I don't have any expectations.

But, my assumption would be he would play because our lack of front court depth.

I couldn't hardly stomach any social media or TV last night. I come back today and we've already got a thread up for next season. I love this place.

I'm still shocked as to what happened last night.

I'm a little worried about the D, but our offense is going to be 1000% better.

So when are we gonna have a PG who isn't a total dipshit?

I think Joel is going to shock some people on this board. He is so naturally gifted that the summer camps will be enough to mold him to compete with Lucas for a starting spot.

This team will be young... But much more talented than last years team. There is was some talent on our bench that would have started on just about any other big 12 team.

Naadir has grown a lot this year. Adding Frankamp and Mason next year.

5 PG's on the radar for 2014, 3 of 'em 5 stars. We oughta land one or two.

We are a lovable collection of obnoxious, dedicated assholes. Screw the haters.

No, we still have Tharpe who farted out a nice 1-8 last night in a tight loss. He's the latest dumb guard in the Self horse stable. The days of Russell and Mario loom further in the rear view mirror with each passing day .....

Sherron-Tyshawn-Elijah has been one heckuva sequence. I hope Tharpe continues to improve; we was more reliable than Elijah most of the year. What's the word on that Conner kid?

He can shoot.

EJ was just an incredibly inconsistent player who showed flashes of great play and poor play regularly. It had nothing to do with not listening to coaches. From all accounts, he seemed to have a great relationship with them.

That's because he wasn't a PG. He was playing out of his natural position all year and looked like it. For all the good the team did (when they played well, they were as good as anybody in the country), it could never get over the loss of Tyshawn (at least the good Tyshawn, overall he was very inconsistent as well for much of his career) as neither EJ or Tharpe effectively filled in there.

The problem for EJ's basketball career isn't really mental, it's that he simply isn't that good. He doesn't effectively create shots for others, he's not a particularly good outside shooter, and he's not known for his defense. He shows flashes of major talent, but that isn't enough. Which leaves him where exactly? He'll have to fight hard for a professional career...at least much harder than Sherron has. I wish him luck.

I do hope so. It may take a while for him to become that kind of presence, though. It usually does for many of these raw guys.

I'm a little scared of everything with Tharpe being the main PG. He's got the talent to pull it off effectively, but he's got to try to reign himself in a bit. Definitely can't have another season like this year if we're going to be a great team, we need him to be the guy that was dropping dimes for a few games in February there.

At this stage -- I'm more content with Embiid being more of a defender, than offensive player at this moment.

If he can rebound and alter/block shots I'll be more than happy.

I think he might wind up being the steal of that class.

I'm also stoked to have a sharpshooter like Frankamp coming in too. Our first legitimate sharpshooter since Boschee, IMO.

@WarLordRio: Wonder what god has in store for me from this point on and where I'm going to end up next.. the ride was epic...

Dumb kid.

The only guy in that bunch that I liked was Tyshawn. Sherron played too reckless at times for a PG, and Elijah wasn't a true point guard (I loved his role last year as a depth guard). I thought Sherron was overrated and I never felt comfortable when he was at the point.

Too often KU teams have been shut down by teams with great defending guards. They need reliable play at Point Guard.

Yeah, Tyshawn was streaky but not quite the doofus Sherron and Elijah were. I really would like a true QB at PG though... Someday...

Seeya later idiot

Sherron was a killer PG. He was awesome for us. Not sure what there is to dislike.

We don't need O from Embiid next year. Just d. We will have plenty of scoring with Ellis and the new guards.

Oh he's lotto potential for sure. I think 16% of 7-footers in America are in the nba. His odds to make the league are good and since he I already a top 30 recruit on espn despite only playing two years....we are talking possibly the highest upside of any recruit since Danny. Maybe Raef. I don't know what to expect early on but he did beat Wiggins in a tourney last month, out scoring him. That's scary stuff

We're gonna be just as good next year. Experience lacking but more talented.

Sherron was a doofus? I've ****ing heard everything now. LMAO

Sherron was the 2nd best PG Bill Self ever had.

All I can say is that I have a lot more confidence going forward with Nadir Tharpe.

But he is going to look very bad to start the year with the amount of new faces around him. I can promise there will be 8 games minimum of growing pains next year before this team settles in.

The lasting memory of Sherron's performance against a certain Iowa team is seared in a lot of people's minds.

Tharpe will be fine.

KU fan cries on the radio after Michigan loss.

http://gamedayr.com/gamedayr/kansas-...to-wolverines/

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Not sure how anybody can talk shit on Sherron, he willed that team so many times. will love that guy as a jayhawk forever.

