ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   Chiefs Raise your hand if you're smarter than John Dorsey and Andy Reid (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=270487)

New World Order 04-27-2013 12:20 AM

I stand united with SNR

Rausch 04-27-2013 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 9636083)
I stand united with SNR

That's cute...

New World Order 04-27-2013 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9636002)
Yeah let's judge them because they don't pick who you want and haven't even played a game yet.

Let's get to the root of your anger: they didn't draft Geno and you are mad at them.



We all know what's going to happpen. This team is worse than the 2010 squad. We have Stanford Routt jr. opposite of Flowers, no WR other than Bowe and a pass heavy offense led by a quarterback who has never even had a 3200 yard season.

Setsuna 04-27-2013 12:22 AM

I'm impressed SNR knew all along. Well done sir.
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u...ower-fist1.jpg

Rausch 04-27-2013 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 9636085)
We all know what's going to happpen. This team is worse than the 2010 squad. We have Stanford Routt jr. opposite of Flowers, no WR other than Bowe and a pass heavy offense led by a quarterback who has never even had a 3200 yard season.

I hate knowing this team will be much better than the 10 squad and still finish the same...

Rausch 04-27-2013 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 9636087)
I'm impressed SNR knew all along. Well done sir.
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u...ower-fist1.jpg

Dicks.

Lunch.

You do the math...

Fairplay 04-27-2013 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 9636083)
I stand united with SNR



I wondered who else was in that gang

New World Order 04-27-2013 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9636089)
I hate knowing this team will be much better than the 10 squad and still finish the same...



How are they better than the 10 squad? Alex Smith will not have a 27/7 year like Cassel did. Hell, he has never even had a 20 td year.

New World Order 04-27-2013 12:27 AM

How many games will Alex Smith play before he gets hurt? Serious question.

Fairplay 04-27-2013 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 9636098)
How many games will Alex Smith plays before he gets hurt? Serious question.


nine games, am I right?

New World Order 04-27-2013 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 9636103)
nine games, am I right?


No

Rausch 04-27-2013 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 9636095)
How are they better than the 10 squad? Alex Smith will not have a 27/7 year like Cassel did. Hell, he has never even had a 20 td year.

He's got a ****ing boss line and he'll have every route in 20 yards.

Bowe will take a ****ing beating. Count on that.

This will run Bowe and Charles into the dirt.

...

By the time this staff realizes what they can't do the people that have "can do" will be furious...

New World Order 04-27-2013 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9636108)
He's got a ****ing boss line and he'll have every route in 20 yards.

Bowe will take a ****ing beating. Count on that.

This will run Bowe and Charles into the dirt.

...

By the time this staff realizes what they can't do the people that have "can do" will be furious...


We have a qb who wont be as good as Cassel was in 10, we don't have a good corner opposite of Flowers like we had with Carr and we have no WR to take pressure off Bowe.

Maybe this should be a thread?

Setsuna 04-27-2013 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9636091)
Dicks.

Lunch.

You do the math...

LMAO

Rausch 04-27-2013 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 9636113)
We have a qb who wont be as good as Cassel was in 10

No, he'll be much better. His flaws aside he'll be....well, pretty much DeBerg without the toughness.


Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 9636113)
we don't have a good corner opposite of Flowers like we had with Carr

That's a 50/50 deal.

Smith has some huge upside but he needs serious coaching. In Miami he looked a lot like Bartee (all the talent but no ball awareness or ability to make the play.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 9636113)
and we have no WR to take pressure off Bowe.

You got me there.

Adding another slot WR and drafting nothing does jack $3it for our passing game.

We have 43 slot WR's and no legit no 2...

xztop123 04-27-2013 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 9635986)
There is going to be a run on QBs in the 4th. Everyone knows that.

That being said, when we pick tomorrow, in the 4th or 5th, there will be a legit prospect available with minimal risk and decent upside.

Its not like we "missed out" on all of the QB's. For Christ's sake, its the 4th round and only 3 have gone, and certainly not the three we thought, and definitely not in the order we thought.

I'd be a lot more worried if other teams with the obvious need for a QB were snagging them early and we were left in the cold. But it seems the entire league's worth of talent evaluators felt similarly about the quality of prospects this year.

This certainly explains the shuffling of young vets over the last two months. The one nice thing is that we were the first to pull the trigger and identify this issue, and of the crop of guys who fit that description (Smith, Palmer, Flynn, Kolb) I think we made out with the best player.

