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silver5liter 02-22-2013 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9426678)
ok so how do you measure your hands? from what to what?

I've looked and its from base of palm, where it meets the wrist and tip of middle finger. that's why it says hand length

The Bad Guy 02-22-2013 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9426084)
Barkley is the single most undervalued QB in this draft. Such nonsense being thrown around about him being worth only a second-round grade.

Starts, system experience, intangibles, physical skill set...it's all there. Not going to be surprised at all if he's the Chiefs QB this fall.

Me neither.

It's just amazing to me that this time last year, he was being talked about as a top 10 pick in a draft that was much more lush than this one.

His arm strength was plenty fine then and that didn't regress this year.

I like him a great deal and would love for him to be the QB here.

silver5liter 02-22-2013 08:12 PM

Barkleys problem now, dude has t rex arms lol

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:12 PM

looks like if I'm measuring right...my hands are about 8.5"

I'm 6'3" and have always been told my hands are pretty big...how do some of you guys have 10" hands? That doesn't even make sense.

Michael Jordan had 9.75" hands and you guys expect me to believe some of you have 10.5" hands?

What?

silver5liter 02-22-2013 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9426688)
looks like if I'm measuring right...my hands are about 8.5"

I'm 6'3" and have always been told my hands are pretty big...how do some of you guys have 10" hands? That doesn't even make sense.

Michael Jordan had 9.75" hands and you guys expect me to believe some of you have 10.5" hands?

What?

They are measuring pinky to thumb, which I don't believe is the correct way.

-King- 02-22-2013 08:14 PM

I just measured:

8.5" from palm to tip of middle finger
9" from thumb to pinky

I'm 5'10

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:15 PM

how do you even measure pinky to thumb?

AustinChief 02-22-2013 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9426664)
Still think you're wrong. Almost positive its base of hand to tip of middle

Except I'm pretty damn sure I'm not. That would be really stupid measurement for anyone to use.

suds79 02-22-2013 08:16 PM

Who cares what is techinically correct.

We just care about how they're doing it at the combine. It's thumb to pinkie.

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:17 PM

so do you spread your hands all the way out and then measure from the end of your thump to the tip of your pinkie?

silver5liter 02-22-2013 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9426694)
Except I'm pretty damn sure I'm not. That would be really stupid measurement for anyone to use.

Its called hand length, not hand span. I'm trying to get someone to confirm on Twitter. Pretty sure I'm right. if I'm wrong a ton of players in the nfl have tiny hands

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:17 PM

and I feel weird typing the word 'pinkie'...there has to be a better name for that finger...

AustinChief 02-22-2013 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9426693)
how do you even measure pinky to thumb?

Did you not see the picture? place hand flat on ruler... read ruler. Not rocket surgery.

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9426703)
Did you not see the picture? place hand flat on ruler... read ruler. Not rocket surgery.

lol

I never saw that post I'm very sorry sir. I'll go look for it (a link would have helped in the future.)

-King- 02-22-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9426694)
Except I'm pretty damn sure I'm not. That would be really stupid measurement for anyone to use.

Why? I'm not getting why you think the pinky to thumb measurement is better for a QB than the palm to middle finger. A QB is NEVER going to have his hand stretched like that while holding the ball. Having a large hand (pinky to thumb-wise) won't help you grip the ball any better. But having a large hand (palm to MF) will.

AustinChief 02-22-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9426700)
Its called hand length, not hand span. I'm trying to get someone to confirm on Twitter. Pretty sure I'm right. if I'm wrong a ton of players in the nfl have tiny hands

Hand length is an almost completely useless measure. The combine calls it HAND SIZE, which could be either but most people seem to think it is hand span. I have yet to find an authoritative source for it though.

BossChief 02-22-2013 08:20 PM

http://www.topendsports.com/testing/tests/hand-span.htm

purpose: The size of the hand is advantageous for some sports which involve catching, gripping or tackling.
equipment required: flat surface and ruler or tape measure
procedure: The hand is placed palm down on a flat surface. The fingers are outstretched as far as possible. Measure the linear distance between the outside of the thumb to the outside of the little finger.

