Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9499379)

Which point are you talking about? Hill was an undrafted Free Agent in 2002, he signed with the Vikings. He didn't get any real playing time but went through Training Camp and practices for three years as the #3 guy. He did go play for Amsterdam for a year to get some playing time in while he was there. He was on the 9ers from 2006-2009.

Meanwhile Smith was drafted in '05 by the 9ers and went on and off the field as a rookie competing with Hill. In 2006 he was named the starter. In 2007 he was again the starter, but injured his shoulder. The HC at the time basically called him a pussy for not playing though it even though it was a pretty serious injury. He missed some games, tried to come back, couldn't play well with it. Eventually he had surgery for it. In 2008 he was trying to get the starting job back after the surgery. He couldn't play well enough to do it, losing the job to O'Sullivan. That's right. O'Sullivan. Later that year the 9ers found out that Smith's injury didn't heal properly, even after the surgery (gee, I guess he really was hurt badly?) and they put Smith on IR. Hill did later take the starting job again...from O'Sullivan as Smith was on IR at the time.

So..yeah. It's really not as simple as you make it out to be. Smith is a decent QB.

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9499388)

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Alex Smith sucked most of his career.

During 2008 he was outplayed by a turd named Shaun Hill. At that point he was a veteran. And even next season, when he was a year older, he wasn't as good as Hill had been.

But yeah, Smith is "decent." Almost as "decent" as Matt Cassel was in New England. Yay!

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9499418)

You mean in 2008 when O'Sullivan was the starter, Smith was #2 and Hill was #3? And then Smith was put on IR because his shoulder was still messed up even after surgery, and then Hill beat out O'Sullivan for the stating job after Smith was put on IR? Oh, by the way, the highly unstable 9ers fired HC Mike Nolan and gave the job to Mike Singletary during this time.

Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9499423)

I'm trying to say that he played with the same talent as Hill in 2007 and 2009, and yet Hill was a better QB in 2008. Does that make sense?

Shaun Hill had all the disadvantages that Alex Smith had, yet was able to play better.

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 9499566)

Repeat after me;

We have a last place schedule next year. It will be impossible for KC not to be a better team next year. And it won't mean JACK!

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9499668)

True enough, another somewhat surprising 10-6 season on a weak schedule should be considered something of a mirage, we've seen this before... its 2014 that will tell the whole thruth.

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 9499566)

Repeat after me;

We have a last place schedule next year. It will be impossible for KC not to be a better team next year. And it won't mean JACK!

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9500196)

Ya think???

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 9500242)

At whom was that directed?

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 9499566)

Repeat after me;

We have a last place schedule next year. It will be impossible for KC not to be a better team next year. And it won't mean JACK!

Originally Posted by Alex Smith 4Ever (Post 9500371)

I believe!

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 9499910)

I honestly don't get the Smith=Cassel shit, short of CP PTSD.

If Aaron Rodgers and the Mannings are Central Park West, Smith is Harlem and Cassel is the outer reaches of Long Island.

Smith may not be more game manager than load shoulderer, but Cassel couldn't muster even game manager unless it was against the worst teams in the league. He made brain farts that seemed previously unfathomable. He made simple passes in that flat that were so off target that they stopped the receiver in his tracks and got him run over like Letterman's stalker on the train tracks, the pants pooping under pressure fertilized a small farm one county over, his audibles were so obvious the defense could make the stop with a cigarette draped from their lips.

If we get a minimal return Smith and he's merely competent and cautious, it'll still be a huge upgrade.

Originally Posted by jimw51 (Post 9500532)

All these experts on this board all the ex coaches and gms telling is what the team to do

Originally Posted by jimw51 (Post 9500532)

All these experts on this board all the ex coaches and gms telling is what the team to do

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9498928)

It says that Shaun Hill was able to grasp Mike Martz offense better than Matt Cassel, who at the time, was on his fourth offense in four years.

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9500416)

That your choice in QB's is rivaled only by your junior high skills in choosing a username? Yeah, me too.
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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 9500907)

FYP

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9500950)

Wow. I just took a look at the 2005 draft: Alex Smith, Aaron Rogers, Kyle Orton and Matt Cassel.

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 9500951)

We could get every single one except for the future HOFer.

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9500953)

I don't feel sorry for you. Our drafts from the Shannahan and McDaniels era can be summed up in two moves: We picked Ashlie Lelie over Ed Reed, and we traded away a 1st round pick to draft Alphonso Smith in the second round.

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9498618)

Meh. I think if Manning stays healthy then the Broncos win the division. I definitely expect KC to do better than last year though. Alex Smith is not a bad QB.