What a bunch of ****ing spineless apologists there are in this thread. Hey, I hope the Chiefs win the Super Bowl and prove me wrong. However, that doesn't mean I have to be happy that the Chiefs are shoveling the exact same shit down my throat that has mired this franchise in mediocrity for its entire ****ing existence. **** you, you self-righteous sheep.

I really hope Geno goes to Philly.


Geno + Chip is the combo I wanted in KC.

I could root for the Jags too since they hardly have any fans. They could use me. =P


Please god no to the Raiders.

The Faid will probably look like a better franchise than KC 5 years down the line.

Geno will go top 5 but the Chiefs shouldnt take him at 1, because we have Alex Smith(s) & Chase Daniel(s) /trufan(s) :harumph:

FYP

Andy heard they had some good sandwiches on hand.

No media reports on how things are going...?

Elizabeth Merrill‏@MerrillLiz
Update: 29 NFL teams at pro day today in Morgantown. WVa officials say they haven't seen anyone from Az. Surprising w/ QB need.

I posted this in another thread.

Yup.

Your on Drugs.

Cassel is working on a deal with AZ as we speak. LMAO

Best news for the Chiefs if they want to trade out of the 1st.

Zona is pulling a Shanny/Cutler.

I still hold a small thread of hope that Alex Smith was traded for because he was such a good boy backup last year. I think Reid knows how valuable a dependent backup is in the NFL now. That is my one last real hope of taking a shot at a QB.

Did you miss that Chase Daniel was signed for 3 mill per year?

His contract is basically a 1 year deal.

Quit setting yourself up for disappointment.
Alex Smith is going to be the unquestionable starter for the next 3-4 years until Save Our Chiefs starts up again and gets another new regime who will then trade for yet another teams scrub QB. Rinse and repeat.

You may as well hop on board that wagon, or find somebody else to root for.

I don't get the excitement for trading down so someone else can draft Geno. Can anyone name the last time the team in the 1 slot moved down so someone else could take the QB won?

Geoff Mosher ‏@GeoffMosherCSN

RT @byjimcorbett: Chris Weinke's work on Geno Smith's footwork showing up big time much smoother than at combine

For the love of God....just take the kid and fix the QB issue in one ****ing season.

You could say the chargers won in getting LT instead of Vick

The better Geno looked, the wetter a GM will get for him.


This is all positive.

Mort said he only missed 2 out of 70 throws.

Right. So Alex isn'tgoing to be a backup this year. A more realistic scenario is Geno is the 3rd QB this year then the other two backing him up. That's the only 1% hope IMO.

:huh:

What exactly did they win?

but he the most wildly inaccurate thrower we've ever seen/ blackbob, runkc, idiot

:shake: **** this team. Seriously.

I'm dangling from the ledge man....but I'm still holding on.

http://thewordofward.co.uk/wp-conten...-off-cliff.jpg

Andy Reid's scouts must be Kiper and McShay.

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Trading back to get more picks and still picking up a rookie QB is a much better option than picking a LT at 1.

I never said be happy about it. I'm not happy about it right now either. I just don't understand hoping Geno rapes the NFL so you are validated on your opinion over the Chiefs pulling shit out of left field and being right.

I'm not drinking the Kool aid. I'm not a blind sheep. If it was Pioli that made this decision I probably would have to block out anything Chiefs related. I also realize Reid could be completely off here and set us back even further. I just hope he's ****ing right.

Eric Galko ‏@OptimumScouting

Per @RobRang, Geno was impressive in "downfield touch/accuracy, zip OTM, balance throughout his compact release": http://cbssports.com/nfl/draft/blog/...rstround-stuff … …

I like how Chief's fans are even assuming Reid/DMoney WANT to trade their #1. If they trade back to 7 or 8 they won't get their golden boy LT.

Rob Rang ‏@RobRang

Quick take on Geno Smith's Pro Day throwing session. Completed 60/64 passes with two drops from Stedman Bailey: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/b...rstround-stuff …

Pete Prisco ‏@PriscoCBS

I love all the talk about how a kid shows off at his Pro Day throwing the football. That's not what it's about.

I don't really care what his completion % is, I want to know if he hit receivers in stride.

I like how a Jags fan living in Iowa, who never lived in Jax while the Jags franchise existed, thinks he knows the Chiefs franchise better than its fans.

Hmmm shocking!

We've seen this on tape...but hes not good enough for the Chiefs!

Smith's college playbook from the "Air Raid" system was mostly horizontal and crossing route dependent. Intermediate accuracy is his greatest strength. What evaluators need to see if whether Smith can throw on the move, maintain his balance and accuracy on rollouts and waggle design, and throw with zip while hitting targets at 25-plus yards and beyond.

Thursday's pro day was attended by 28 of 32 NFL teams. The Eagles worked out Smith earlier in the week and ran him through an unrehearsed, full-scale passing workout that exceeded 80 throws. Bills general manager Buddy Nix was present as were high-ranking reps for the Chiefs (No. 1), Jaguars (No. 2), Raiders (No. 3), Browns (6) and Cardinals (7), among others.