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:20 PM

nice

that jumps me up to 9.4

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:21 PM

BossChief has bigger hands than E.J. Manual.

Riiight. That's a tough one for me to believe.

silver5liter 02-22-2013 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9426710)
http://www.topendsports.com/testing/tests/hand-span.htm

purpose: The size of the hand is advantageous for some sports which involve catching, gripping or tackling.
equipment required: flat surface and ruler or tape measure
procedure: The hand is placed palm down on a flat surface. The fingers are outstretched as far as possible. Measure the linear distance between the outside of the thumb to the outside of the little finger.

I don't trust top end sports. every where you look has different opinions

AustinChief 02-22-2013 08:23 PM

And here we have the NYTIMES on my side as well...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/02/sp...s-success.html

Quote:

From thumb to pinkie, Gronkowski’s hands measure 10 ¾ inches — nearly as long as a football.

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9426720)
I don't trust top end sports. every where you look has different opinions

dude 10.5" hands from palm to middle finger is insane

-King- 02-22-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9426709)
Hand length is an almost completely useless measure. The combine calls it HAND SIZE, which could be either but most people seem to think it is hand span. I have yet to find an authoritative source for it though.

Why would hand span be any more useful though? QBs don't grip the ball with their fingers outstretched. Hand length matters because the longer the hand the more you can get it around the ball and be able to grip it better.

AustinChief 02-22-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9426720)
I don't trust top end sports. every where you look has different opinions

Not really, I have looked and it's about 20 to 1 ratio of people claiming it is span over length. And the NY TIMES is usually a pretty reliable source...

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9426724)
Why would hand span be any more useful though? QBs don't grip the ball with their fingers outstretched. Hand length matters because the longer the hand the more you can get it around the ball and be able to grip it better.

have you ever thrown a football before? Your hand is pretty stretched out.

ZootedGranny 02-22-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9426707)
A QB is NEVER going to have his hand stretched like that while holding the ball.

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9426724)
QBs don't grip the ball with their fingers outstretched.

https://i.minus.com/ibureenzRm9NmF.gif

The measurement is absolutely thumb to pinky.

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9426726)
Not really, I have looked and it's about 20 to 1 ratio of people claiming it is span over length. And the NY TIMES is usually a pretty reliable source...

nah my college lit teacher banned NY TIMES as a source when I was in school

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:27 PM

http://www.active.com/Assets/Football/GripAFootball.jpg

-King- 02-22-2013 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9426732)
have you ever thrown a football before? Your hand is pretty stretched out.

You call this stretched out?

http://www.wbur.org/files/2010/11/1126_tom-brady.jpg

silver5liter 02-22-2013 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9426726)
Not really, I have looked and it's about 20 to 1 ratio of people claiming it is span over length. And the NY TIMES is usually a pretty reliable source...

Nytimes is where I always get my sports information.

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:29 PM

I don't know you didn't exactly post his thumb...

I mean, you don't grip a football with your hand stretched to the max but the proper way to grip a football to throw it has your hand naturally stretched out.

-King- 02-22-2013 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9426740)

That's not stretched out.

-King- 02-22-2013 08:32 PM

I mean seriously, I'm supposed to believe that my hand is almost the same size as the average QB in the draft?

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9426751)
That's not stretched out.

that is pretty stretched out bud

lets use an obudsman

Hamas!

Ruling?

ZootedGranny 02-22-2013 08:32 PM

If you look up past combine profiles on NFL.com, they all mention hand span.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...aclin?id=80429
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...nicks?id=80672
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...fford?id=79860
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...llace?id=81877

So on and so forth.

AustinChief 02-22-2013 08:33 PM

Guys, hand SPAN is far more useful a measure, arguing otherwise is ridiculous. (I can't see how anyone who has thrown a football can't see that) That doesn't mean that it is what the NFL uses... BUT the vast vast majority of sources claim that it is.

BossChief 02-22-2013 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9426715)
BossChief has bigger hands than E.J. Manual.

Riiight. That's a tough one for me to believe.

.

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9426760)
I mean seriously, I'm supposed to believe that my hand is almost the same size as the average QB in the draft?

