We are gonna have around 30 million in cap room when Jackson and Cassel are cut.

That's outstanding.

After today chiefs are over the cap. Goodbye Cassel and Jackson

Cut Studebaker's worthless ass as well.

Maybe we can restructure Halis contract.

I got the chiefs at 8.8m over right now.

Albert- 9.8m
Bowe-4m
Dustin - Guessing around 2.5m



Chiefs are 8.8m Over the cap right now

lol at the fans on here that are hoping for a "FA" splash

time to wake up homers

I will say this though

you do know there is a 14 million carry over coming March 12 right

did you factor that? that alone puts us under and I think cutting Jackson frees up like 15 million against the cap, you can potentially sign 2 to 3 good players with that space

After Cassel and Jackson chiefs will have 10.8m in cap space.

Factoring in Smith?

March 12 we get an extra 14 million for the new league year so our cap number is actually like 137 million technically.

Yup http://www.kansascity.com/2013/03/01...illion-in.html

Yes

Nice. Hopefully they can get Albert on long term to lessen his cap hit.

all im learning last year is Pioli spent a lot of money to field a 2-14 team, one of the highest payrolls of 2012.

that is really sad

Cutting Studebaker saves the chiefs 2.05m Well Bye

Sad that Cassel and Jackson count for nearly 30 million and we only save half that by cutting them.

The fact that Albert's situation would have a fairly significant impact on our cap situation tells me that they are indeed going to try to extend him to a long term deal before July 15th and forgo drafting Joeckel/Fisher.

Anyone else we could potentially cut?

Chiefs’ 2013 salary cap figures

Player Base salary Cap number*
DE Tyson Jackson $14,720,000 $17,470,000
LB Tamba Hali $12,250,000 $ 15,500,000
DB Eric Berry $7,009,000 $10,211,700
QB Matt Cassel $7,500,000 $9,825,000
QB Alex Smith $7,500,000 $9,750,000
CB Brandon Flowers $7,350,000 $9,600,000
OL Eric Winston $4,900,000 $6,500,000
RB Jamaal Charles $1,750,000 $4,333,333
LB Derrick Johnson $2,250,000 $3,500,000
DL Dontari Poe $904,456 $2,572,728
PK Ryan Succop $1,950,000 $2,400,000
WR Jon Baldwin $1,061,510 $2,059,528
LB Andy Studebaker $2,055,000 $2,055,000
OL Jon Asamoah $1,323,000 $1,551,030
TE Tony Moeaki $1,323,000 $1,494,662
WR Dexter McCluster $630,000 $1,400,000
DB Kendrick Lewis $1,323,000 $1,374,725
OL Jeff Allen $591,083 $1,055,415
CB Javier Arenas $630,000 $ 1,003,750

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/03/01...#storylink=cpy


Everyone else is under a million

Man, Charles really got screwed.

JFC that list is so sickening. Jackson cant get off the payroll fast enough.

lol Studebaker must have had some black mail on Scooter to get that contract holy hell

lolz

How does the equation work to figure how much of a cap savings we get for cutting a player?

Jackson was given a new contract last year...shouldn't his whole salary come off the books?

So we should:

Cut Cassel. Slash Jackson. Cut Studebaker. Restructure Tamba/Berry. Extend Albert.

Boom.

Nope still on the hook for signing bonus

Pioli is like an STD. He just keeps infecting us over (Jackson) and over (Cassel) and over (stalling Bowe) and over (Albert) and over (Carr) and over (picking Stephenson over Wilson) and over again.

[x]
4/21/2012: Signed a two-year, $21.97 million contract. The deal contains $4 million guaranteed, including a $2.5 million option bonus. Another $500,000 is available through playing-time incentives. 2013: $14.72 million (+ $250,000 workout bonus), 2014: Free Agent

You are forgetting his rookie deal. 1 more year of his rookie signing Bonus





Tyson Jackson to get $31 million guaranteed
Posted by NBC Sports on August 7, 2009, 12:08 PM EST

Chiefs defensive end Tyson Jackson is on his way to training camp, and he’ll be a very rich man when he arrives.

Nick Wright of KCSP radio in Kansas City has alerted PFT that Jackson’s deal is for five years and $57 million, with $31 million guaranteed. Jackson was the third overall pick in April’s draft.

Agents of other rookie holdouts, especially Seahawks linebacker Aaron Curry, will be examining all the particulars of Jackson’s deal closely.

If the figures hold up, Jackson will receive only $2 million less in guarantees than number two pick, Rams T Jason Smith.

Last year’s third pick, Matt Ryan, received $34.75 million guaranteed on a $66 million contract, receiving the usual quarterback premium.

It’s not a huge surprise Jackson missed so much of training camp. The third overall pick has been a difficult spot in rookie negotiations dating back to Larry Fitzgerald, Braylon Edwards, and Vince Young.

It’s unclear when Jackson will begin practicing, but Wright reports that Jackson began his journey to training camp early Friday morning.