Yeah, the downside is that we payed a hefty price for Smith. I like to think our hand was forced because of the interest in acquiring him, but we will never know.


interesting spin on it

splatbass 04-27-2013 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 9635986)
There is going to be a run on QBs in the 4th. Everyone knows that.

That being said, when we pick tomorrow, in the 4th or 5th, there will be a legit prospect available with minimal risk and decent upside.

Its not like we "missed out" on all of the QB's. For Christ's sake, its the 4th round and only 3 have gone, and certainly not the three we thought, and definitely not in the order we thought.

I'd be a lot more worried if other teams with the obvious need for a QB were snagging them early and we were left in the cold. But it seems the entire league's worth of talent evaluators felt similarly about the quality of prospects this year.

This certainly explains the shuffling of young vets over the last two months. The one nice thing is that we were the first to pull the trigger and identify this issue, and of the crop of guys who fit that description (Smith, Palmer, Flynn, Kolb) I think we made out with the best player.

Yeah, the downside is that we payed a hefty price for Smith. I like to think our hand was forced because of the interest in acquiring him, but we will never know.

Well said. I agree.

beach tribe 04-27-2013 08:44 AM

I was just about to post about how,this draft has proven that there were probably multiple suitors for Smith.

spanky 52 04-27-2013 08:51 AM

Believe I read somewhere on CP a while back that Buffalo had offered a third for Smith, hence we offered our second.

Bugeater 04-27-2013 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanky 52 (Post 9636517)
Believe I read somewhere on CP a while back that Buffalo had offered a third for Smith, hence we offered our second.

Then we should've just offered our 3rd which would've been a higher pick. If that's true then we all are smarter than Dorsey/Reid.

L.A. Chieffan 04-27-2013 09:00 AM

guys with a combined nfl experience of like seventy years are no match for the super powers of cp posters

RealSNR 04-27-2013 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9636550)
guys with a combined nfl experience of like seventy years are no match for the super powers of cp posters

Guys with combined NFL experience of 70 years shouldn't have pissed away a 2nd rounder in this particular draft class on Alex Smith

L.A. Chieffan 04-27-2013 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9636563)
Guys with combined NFL experience of 70 years shouldn't have pissed away a 2nd rounder in this particular draft class on Alex Smith

that's just life your opinion man. ten bucks says Alex Smith has a better season than any qb from this class.

Hootie 04-27-2013 09:13 AM

you guys are so smart you spent 5 months and 100,000 posts on Geno Smith going #1 and he didn't even go in the 1st round

so much smarter than Dorsey and Andy Reid

RealSNR 04-27-2013 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9636579)
that's just life your opinion man. ten bucks says Alex Smith has a better season than any qb from this class.

Season? Definitely. Most of them won't be starting a single game.

Career? Doubtful. One of these guys is going to be successful.

Hootie 04-27-2013 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9636588)
Season? Definitely. Most of them won't be starting a single game.

Career? Doubtful. One of these guys is going to be successful.

EJ and Geno will certainly get their shot.

L.A. Chieffan 04-27-2013 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9636588)
Season? Definitely. Most of them won't be starting a single game.

Career? Doubtful. One of these guys is going to be successful.

and Reid and Dorsey could give two shits what one of these guys it's gonna be like in five years or whatever. all they care about right now is the next two or three seasons. tops. this ain't their first rodeo

Red Dawg 04-27-2013 09:18 AM

None of you are smarter that either of them. Thats why you are bitching on a message board and they are millionaires running and NFL franchise. All of you need to STFU AND STFD!

Fat Elvis 04-27-2013 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9636583)
you guys are so smart you spent 5 months and 100,000 posts on Geno Smith going #1 and he didn't even go in the 1st round

so much smarter than Dorsey and Andy Reid

Geniouses, I tell you, geniouses.

Lex Luthor 04-27-2013 09:23 AM

I'm starting to think Andy Reid could win back-to-back Super Bowls and half of Chiefsplanet would still call him an idiot if he doesn't draft a quarterback RIGHT ****ING NOW!

whoman69 04-27-2013 09:24 AM

Even Arnold Horshack is smarter

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8...punqo1_400.jpg

Imon Yourside 04-27-2013 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 9636613)
I'm starting to think Andy Reid could win back-to-back Super Bowls and half of Chiefsplanet would still call him an idiot if he doesn't draft a quarterback RIGHT ****ING NOW!