Dude I'm 6'3" and have pretty big hands...I could take a picture and post them if you want. I'm not an NFL QB and although I can throw a baseball pretty far I can't throw a football much further than 40-45 yards (probably because I want to throw it like a baseball).

On my THREE TIME DEFENDING CHAMPION FLAG FOOTBALL TEAM our QB is 5'8" 235 lbs and he has a ****ing HOWITZER cannon...his hands are approximately the same size as mine. The dude can literally throw it 60 yards on a rope...he's amazing. Literally the best QB in our league and it's not close.

THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS...these QB's are human beings and they aren't FREAKS like LeBron James or NBA players who are ABNORMALLY tall.

That combine picture of Tom Brady with his shirt off looks pretty much how I look with a ****ing shirt off...I just can't throw a football 65 yards on a rope with precision accuracy.

Just because they are great QB's doesn't mean they have to have superhuman hands...they are still human beings

BossChief 02-22-2013 08:36 PM

And I know, I need to set my watch ack an hour...it's a citizen perpetual calendar Eco drive and I don't like having to do it...I just remember that it's an hour ahead.

silver5liter 02-22-2013 08:36 PM

This is hard to believe to me but what ever lol

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9426767)
.

picture doesn't do you justice but my hands are way prettier...I should be a hand model I think

at least that's what I tell girls at bars

it works

I have pretty hands what can I say.

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:39 PM

that being said your hands are pretty solid for a man

I'll give the prettiness a 7.5 out of 10

they don't look like abnormally large hands like the measurement suggests but I just can't tell...I don't have anything to compare it to.

-King- 02-22-2013 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9426776)

THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS...these QB's are human beings and they aren't FREAKS like LeBron James or NBA players who are ABNORMALLY tall.

That combine picture of Tom Brady with his shirt off looks pretty much how I look with a ****ing shirt off...I just can't throw a football 65 yards on a rope with precision accuracy.

Just because they are great QB's doesn't mean they have to have superhuman hands...they are still human beings

I'm not saying having superhuman hands. But it's extremely weird that guys averaging 6'2 to 6'7 have roughly the same size as me (5'10) if we're talking about hand span.

Just Passin' By 02-22-2013 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9426764)
Guys, hand SPAN is far more useful a measure, arguing otherwise is ridiculous. (I can't see how anyone who has thrown a football can't see that) That doesn't mean that it is what the NFL uses... BUT the vast vast majority of sources claim that it is.

This makes sense to me. I'm 5'9" and have fairly short fingers, with my middle finger being less than 3.5 inches long, but I can palm a basketball because I've got a hand span of 9.75 inches.

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:42 PM

we use the same ball every week at flag football and my buddy is the only one who throws it and it's hilarious...he grips the **** out of the ball because there are too imprinted thumb prints on each end...

dude has just a flat out cannon...he was one of those guys that really didn't develop 100% physically until he was about 19...throws a baseball 85 MPH and he just lights up the flag football field

we haven't lost a game in 4 straight sessions...and we're the only team that doesn't call plays or wear those gay ass wrist bands like a bunch of homos...

we just ****ing school yard it and pwn everyone...the black teams don't like losing to 27 year old white kids

AustinChief 02-22-2013 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9426784)
picture doesn't do you justice but my hands are way prettier...I should be a hand model I think

at least that's what I tell girls at bars

it works

I have pretty hands what can I say.

My hands are weird, they are pretty much the only feature on my entire body that actually looks the proper age. It's like I have portrait hanging in my attic with perfect young hands but the rest is gruesome and haggard.

BossChief 02-22-2013 08:44 PM

Is Hootie, in some Rex Ryan type way, attracted to my hands?

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:45 PM

I try and convince 19 year old girls at the bars that I'm a hand model and I model women's jewelry (I have no hair on my hands and they really are quite feminine) and when they give me a hard time I berate them and ask them "you really wouldn't buy a ring off of these hands?!" AT THE VERY WORST IT'S A GOOD ICE BREAKER...AT THE VERY BEST THEY THINK I'M GAY.

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9426815)
Is Hootie, in some Rex Ryan type way, attracted to my hands?