I wonder if Hali is approached about restructuring his deal.

His 2014 number 11.5m 2015 12m I just don't see how restructuring helps us out. Do you really wanna add years to his deal ? When his current contract is up he will be 32 going on 33.

Good news and good links. Hoping AR/Dorsey manage wisely. A Lombardi scooner.

I'm dumb.

I looked up that shit yesterday and completely forgot about his next 2 years.

We can clear a lot of cap space by:
1) Cutting/Restructuring TJax.
2) Cutting Cassel.
3) Restructuring/Trading Tamba Hali
4) Extending/Restructuring Eric Berry

Uh we better not trade Tamba Hali. That would be stupid.

Would it, if it netted us a pass-rusher in the draft?

Probably too early but Baldwin sure doesn't seem worth 2 million either.

Who did you have in mind?

Yeah you know what you got with Tamba, a proven pro bowler. You have no idea what you are getting in the draft.

There is a part of me that craves to see Barkevious Mingo developed into a monster in red.

Dear God Jackson's rookie contract was highway robbery.

After Jackson deal chiefs are 3.7m under

GTFO Cassel and Studebaker.

Post Tyson & Winston number we have 4,593,009 space

Thought I'm reading now we save 3.5 mil.

700k


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Release of Eric Winston by Chiefs saves $700K in cap space but $4.9 million in cash http://wp.me/p14QSB-7xfK

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CORRECTION: @corryjoel / @brian_mcintyre confirm new breakdown for Winston's deal, now $3M in dead money, $3.5M saved

He's not looking at the dead money it's only 700k chiefs save

I don't know who is right but that guy clearly stated what the dead money is too.


Obviously he's looking at it
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After Cassel, we will have over 10m available, right? Closer to 14?

How long do we have to wait until Cassel is cut? Like, how long before it's "no teams interested in trading anything for Cassel, better cut him before we suffer a financial blow?"

Cassel wont be cut till the Alex Smith deal is complete.

I'm dumb too. I had know idea once he was 32 he would be going on 33 :D

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@ArrowheadAddict Seemed clear. Knew how badly they wanted to keep Albert, some great tackles in the draft, cutting Winston saves $4M in cap

Surely to god we wouldn't lock up Albert then draft a RT at 1?

Will they use Winston's money to sign Albert to an extension and make some cap room?

How do we know?

Instant cassettes?

Just seems pointless to tag Albert at LT if their plan is to draft an LT and play him at RT?? If you want a franchise LT at number 1, than let Albert go and have Winston stay at RT. It would be cheaper as well

The 3.5 Winston cap savings basically means cutting Cassel and trading for Smith carries no additional cap increase for the Chiefs.

They should have between 10-13 million million at the start of FA.

+2.8

7.4

What do we save when we cut Cassel? If somebody trades a bag of chips for him, how much is saved then?

Studs baker should be gone, too...that's another 2m.

Cassels base was gonna be 7.5 and his whole cap hit was gonna be 9.8.

Any chance they made this move because they are about to pay Canty?

*something monopoly*

I'm not sold on the Winston 3.5m saving the numbers don't add up. Cassel saves 5.6m if cut if traded we save 9.8m, Andy 2m

5.875. Alex Smith will carry a 8.5 million dollar cap figure. I think Smith's already been figured into those numbers though.

Yes, the numbers add up. They lumped his workout bonuses in with his signing bonus, which was only 4 million.

I think more of them going after a big name corner, like sean smith or someone who wants money.

If the 3.5 is legit, that would put us at 15 under if they cut Cassel and Andy.

Right?

If its not right, that leaves us at around 12 under.

Yup

Maybe with that we end up getting Albert longterm and increase that 15 number?

Look for most teams to back load the contracts this year. 2014 new TV deals cap goes up.

Just wait for the rumors to start surfacing about them trying to clear cap space to give Alex Cassel his 100million dollar extension.

Therefor, re up Albert and back load the shit out of it.

Then when free agency hits, let Reid turn loose like.................well Reid in a candy store.

This is why it confused me that you were arguing against re-doing Tamba's deal and wanting to bite the bullet this year. If there is more room next year and after that wouldn't it be easier to push the money back?

I bet he gets a new deal 9.7m this year is high for him.

I just don't wanna add years to his deal. Hali at 33 wont be any good.

I've already got my Vick 100m and benched for a rookie the next year rebuttle ready and loaded.

Well that was part of your argument but it seemed you were also saying it just made more sense to keep the money on this year. If they want the $ to get a guy I don't mind it. Didn't he get a friendly contract anyway? I am not sure they are going to look for all this money to free up anyway. From the Dorsey perspective, he isn't going to be a guy looking to spend a ton in FA.

That's a weird situation though. Vick got hurt and when he came back the season was wasted already and Reid was out the door.

No Hali contract is awful for the team. 15m 2013 11.5m 2014 12m 2015