Wrong, gimme 2 superbowls and Alex smiff will be legend round' these parts.

BigMeatballDave 04-27-2013 09:25 AM

Raise your hand if you have sand in your vagina.

Carlota69 04-27-2013 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9636618)
Raise your hand if you have sand in your vagina.

:LOL::LOL::LOL:

Hootie 04-27-2013 09:27 AM

we got the best QB prospect in this draft at #34

not bad

Imon Yourside 04-27-2013 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9636623)
we got the best QB prospect in this draft at #34

not bad

He compares well with Cassel, I guess I did my best but my best wasn't good enough is appropriate?

Lightrise 04-27-2013 09:29 AM

I'll play the game from similar perspective - personnel. I view these things like Deion Sanders and Kurt Warner do - looking for swagger - Jared Allen types, playmakers (Shannon Sharpe), winners (Warner sees something in EJ Manuel and a few months ago I read where Andy Reid focused on him too), fearless guys like Dale Carter. This is one reason I am relieved with the Fisher pick. That guy will be successful. When it comes to TE I admit to being totally spoiled from the Gonzalez experience and its more important these guys get open and catch the ball than block. I fix that weakness with HOF guards if possible. If there's one thing I've learned to hate as a Chiefs fan it is pressure coming up the middle. If you can't prevent that then you have to have a quick release QB and run the west coast offense.

So - given the veteran challenge at QB in our division Alex Smith was the right choice to try and win while we still have to cope with Manning and Rivers. Our division will reset soon...2 more years I figure.

It's too early to tell with Reid and Dorsey...but the Chiefs have to get a lot nastier. That is one reason I hated to lose Haley...the team needed his passion. It's just a shame ***** was so wrong for a coach like that. They fired the wrong guy who never got the coaches and QB he deserved the latitude to find. But now that the damage has been done...Reid and Dorsey are a logical fit to clean this up.

Hootie 04-27-2013 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9636633)
He compares well with Cassel, I guess I did my best but my best wasn't good enough is appropriate?

Alex Smith is to Matt Cassel as Trent Green is to Rick Mirer.

whoman69 04-27-2013 09:33 AM

The number one pick is supposed to be an impact player. It seems like we're just making a lateral move.

Hootie 04-27-2013 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 9636645)
The number one pick is supposed to be an impact player. It seems like we're just making a lateral move.

was Willie Roaf an impact player?

Look, I didn't want a tackle 1st overall. No way.

but after I watched the first round...

I realized that was honestly the only way to go. Or Dion Jordan. Whatever.

There was no elite QB and no elite WR. So oh well.

Everyone but ChiefsPlanet agrees the Chiefs made the right pick. These are the same experts that promised everyone Geno wasn't elite. Seems like they are smarter than SNR and Milkman. They get paid, there is a reason for it.

DTLB58 04-27-2013 09:37 AM

Well, it sure seems a lot of us were smarter than Pioli/Haley/Romeo so sure, Why not?

That's NOT sarcasm btw. :thumb:

It's really obvious that Reid is building this offense a LOT different than the rest of the NFL. Mainly because of the QB.

Bugeater 04-27-2013 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 9636602)
None of you are smarter that either of them. Thats why you are bitching on a message board and they are millionaires running and NFL franchise. All of you need to STFU AND STFD!

I am 100% sure the entire board is smarter than you.

ChiefRocka 04-27-2013 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 9636645)
The number one pick is supposed to be an impact player. It seems like we're just making a lateral move.

Our #1 will eliminate impacts on the QB and JC.
Great great pick. They didn't take the safe OT.

milkman 04-27-2013 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9636643)
Alex Smith is to Matt Cassel as Trent Green is to Rick Mirer.

In this comparison, David Carr is a better example as a comparison to Trent Green.

Mother****erJones 04-27-2013 09:45 AM

Ladies and Gentlemen, our contestants today are John Dorsey and Andy Reid.

Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader? LET'S PLAY!

Hootie 04-27-2013 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9636667)
In this comparison, David Carr is a better example as a comparison to Trent Green.

I was just thinking on the go.

I understand the not being excited for Alex Smith or for Eric Fisher sentiment...100%. Neither of them excited me, either.