I like a man that has girly hands...no hair, pretty hands...guys with great circulation you know? I can appreciate a good, hairless hand just like the next guy.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-22-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9426762)
that is pretty stretched out bud

lets use an obudsman

Hamas!

Ruling?

It's kinda/pretty stretched out but not totally...???

htismaqe 02-22-2013 08:47 PM

Thanks to this thread, I now have an idea of exactly HOW SMALL Tyler Wilson's hands are.

I have, at least what I think, are VERY SMALL hands. I just measured mine and pinky to thumb, I'm right at 8" pretty much.

His hands aren't much bigger than mine.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-22-2013 08:47 PM

I have pretty feminine hands save for the summer months, when I get golf callouses. It's a byproduct of avoiding manual labor for most of my life.

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:48 PM

well I'm just saying your hand is pretty stretched out naturally when gripping a football to throw it meaning the thumb to pinky measurement absolutely makes sense for QB's

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9426827)
I have pretty feminine hands save for the summer months, when I get golf callouses. It's a byproduct of avoiding manual labor for most of my life.

I think that is what it has to be for me as well...someone handed me a wrench one time and I was like "what the **** do you want me to do with this?"

1-800-callamexican

-King- 02-22-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9426826)
Thanks to this thread, I now have an idea of exactly HOW SMALL Tyler Wilson's hands are.

I have, at least what I think, are VERY SMALL hands. I just measured mine and pinky to thumb, I'm right at 8" pretty much.

His hands aren't much bigger than mine.

How tall are you?

BossChief 02-22-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9426827)
I have pretty feminine hands save for the summer months, when I get golf callouses. It's a byproduct of avoiding manual labor for most of my life.

I work with mine every day. The low res pic doesn't show it, but there are at least 20 scars on each hand.

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9426849)
I work with mine every day. The low res pic doesn't show it, but there are at least 20 scars on each hand.

disgusting

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-22-2013 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9426849)
I work with mine every day. The low res pic doesn't show it, but there are at least 20 scars on each hand.

I do too...grading papers. Wrist cramps hurt like a mother****er :evil:

What do you do?

AustinChief 02-22-2013 08:56 PM

And I'm pretty sure we have a FINAL answer on this...

From Hakeem Nick's combine profile on NFL.com

Quote:

Had an arm span of 33 1/2 inches and a hand span of 10 1/2 inches at the combine.
So, it appears hand SPAN is the answer not stupid ass hand length. :D

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:56 PM

he installs cable as a day job...but he's competent enough to be an NFL GM if he were just given the chance.

Hootie 02-22-2013 08:56 PM

BossChief must have MONKEY hands if his hands are almost as big as Hakeem freaking Nicks. Those things are monsters.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-22-2013 08:59 PM

I can't imagine some of the shitty places you have to crawl.

Hootie 02-22-2013 09:02 PM

we had to ****ing fire some ****ing stupid **** and now I'm responsible for filling in until we hire a replacement next week so instead of enjoying a fine daquiri I'm stuck at god damn cock sucking work talking about gorgeous man hands with you ****ing reeruns.

-King- 02-22-2013 09:05 PM

So pretty much the average CPer has the same size hands of the average NFL QB?

BossChief 02-22-2013 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9426854)
I do too...grading papers. Wrist cramps hurt like a mother****er :evil:

What do you do?

I work for a directv/dish/HSI retailer and sell, consult and install all sorts of stuff from Directv in larger buildings and businesses as well as residential accounts.

I went from managing a retail store, to working for a cable company as an installer, to working for directv as an installer, to owning and managing a contract company for directv ...to where I am now.

I also own 1/3 of a delivery service that we just started a couple months ago that is taking off...

Hootie 02-22-2013 09:07 PM

King you have a tiny dick we get it...calm down

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-22-2013 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9426905)
I work for a directv/dish/HSI retailer and sell, consult and install all sorts of stuff.

I remember when I worked in electronics one of the guys that did home installs got fired because he ****ed a customer then wrecked the install car after hours.

Any stories like that?

