven't done much in 40yrs. Carl Peterson is a perfect example of that. 20yrs of patience, 15yrs too long.

I'm not satisfied. Pioli or bust. The only reason Hunt hasn't fired him yet is because he isn't going to. I'm betting that the Chiefs think a new hire in a month or 2 will cool enough of the fan base to forget about Pioli. And they will be right.

I've been thinking about this, and I don't think it's about the money. Not entirely anyway. I have no doubt Scott Pioli is on his way out the door, but why wait? When you think about the failure of the football team, that's one thing, and it's bad enough. However when you think about just how alienated the fan base is, over being essentially told to **** ourselves with a rusty, AIDS fork by the front office for the last 4 years. How player charities have been shut down. Radio and TV shows by players, shut down. How former players are excluded from participation on any level. How there are a **** ton of former employers suing the club over age discrimination. There is a lot more than 2-14 going on here.

Scott Pioli came in here and completely broke this proud, storied franchise of 53 years down in only 4 years. And it wasn't just winning and losing. The whole thing tumbled down in 4 short years. To the point that Clark had to change the entire business model to ensure that something like this could never happen again. I think it's principal for Clark. I think Clark is essentially saying "You either quit, or I'll have you serving ****ing hot dogs in the concourses next year!" I genuinely think Clark is having a hard time from a moral perspective to reward that fraud, and thief one more penny for everything he's done. At least I sure as **** hope so...

As far as my satisfaction? I said on Facebook yesterday that I didn't think there was any way I could have foreseen being so in love with a team 3 days after the end of the worst season I'd ever witnessed in my life. Clark Hunt most certainly gives a shit about Kansas City Chiefs football, and there isn't anything that could make me happier than that. Because he's the only guy around that has any say so that will be there longer than me.

To early to tell. Poll fail

Once he fires Pioli I'll then approve

No. I would feel much more confident about landing a top tier coaching candidate if there wasn't an embattled GM hanging around in limbo while the CEO works on a plan to get out of paying him. Like everything related to this organization, it reeks of dysfuction.

I agree with this. Clark Hunt made me a fan again of him & renewed confidence that better days & years are ahead of us. He was not a happy camper by any streatch of imagination. I could see the pain he held on to this past year. With or with out Pioli / be damned. I think Clark Hunt is determined to make this a winning organization & is willing to change long time belief that it's about the GM and now puting the control into the hands of the Coaches with direct line to owner. That is huge for growth with the young owner in Clark Hunt.

This video was probably posted somewhere, but I can't embed it. It's KCTV's exclusive interview with Clark. Nothing really new, but I did like seeing Clark's response to fans flying banners over the stadium, and saying he felt our pain and was miserable himself through the season.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/20480591/...-power-from-gm

As tragic as the Belcher murder suicide was, I think it turned the corner for Clark to be apart of the team to be there for them. Instead of being on the outside. He does care about his team and the fans. I can understand why he chose not to speek during the season to the fans. It was his flustration as much as ours.

I can see growth in Clark as an owner & think he is only going do his best to make the best decisions he can going forward for the best interest of the team. Not saying they will always be the best decisions but the intent to make the right decisions ways heavy on his shoulders.

This.

No. Pioli should be fired by now.

if the story about clark not changing his mind on pioli until he spoke with manning is true...that is frightening...cassel, haley, crennel, and 2-14 weren't enough for Clark to break up with his bro-friend (and all rumors point to Clark having given pioli an extension...Matt Cassel got pioli an extension...that is not the sign of a smart, involved owner)

by every objective measure pioli is a failure and deserves to be fired unceremoniously...but Clark is a delicate thing, and so we have to wait

if you squint, you can see all this as a way of preserving a place for Clark's best hj brah pioli while giving fans the appearance that pioli has been punished..fast forward a month and we've hired a coach who - surprise - is ok with pioli and they - together - are preparing for another disastrous pioli draft, while hiring more pioli flunky coordinators...and Clark still gets to play farmville with his papa bear (Clark is a bottom, natch)

oh, and we trad for Smith...since Clark has never said drafting a QB is a priority (he was extra weaselly on this point in the interview on 810)...8-8 y'all, pony up!

of course, if Pioli's termination papers are sitting on Clark's desk waiting for lawyers to argue over exit $$, then the preceding fantasy is wrong and Clark is the Man...

So, while my post is the optimistic viewpoint, the posts are still pretty much the same. If it's all a big sham, I don't think either one of us are going to be in different spots. Outside, looking the other direction, and not giving a ****.

I want to believe in Clark Hunt more than I do believe in Clark Hunt.

I don't have a delusion that he is going man up and fire Scott Pioli. I do think there is a big chance that he does fire Scott Pioli. I hate the waiting "it's a process"

whatever happens, pioli has to be fired or it is a waste of time...at that point, fans have to choose whether they'll support an owner who thinks so little of them...

i feel the same way about drafting a QB, it's non-negotiable for my continued fandom...but I don't believe Clark really cares about that, and a lot of fans would be just fine drafting a LB and acquiring yet another vet cast off...i think there is a very high probability this could go down

This.

So Chunt neuters Pisoli on Monday yet drags him along to interviews in Atlanta. JFC

Where is the too soon to tell option. That is the ONLY fair option at this point.

Incomplete

Until I see the final final, I have no comment. Pioli MUST BE GONE, and we have to find a GM and Coach who can get us over this Godforsaken playoff winless hump.

No.

What if the new coach keeps Pioli and together they win a playoff game? :evil:

Anyone care to change their vote? :)

Agreed. Can we wait until we see the end results before we decide what is good or bad?

Except that Dane expected to see Clark interview several candidates.

Looks like he's essentially going to hire his 2nd interview.

If he has the guy he wants in front of him he pulls the trigger or you risk losing him.

I know.

I'm just saying that crossbow was agreeing with him even though is pretty apparent Clark isn't going to do what Dane though he was going to do (fall in love with the first guy he sees, essentially).

Yes... At least he now appears alive and involved. I was calling for him to sell the team to somebody who cared, or maybe the fans like Green Bay. I'm just glad to see him active...

Now I approve :toast:

Now, Yes I approve.

We still don't have a QB...

Changing my vote to :rockon:

Redo the poll?

AND HE DID IT

HISSSSSSSS WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Now, Yes I approve.

He took a four year vacation. Why should anybody be happy about the job he has done?

Here's the thing about Hunt.

You'll recall... after Arrowhead Anxiety and after the fans got blasted by the media for booing Cassel, who made statements? Clark Hunt and Mark Donovan gladly obliged to Babb's interviews, Pioli did not nor did he address it later. Clark Hunt made a statement defending the fans, while Pioli waited a week to make an ungenuine apology. Who was the guy wanting to fix the QB problem? Sounds pretty clear Hunt wanted Peyton, while Pioli was saying definitively that Cassel is the starter and went on a propaganda tour to support his guy.

It's confusing to me that despite all this, Hunt extended Pioli anyway. But even when the Chiefs got bashed publicly, it was Hunt, not Pioli, that took the reins in fixing it.

That the NFL has as many owners that allow the coach to hire ''his own'' GM has to be unprecedented. Those two positions should be mutually exclusive and both should report directly to the owner and allow him to weigh the recomendations of both men.

LMAO