Yeah, I'll take 3 AFCCG's in 5 years.
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Hes frustrating to get a handle on. Hes just so inconsistent at times.
Maybe this will be his year? Sometimes we are too hard on guys if they dont win right away or dont win the big one in their first few years. Peyton didnt even win or make a Super Bowl until his 8th year in. |
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I would take him over Rivers right now, unless Rivers pulls his head out of his ass. Flacco to Gates would be awesome.
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As for the OP, yeah Flacco is a FR QB. Not yet elite but definitely has a chance once the older guys leave (Brady, Manning, Brees)
As for the Cunningham argument, that guy was/is a monster. Too bad he was early :( |
The problem with Cunningham was a lack of consistent accuracy, and the lack of ability to take some heat off his short passes.
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Flacco played fantastic tonight.
He beat Denver, at home, with Denver being spotted a TD. (2 returns - 1 pick 6). That is amazing. He completely turned me around tonight. |
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He's kind of like Eli to me. Not very consistent in the regular season and will lay an egg fairly often, but very good in the playoffs. I really think the Ravens are SB bound this year. |
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The latter part of your post, I don't. I'm a Tom nuthugger and fully expect him to beatdown the Texans and then eek out a win against Baltimore. |
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And if that happens, how would a win in Houston affect Flacco's potential legacy? |
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I think Schaub is a game manager, and I thought Flacco was too for the last few years, but over the last few playoff games he's played, he's stepped up. He outplayed Brady last year on the road, just outplayed Manning on the road and if he outplays Brady on the road again for the 2nd straight year, I think that would speak volumes to his development and launch him into the elite status. |
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I was railed, and told he wasn't
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I have little doubt this poll goes the other way if it was started on Friday. Reaction Planet.
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He proceeded to use him in a way that hindered his development and caused him to be injured often. I think it inspired Shanahan to get his QB killed as well, because he's doing his best to emulate how Ryan ruined Randall with RGIII. |
Let's try this again.
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Yep. Absolutely. If nothing else, this should show why you shouldnt pass on a potential top QB in the draft. QB is everything. Chiefs passed on Rodgers and Flacco and is it any coincidence their poor record since 2007?
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For years I thought he wasn't. He's slowly grown into the position. I'll take my Flaccrow with a side of hot sauce.
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Flacco will win. First round quarterbacks win Super Bowls.
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Joe Flacco: 6th road playoff win as starting quarterback, most all-time. |
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Hell yes he is. I wish he wore red.
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Okay, I guess I should bump this. What do we think now?
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Tyler Palko says no
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Okay, I'd like to change my vote now.
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Let's not rush to judgement. Let's give it another 5 years. /average Chiefs fan
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Needs more pelts /Scott P.
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He played a great game. Think Baltimore wants to take another shot at letting their QB go after a SB win?
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Joe Flacco in the past two years in the post-season: 15 TDs, 1 INT. Any more skeptics? |
I thought Flacco was pretty mediocre after the regular season and figured they'd be one and done in the playoffs. He has been playing lights out since then. Gotta give the guy credit.
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Well remember it wasn't but two months ago their team was in a tailspin, and Flacco lost a game to Charlie Batch, got slaughtered by the Broncos, etc.
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2008 is arguably this franchises best draft ever....
I would trade all of those players for Matt Ryan or Joe Flacco. :doh!: |
Amazing that 1/4 of the board said no to Joe Flacco.
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Suck my BALLS. Everyone.
I've been sucking Joe's for three seasons. |
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Flacco showed up for the entire post season. He's a franchise guy, obviously.
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Though I called him as a legit Franchise QB. |
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He has definitely turned a corner. For the longest he was a manager type whose best asset was not having brain farts. Tonight he was as elusive and extended plays as well as Kaepernik and Roethlisberger, and that's saying a lot. I'd say his propensity for not making mistakes is still his strong suit, but his mobility and sticking with the play to the bitter end has really made strides. Kaepernik probably actually outplayed him overall, but Flacco gets the hardware.