But I'm not unrealistic, and I'm certainly not going to say Alex Smith compares to Matt Cassel.

That's ludicrous.

Imon Yourside 04-27-2013 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9636643)
Alex Smith is to Matt Cassel as Trent Green is to Rick Mirer.

The career stats speak differently, Cassel actually has better stats. I REALLY hope that I'm wrong.

SAUTO 04-27-2013 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9636651)
was Willie Roaf an impact player?

Look, I didn't want a tackle 1st overall. No way.

but after I watched the first round...

I realized that was honestly the only way to go. Or Dion Jordan. Whatever.

There was no elite QB and no elite WR. So oh well.

Everyone but ChiefsPlanet agrees the Chiefs made the right pick. These are the same experts that promised everyone Geno wasn't elite. Seems like they are smarter than SNR and Milkman. They get paid, there is a reason for it.


Falling in the draft means you can't be an elite player?


I thought you said Russell Wilson was elite?

You can't have it both ways dude. Those same experts said he wasn't elite. Those same gm's passed more than they did on Geno.

You can't have it bug ways Hootie
Posted via Mobile Device

SAUTO 04-27-2013 09:51 AM

Both ways Hootie
Posted via Mobile Device

Hootie 04-27-2013 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9636684)
The career stats speak differently, Cassel actually has better stats. I REALLY hope that I'm wrong.

dumbest argument out there

actually

it's really ****ing stupid

I'd elaborate, but I fear you're too stupid to comprehend.

Imon Yourside 04-27-2013 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9636699)
dumbest argument out there

actually

it's really ****ing stupid

I'd elaborate, but I fear you're too stupid to comprehend.

Elaborate dickhead, let's hear it.

Hootie 04-27-2013 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9636696)
Both ways Hootie
Posted via Mobile Device

and he fell because he isn't 6' tall

and that baffles me

I'm sure Geno can be elite.

Russell Wilson and Tom Brady are EXCEPTIONS to the rule. If Geno comes out of the gate and plays like Russell ****ing Wilson then all of the QB needy teams in this draft are going to look bad. Same with a Tyler Wilson or Matt Barkley.

but Brady Quinn fell, and he blew
Clausen fell...guess what, he blew

and the list goes on and on and on and on

for every Wilson, there are 1000 Clausen's

SAUTO 04-27-2013 09:56 AM

I'm just saying that the story isn't written completely. You are acting as though it is
Posted via Mobile Device

Hootie 04-27-2013 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9636721)
I'm just saying that the story isn't written completely. You are acting as though it is
Posted via Mobile Device

but it is

CP had Geno #1

every team they mocked him to passed on him twice.

Twice.

That's telling.

Can he prove them wrong? Sure. So could anyone though. Jarvis Jones could end up being a 1st ballot hall of famer. Eric Fisher could end up being the best LT to ever play the game.

You can say that about any one.

milkman 04-27-2013 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9636699)
dumbest argument out there

actually

it's really ****ing stupid

I'd elaborate, but I fear you're too stupid to comprehend.

Stats mean jack.

However, the fact is that neither Smith or Cassel are good QBs.

Smith is smarter, and will not lose you games with stupid mistakes.

But in a simplified, one read system, Cassel is actually a better passer.

Imon Yourside 04-27-2013 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9636744)
Stats mean jack.

However, the fact is that neither Smith or Cassel are good QBs.

Smith is smarter, and will not lose you games with stupid mistakes.

But in a simplified, one read system, Cassel is actually a better passer.

The wildcard in all of this is Jim Harbaugh, we shall see what affect he had on Smith.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-27-2013 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9636002)
Yeah let's judge them because they don't pick who you want and haven't even played a game yet.

Let's get to the root of your anger: they didn't draft Geno and you are mad at them.

Wrong. The priciples and actions employed thus far are garbage. There's your root.
Posted via Mobile Device

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-27-2013 10:07 AM

I'm raising both hands right now, just so you know.
Posted via Mobile Device

BigRedChief 04-27-2013 10:09 AM

I'm smarter than everyone.

/biggest braggert on the intrawebs

KCBOSS1 04-27-2013 10:09 AM

I keep waiting for Clark Hunt to approach guys on the Planet to hire them in their decision making process... No? I guess that's because the extent of the experience here is at best is a "woulda, shoulda, coulda" high school career or maybe coaching peewee football (God forbid) or posting genius assessment on a fan board.