Head coach Gus Bradley represented the Jaguars and Mike Tomlin represented the Steelers, who could have interest in wide receiver Tavon Austin after losing Mike Wallace in free agency. The Minnesota Vikings, who lost another high-profile receiver in Percy Harvin, were also on hand to look closely at a player with a similar skill set in Austin.

Any team interested in Smith will want to see more, and get him out of the overpracticed routine he owned at the team's indoor practice facility Thursday.

If he can replicate his pro day performance in that next phase of the pre-draft gauntlet after a solid showing at the scouting combine, Smith solidifies a spot in the top half of the first round


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/b...rstround-stuff

Go watch any game from this year and tell me he doesn't.
He's really effing good at it.

You keep talking about where I live like a butthurt child as if it has any relevance. Like 5 frequent posters here live in the same town as me. The chiefs don't play in Cedar Rapids.

And no one said I know the chief's franchise better. I pointed out that you are making assumptions with no evidence. I have never seen the Chiefs themselves ever make any mention of wanting to trade down.

Fix'd for ya.

As a WV fan, I was not happy with Geno's performances vs half decent defenses last year. yeah it would be nice to have him, but not at #1 pick.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...gg2PewyijTVol8

Geno looking good only helps us. Hopefully either someone trades up or we go total crazy and stack the QB position. I would be happy with either though I know the second option is isn't going to happen.

As a WV fan, you should know that TTech and Kstate coaching completely destroyed WV's gameplan. They got up early and then focused on taking away the deep ball so that Geno couldn't get them back in the game.

Kstate was a fantastic team, and with WV's defense... there was no way in hell they were going to be competitive.

I have a feeling we're going to experience a collective kick to the nuts on draft day.

Which assumption did I make? We have evidence that the Chiefs are very interested in Jockel. The Jags brass have mentioned trading down many times. I have yet to hear the same from the Chiefs.

If you want him and you only have one first round pick what difference does it make that it is the first pick?

Only LT's are worth the 1.1 to these ****ing idiots.

For starters:

They won the trade. They got the better end of the deal.

How do you judge that?

They got the better player plus extra picks. And to top it off, they got a better QB with their 2nd round pick.

Big Cat Country ‏@BigCatCountry

#Jaguars meet with Geno Smith, impressed by accuracy http://sbn.to/16uIEOR

During Vick's time in Atlanta, the Chargers & Falcons each made the playoffs twice. Zero Super Bowls. And to top it off, that 2nd round QB didn't prosper in San Diego so I'm unsure how that adds to the equation.

Well I think they got the better player at a lower pick plus got additional picks

And what did that 'win' them? Both teams had 47 wins over the 2001-2006 period.

No one in their right mind thinks Mike Vick is a better player than LaDainian Tomlinson.

Failing to keep Drew Brees around and coach him to his full potential is distinct from recognizing that potential on draft day.

They got the better end of the trade. If you judge every move by winning a Super Bowl, there are very few good moves. What did drafting Derrick Thomas or Tony Gonzalez "win" us?

No one's disputing that.

Nothing. Therefore we didn't 'win' the draft.

Yep, they got the better end of the trade. They later screwed up by letting Brees go and going with Rivers

I'm not sure what youre looking for

1) Joeckel - KC Chiefs
2) Geno - Jacksonville Jaguars
3) Floyd - Oakland Raiders
4) Jordan - Philly Eagles
5) Milliner - Detroit Lions

UPDATE THOSE MOCK DRAFTS KIDDOS!

:LOL:

So the Jags are going to draft Geno in 2013 and Bridgewater in 2014?

That would be good for my Lions, and I'd be rooting for the Jags.
I would laugh at the Chiefs all year long.

Just draft him. God forbid that we're stacked at the quarterback position.

You don't win the superbowl with one draft pick. Judging an individual pick on the basis of team performance is idiotic. Two-time Super Bowl champion starter Antowain Smith was not a better RB than Barry Sanders.

I'd suggest you take a look at the 2003/2004 seasons and think again. The team that got the QB was in the NFC title game, the team that traded down picked #1 overall.

Exactly.

We could gain so much more by taking him. If we take a LT we are just spinning our tires.

You asked what the Chargers won with their trade. That's what they won.

I must have missed when Barry Sanders was traded for Antowain Smith?

Barry didn't win a superbowl because his team lacked _______ what?





























A Quarterback.

"we" didn't win anything.

You know who did? The Cowboys.

You know how they did it?

Taking a QB first overall and still spent a second rounder to take another qb in the supplemental draft.

I made this sig because I assumed our front office was stupid. But clearly they have come to their senses about how beautiful Geno's soul truly is. I will obviously have to change it when I get a minute.

And the conventional wisdom is that Elway didn't win a superbowl until he had a running back. What's your point and how is it relevant to the issue of whether or not a pick or a trade for a single player should be judged on the basis of team performance?

You did miss something. I'm not going to help you though.

Whoops. Elway took 3 average teams to the dance while being handcuffed by his HC.


Next argument.

He got them there what 3 times before he won. How many times did the chiefs get there during elways career? Yeah.