Geno throwing short outs to Harvin and Bowe to set up the long ball. I love it. Let's move the ****ing ball this year.

Maclin. He's not as explosive, but he's far more dependable and carries far less baggage.

And a local kid.

Didn't realize he is only 24.

1st pick of the 3rd round is a very good negotiating position. Makes any other team pony up that 2nd to beat us out for starters.

Better than the on KD we have? Wait what does that mean rape wise? Oh well worked for pittsburgh...

who really gives a shit about this? Whether we find impact players in Finland, Kansas or South Africa, I really don't care.

A local kid who produces is always good in restoring the fan base as quickly as possible since it has not been so kosher in KC lately these last 4yrs. But I get your point.

I see your point too but it reeks of desperation. i.e. Tebow to the Jags.

At least we'd trade that 2nd knowing we're gettin a great player. If we just keep the pick and use it to draft...who knows what we'll get.

Maclin vs Tebow ??? Maclin a desperation move ? Seriously ??? No way ! Maclin is a proven NFL player that produces 'consistently' But Tebow to Jags IS desperation as you say.

No one is worried about his issues with coaches?

The guy is a ****ing head case
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The head case part is scary. Def a crazy talent tho

I just think of how much better of an offense we'd have next year with GSIII, Harvin, a signed and happy Bowe, a signed and happy Albert, another year of maturation, and then pick up a few more pieces in the draft/free agency.

On paper we could look damn good.

...but that's what we all thought last year, too

a non weed smoking tamba would be swell as well

Darick Rodgers 2.2 dudes Green/Jones with baggage

Yep. That right there. Definitely a 1st pick in the 3rd rd is his value.

If the Vikings let Harvin walk next year, they get a comp third.

Enough of the "I'll take him for a 3rd" bullshit. You know who else would take him for a 3rd, every ****ing team in the NFL. He's going to cost more than a 3rd.

I agree that someone will take him for a 2nd. I would love to have him but I am also of the opinion that the first pick in the 2nd round is too high a price. Maybe in a year or two when this team has finally taken form it might be worth it for a player like him at this stage in his career but not now really.

Yeah, but nobody else has the #1 pick in the 3rd., which is essentially the 65th pick in the 1st.

Wha?

He's 24 years old.

Agreed, maybe a '14 2nd rounder?

Pretty much a guaranteed injury, but he'd be nice to have the other 10 weeks.

They would only get a comp pick if they let him and a couple others walk and didnt sign anybody to replace them.

Even then, the pick is at the end of the third round.

Our third is at the top of the third, at least 32 slots earlier than a comp third, that they would get the following year.

One also has to realize that whoever trades for him is doing so for him on what is basically a 1 year contract and he will probably require a big extension and we already have Bowe and Albert to pay.

I'd give a 2nd and a 4th...I don't give a rip.

Baggage is selling him a bit short. The guy's a trainwreck that makes Harvin look like a choir boy.

I'd look at him in the 3rd, but I'm not using 2.2 on a me-first guy that got thrown out of a program as lax as Tennessee.

I'd prefer Tavon Awesome with that R2.

Damn. I was thinking he was like 27. Well maybe I change my vote then.

You simple boy? :)

Most WRs are. The guy could be OJ Simpson id take him if hes Green or Jones hood

Green and Jones are as good as they are because they put the work in.

This kid won't. He's been beating guys up on wrong talent at Tennessee Tech; when he starts going against athletes as good as he is, he's going to fold.

Charles Rogers redux. Worlds of talent without the drive to put it to use or the impulse control to get the chance. I'd deal 2.2 away for picks next season before I used it on this guy.

you know what team will land Harvin?

The Patriots.

He's exactly what that team needs...and Belichick is the king of trading. Shit, he might even give them their 1st. He fits their only need on offense...someone to take the top off the defense.

I'd give them our 2nd and not blink twice...but that's as far as I would go. I wouldn't add a 5th, or a 4th, or a player...

if the Chiefs want him, shoot them that offer, and see if anyone beats it.

Pretty simple.

No, what I'm saying is that grabbing a local guy because they are local is desperation. I'm not commenting on Maclin specifically.

but like I said...if the Patriots resigned Welker and added Harvin to go along with Gronk and Hernandez? That's exactly what that team needs and everyone knows it. That's a Belichick dream trade.

I'd also gladly give up our 3rd for Maclin if we can't get Harvin...and wouldn't be mad about giving up our 2nd for him, either.

Is a guy like Percy Harvin worth 8 million per year more than a guy like Tavon Austin?

I don't know...I've seen Percy Harvin perform at an ELITE level in the NFL without any help at the QB position. I haven't seen Tavon Austin do that yet.

Yes. Tavon Austin isn't near the player that Percy Harvin is.

Percy is basically what Pioli wanted Dexter to be...

Peterson went down and Harvin started rushing for TD's...

the dude is ELECTRIC. An absolute playmaker. That's what I want out of the early rounds in the draft...if we can flip 34 for Percy that's a total win any way you look at it.