Andy Reid - 5 visits to the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP ... Chiefs - since 1969.... None
We have been upgraded in every move made. Just a passionate Football opinion

Imon Yourside 04-27-2013 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9636843)
I'm smarter than everyone.

/biggest braggert on the intrawebs

WRONG! THat title is mine! :D

SAUTO 04-27-2013 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9636742)
but it is

CP had Geno #1

every team they mocked him to passed on him twice.

Twice.

That's telling.

Can he prove them wrong? Sure. So could anyone though. Jarvis Jones could end up being a 1st ballot hall of famer. Eric Fisher could end up being the best LT to ever play the game.

You can say that about any one.

now the story is written? He's not elite?


You are not making any ****ing sense. Read your last three posts. JFC dude.

Geno may end up elite. He may not.

But like Wilson or kapernick, two of your top five qb's, other teams passing multiple times doesn't make him end up not being elite.
Posted via Mobile Device

milkman 04-27-2013 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9636759)
The wildcard in all of this is Jim Harbaugh, we shall see what affect he had on Smith.

Not sure what you mean by widcard.

To me, it comes down to whether Reid adapts to Smith's limitations.

If he expects Smith to run the same offense he ran with McNabb, this is likely going to implode.

If he adjusts, and utilizes a a more run oriented, play action system, them mediocrity is within our grasp.

Imon Yourside 04-27-2013 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9636881)
Not sure what you mean by widcard.

To me, it comes down to whether Reid adapts to Smith's limitations.

If he expects Smith to run the same offense he ran with McNabb, this is likely going to implode.

If he adjusts, and utilizes a a more run oriented, play action system, them mediocrity is within our grasp.

I wouldn't count on it, Reid has always been pass happy. We shall see.

Hootie 04-27-2013 10:32 AM

Matt Cassel is not a better passer than Alex Smith period.

Totally disagreed with that.

hometeam 04-27-2013 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9637028)
Matt Cassel is not a better passer than Alex Smith period.

Totally disagreed with that.

Not better, but not much worse.

BlackHelicopters 04-27-2013 10:57 AM

Looking for Mr. Sneller.

Hootie 04-27-2013 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9637120)
Not better, but not much worse.

posts like this convince me people have never actually watched Alex Smith play football

Hammock Parties 04-27-2013 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9637028)
Matt Cassel is not a better passer than Alex Smith period.

Totally disagreed with that.

He's better at throwing TDs...

Dave Lane 04-27-2013 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9636623)
we got the best QB prospect in this draft at #34

not bad

Stupid beyond belief

lewdog 04-27-2013 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9637271)
posts like this convince me people have never actually watched Alex Smith play football

Go put your entire life savings on the line if you think Alex Smiff will win a playoff game in KC. I ****ing dare you.

Hootie 04-27-2013 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 9637333)
Go put your entire life savings on the line if you think Alex Smiff will win a playoff game in KC. I ****ing dare you.

I've never stated I think that.

Not once.

I've seen him win a playoff game before, though.

Hootie 04-27-2013 11:18 AM

and risking $9 on something like that isn't much of a risk

lewdog 04-27-2013 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9637335)
I've never stated I think that.

Not once.

I've seen him win a playoff game before, though.


So you are saying he is good but won't win a playoff game?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess (Post 9637337)
and risking $9 on something like that isn't much of a risk

ROFL

crazycoffey 04-27-2013 11:35 AM

GINO SMETH!!11!

Ming the Merciless 04-27-2013 11:39 AM

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

http://i39.tinypic.com/ok0gh.jpg

herp derp i should replace the front office

Ultra Peanut 04-27-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 9636602)
None of you are smarter that either of them. Thats why you are bitching on a message board and they are millionaires running and NFL franchise. All of you need to STFU AND STFD!

And Stephanie Meyer is one of the world's best authors.

RealSNR 04-27-2013 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 9637379)
GINO SMETH!!11!

Don't hurt yourself typing out all those scintillating football posts of yours.

Simplicity 04-27-2013 01:26 PM

No, don't even claim you know shit about shit. You are not a NFL front office worker. You are sitting on an Amateur sports fan forum. There is a reason why they are there and well... You're here. The fact you like Terrance Copper is a red flag that you are a ****ing idiot.

track 04-27-2013 01:28 PM

you sound like Kevin Kietzman...and that's never a good thing.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:36 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.