In the end, I was actually hoping that the 49ers would take the lead to see how Flacco responded. They showed him sitting on the sidelines as the 49ers were knocking at the door and he looked so serene, reminded me of Joe Cool Montana. Was really wanting to see if his calmness translated to crunch time performance. |
Also, he's another first round pick to win a Super Bowl.
Are the pig-****ing true fan ****ers over the "GET BETTER QB VALUE IN TEH 2ND ROUND!!!!111" bullshit yet? |
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Means you said he sucked before but now think he is great-LOL LMAO |
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I was never down on him. Show where I ever have been. |
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But in the end I thought the game was a classic example of why pocket QBs will never go out of style, no matter how appealing running QBs might look. That's not to say that Kaepernick doesn't have some passing tools, but he still has a ways to go. Smoke and mirrors got them pretty far, but even with that line, that running game, and Davis and Crabtree wreaking havoc when they had the ball, it just wasn't quite enough. And Flacco clearly outplayed him. It's not even a question. Which is kind of a shame. I hate seeing Ray Lewis go out with a win. |
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You'll hear the same $3it from the KC Star and sports talk for the next two months... |
There's not much to dislike about Flacco. I think he's a very good QB and over the next few years as that defense adjusts to the guys they're likely losing, we'll see how he does if it becomes more offense than the balance they've had the last 5 years.
It's a fun offense to watch and he makes big plays - again, not much to dislike about him and the production. |
For the Chiefs...whose your choice for QB?
Flacco or Kaepernick? I am choosing Flacco. |
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I think he is elite & a franchise QB for the Baltimore Ravens. I don't want him for our franchise. I want to draft our OWN franchise QB. So I'm not voting in this poll.
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He totally changed my tune in this last month, dude is legit.
Just reaffirms my preference for big, physical pocket passers... he made several throws under very heavy pressure, thats what those kinds of QB's can give you. |
The elite QB's were at home sitting on their asses watching Flacco and the Ravens win a Superbowl.
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Based on this year, he's pretty darn good quarterback, but more along the lines of a Ken Stabler or Bert Jones. Good, and obviously good enough, but not a franchise quarterback. He doesn't even hold sway over a linebacker on the team.
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He's very much like Eli Manning.
He's fairly erratic and not always terribly accurate. That said, he's not scared to unleash the ball downfield and he doesn't spook easily. Both the Ravens and Giants have done a good job of dealing with his occasional accuracy issues by hiding them behind a deep passing game. He's become a high risk/high reward, downfield passer and I think that's just a brilliant way to use a guy like that. It's really what the Bucs should be doing with Josh Freeman and if the Jets had any weapons, they should at least try it with Sanchez. The guys with middling accuracy just cannot run a short passing game. He's not a true 'franchise' QB in the sense that I don't think he's just going to go all Brady or Rodgers and make his entire team better - there are much much fewer of those in this league than most will admit. That said, I'd take him as my QB any day because he is absolutely a guy that can win for you (obviously) if put in the right situation. EDIT: What Rausch said. They're the same guy. |
If we are not already there, we are very near a point where the NFL regular season doesnt matter as much anymore.
Ravens were the 4th seed this year, Giants 4th seed last year, Packers 6th seed before that. Its become all about getting on a hot streak at the right time, and guys like Eli and Flacco tend to be very streaky. Who cares if you lose a few games in Sept or October?? |
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That's how I view a 'franchise' QB - a force multiplier that makes everyone else on his team better. Flacco doesn't do that, IMO. He's not an accurate enough passer for long enough stretches for that. Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Peyton are guys that can throw 50 footballs and hit their target 48 times. They're smart decisionmakers that can run any offense they're given. Flacco's not that level of guy. He's a very good quarterback and someone I would gladly have lead my team, but he's not to the level of the truly stellar, IMO. |
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Brady Brees P. Manning (?) Rodgers are the only really elite guys in the league, then there is a whole other tier of guys. I'll take a guy in that second tear in a second. You also dont know but that said second tier guy can't grow into the first tier. |
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