First 3 rounds should be ****ing playmakers ONLY...you can find your tackles and guards elsewhere...same with DL...

teams win because of A.J. Green and Tom Brady, not because of David DeCastro, Glenn Dorsey, and Chilo Rachal.

He had a 1,000 yard season as a sophomore in the SEC.

he wants 10 millon a year and has been in face to face altercations with 2 coaches on 3 different occasions.. I like the kids skillset but i'm not sure he's worth it. He is a me-first player and is a cry baby at that asking for a trade this offseason.
Don't think he's worth 10mil or our 2nd rounder. Would rather keep bowe and draft/sign someone else.

If I'm Belichick, I'm calling the Vikings as soon as I can.

LMAO Two in a row.

Yes.
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I'll be pissed if the Patriots get him...

That said they should try to make a trade i think a 3rd and smething else

I think he has been such a shithead because he wasnt getting paid what he thought he deserved. Baldwin and a 3rd?? They signed Jerome Simpson last year because they wanted a deep threat and he blew. I feel like Baldwin has talent but wouldn't fit in a WC, so give him to a team that would need a young cheap deep threat, and use the money that we're about to get from restructuring/cutting Cassel and TJax on a young explosive playmaker that is ideal for a first overall pick QB transitioning into the NFL with a WC offense.

lets just trade them Cassel, TJax, McCluster and Baldwin. That oughtta do it! If they need a little something extra I guess we can throw in Stanzi too.

Not sure if it was posted, but saw on twitter they were to ask for a 2 and a 4.

He choke slammed a coach in college.
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Coach shouldn't have dressed like a slut. He was asking for it.

Qft
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I predict that this is going to end up like Santonio Holmes. Santonio went for a 5th and everyone was all like "omg wtf bbq damnit pioli carl!" and then he really didn't do anything besides alienate all of his teammates and make everyone hate him so uh...

yeah

can't wait for Percy to go for a 4th and then see the board erupt with anger.

for the record, I think Percy now >>>>>> Santonio then, though.

Should've paid him...

Well, Holmes situation was a little different. Harvin is 24 and is a potential MVP type player.


His mental problems and off the field issues scare me though.

different?

Holmes was a Super Bowl MVP/former 1st round pick who was traded when he was 25 years old...

not sure how that constitutes as...different. Really, in any way.

Different type players, didn't communicate that very well.


But yeah, this could be a similar situation in the end.

Holmes was never a running/No.1WR/KR/MVP threat

he was a 1st round WR that was very productive and won a Super Bowl MVP

I'm not saying he's as good or as valuable as Harvin...but people on this very board were SHOCKED and APPALLED he went for a 5th and we wouldn't offer anything better.

While I could see someone pulling the trigger and trading a 2nd, I think he'll go for a 3rd due to his contract/issues.

Holmes was too high strung for Pioli. I was shocked that he only went for a 5th as well.

I'd be hard pressed not to give up a third for him, dude is such a dynamic playmaker.

I like the idea of Harvin on this team. Not enough for a 2nd, but I'd seriously think about offering our third rounder, especially if we get a compensatory pick at the end of the third.

But I'd also like the idea of having the chance to talk to him first so we can see what his mindset is before pulling that off.

Austin doesn't come with the baggage and already has three years of chemistry with Geno.

I bet he has an impressive combine.

as long as we take Bailey in the 3rd, too

Austin will also cost nearly nothing when Harvin will want PAID.

That obey can be spent elsewhere.

Bowe
Breaston
Austin
Wylie
Baldwin
McCluster

That's a good receiving corps for Geno.

I think we should cut Breaston. Dude is done IMHO.

Tavon Austin is 5'9. Percy Harvin is 5'11. Harvin has proven he can play in the NFL and at a high level. Pay him the money.

But bro, his poetry is amazing.

lets just pump McCluster full of deer antler spray and hope for the best

20 million on 2 receivers?

20 million on 2 CBs?

Tom Cruise is 5'7 or something and he was pretty good in Top Gun. What's your beef with short people?

I wonder what Jennings will be looking for...

probably 5 for 50

seems like the standard for the borderline WR1s

Honestly, I'd rather keep Bowe than pick up Harvin. The 2 of them together would be sick. But Harvin has a less than great reputation, but that doesn't mean that I wouldn't take a chance, because he's one hell of a talent.

Them just adding an accurate quarterback will make the receivers on this team much better.

I'd like to see where we are, in terms of cap space, if we re-sign Albert and Bowe to reasonable contracts.

how does add an accurate QB make the receivers better?

maybe production wise, but as it stands now we have only ONE established NFL WR under contract, and the other we will find out in less than a month if the new FO plans to keep him around

an accurate QB still wont teach Baldwin how to break the press and run a crisp route or McCluster how to run faster/not fumble/not suck. That's on them, and if they cant establish themselves with a new QB, they need to go.

Not signing Carr to a 10 mil a year contract wasn't a mistake. Not finding a capable #2 CB was.

3rd + Matt Cassel would be just fine. :D