Hootie 02-22-2013 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9426913)
I remember when I worked in electronics one of the guys that did home installs got fired because he ****ed a customer then wrecked the install car after hours.

Any stories like that?

that's badass

how does one ever even find himself in that situation?

-King- 02-22-2013 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9426906)
King you have a tiny dick we get it...calm down

It gets the job done.

tk13 02-22-2013 09:26 PM

I never imagined when I opened this thread it'd be a hand measuring contest.

AustinChief 02-22-2013 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9426965)
I never imagined when I opened this thread it'd be a hand measuring contest.

Friday night on the planet! yee haw!

BossChief 02-22-2013 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9426913)
I remember when I worked in electronics one of the guys that did home installs got fired because he ****ed a customer then wrecked the install car after hours.

Any stories like that?

I know a guy that got fired for ****ing a housewife and almost getting caught...some minor theft stories, but I'm mostly a straight shooter, so I don't get told a lot of those things...I'm not a snitch, but I try to do my job by the book and some probably think I would say something.
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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9426918)
that's badass

how does one ever even find himself in that situation?

You'd be surprised what happens sometimes.

I've gotten a few blowjob "tips" from lonely housewives and other gals over the last few years.

There have been a whole lot of times when I knew I could probably make a suggestion and the gal would jump on it, but I value my career. Probably close to a hundred if I really want to think about it.

Lots of desperate housewives that seem to get turned on by having it be just them and me in their bedroom...I'm just always scared of getting caught or that it was some kind of test.

That's one thing that can get you blacklisted.

silver5liter 02-22-2013 09:39 PM

Back on topic. Heres the first measurable negative on Barkley

arm length: 30 5/8"

htismaqe 02-22-2013 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9426837)
How tall are you?

5'9"

SPchief 02-22-2013 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9426965)
I never imagined when I opened this thread it'd be a hand measuring contest.

It's probably better we're getting pictures of a hand measuring contest instead of a dick measuring contest

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-22-2013 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9426918)
that's badass

how does one ever even find himself in that situation?

I think he set up a rendezvous for later, then drove there in the company car, ****ed her, got drunk, then ran the car off in a ditch.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-22-2013 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9426993)
I know a guy that got fired for ****ing a housewife and almost getting caught...some minor theft stories, but I'm mostly a straight shooter, so I don't get told a lot of those things...I'm not a snitch, but I try to do my job by the book and some probably think I would say something.


You'd be surprised what happens sometimes.

I've gotten a few blowjob "tips" from lonely housewives and other gals over the last few years.

There have been a whole lot of times when I knew I could probably make a suggestion and the gal would jump on it, but I value my career. Probably close to a hundred if I really want to think about it.

Lots of desperate housewives that seem to get turned on by having it be just them and me in their bedroom...I'm just always scared of getting caught or that it was some kind of test.

That's one thing that can get you blacklisted.

What the ****? I picked the wrong career.

AustinChief 02-22-2013 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9427057)
What the ****? I picked the wrong career.

No joke! That is what I was thinking when I read that!

Iowanian 02-22-2013 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9426897)
So pretty much the average CPer has the same size hands of the average NFL QB?


Just measured. My hand span is 9 5/8.

less than ideal height is bound to knock me out of the 3rd round, and I'm a little old for a rookie.

BossChief 02-22-2013 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9427057)
What the ****? I picked the wrong career.

For the right person, it can be somewhat financially rewarding, too. I made 72k at DTV my last year there...that's a damn good wage for Iowa...and as I've shared, I've made a few significant connections, too. On top of that, I got insurance for close to nothing, free tv and Sunday ticket, drove a company van and get a paid cell phone.

The negatives are there, too...we work in damn near anything...I have to occasionally go where nobody wants to (though if one has the right tools and intellect, it's often possible to avoid those situations) working 6 day work weeks, you have to take unwarranted abuse at times and its a profession that tend to burn people out.

I work for this retailer because I can set my own schedule and basically work only when I want to and how much I want to. If I want a week off, I take it...if I only want to work till 230 everyday, I can. If I want to work till 7 or 8 every day and make 3k in a week, I can.

I know some Vietnamese guys that make well over 100k a year just as installers.


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