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Saw a dude in Lee's Summit with a Michigan hoodie on yesterday... I said, UGH... a Michigan fan? He says. Nope. A Mizzou fan. I wore it to piss off the KU fans.

I said. That's OK, I have a Norfolk State shirt. :-) (I don't, but his mood changed quickly)

Tharpe was the PG for about 30 minutes of a sweet 16 game, and led us to a good game minus the end. We will be more than fine with Tharpe.

Sad, sad poster.

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I can't believe MU people actually do these things and care so much about KU. It's so creepy. I didn't even notice MU made the tournament.

Of course it was a MU fan.

The best part about a MU basketball season is to watch Kansas lose. That's pretty much it. I was around it for 10 yrs living in Columbia. What else do they really have to look forward to?

I've only visited Lawrence a handful of times outside of just going to bball games at AFH so I can't say if people there walk around in NorfolkSt gear or Tyus Edney jerseys, but in Columbia there are numerous MU fans (mostly college students) that STILL wear Bucknell shit, although that may stop now since Bucknell almost beat their asses at the Paige this year.

I'm still sick to my stomach about this loss. This loss hurt like the Bucknell, UNI, and VCU losses. God damn....Hopefully the Royals bust out from the starting line like they did in 2003, instead of being mathematically out of it by the end of May.

I'm just really sick of watching March Madness right now. I need to rant. Meanwhile we get to watch Alex Smith and a suckass draft that won't immediately help the Chiefs at all.

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Looks like Andrew Wiggins is a Kentucky Wildcat after watching this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=5PE44ahgxiQ …

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Keep the UK shit out of this thread.

They'll underachieve just like this year.

Might be already covered but I haven't read through, what are the thoughts on the Big12 next year?

Was I that dumb and wide eyed at 18? Cal might as well molest them they all seem so stupid.

Tharpe went 1-8 Friday.

Will we win the conference again ? We will have a very talented, but young team.

He basically lost the game vs. UNI with bad shots/mistakes, so applying the thinking of several here, we should hate him forever. Of course to do that, you would have to completely ignore all of the great things he accomplished with KU before that.

Tharpe wasn't good on Friday either. He also was one of the least efficient shooters in the entire Self era this season.

Tharpe is going to have to get better (and show more of his controlled, facilitating play from February) if the conference streak is to continue, I think. The talent is there, though.

PG just needs to distribute. If he can score too then great.

EJ: 24 minutes, 0 assists
Tharpe: 32 minutes, 7 assists

At least he knows how to pass

Sometimes he does when he shows his flashes of creation ability, but most of the time he doesn't and decides instead to jack bad percentage, contested jumpers. Tharpe's assist rate was only slightly better (28.3 to 27.1) this season than EJ. There was little difference between them in that regard.

Tharpe didn't meltdown though, don't know what happened to EJ. Must have been some bad weed.

From Rivals talking about McDonalds All-Americans:

Getting stoked for next year.

eh, **** 'em

he seems so giddy at the thought.

Wiggins comes off like such an immature dbag there.

I don't think he does at all. It does seem as though he's set for UK, but there's always hope he goes somewhere, ANYWHERE, else.

He just comes across as somebody going to Kentucky, which is a perfectly reasonable decision for somebody in his shoes to make.

Tharpe had his own share of meltdowns. Heck, for the first few months, he couldn't even stay on the floor for more than a minute without making a mistake. It's significant progress in itself, I guess, that he was able to play as much as he did by the end.

Rio's transferring.

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I'm transferring to another school and will be getting released Tomorrow.... I love this team no matter what !!! I've learned a lot here!!

Not shocking.

Whoopty doo.

There wasn't much playing time for him next year anyway. It would have been nice to have him as an upperclassman though.

I'll miss the .gifs.

Yeah we're loaded next year. He wouldn't see the court with the talent that's coming in at the backcourt.

Rio not surprising anyone. Hopefully his scholarship goes to good use. Lot's upheaval to come with transfers and recruits reneging on verbal commitments. Hopefully Bill can make a move late.

Honestly, after hearing that Willie Cauley-Stein and Alex Poythress are coming back to UK and looking at their incoming class (with the addition of Wiggins likely) I don't see how all of those recruits suit up for UK next year.

They won't. Have to think there will be some decommits/transfers coming out of there.

Word is that despite recent rumblings KU is still strongly in the running for Wiggins. But I doubt he'll come to KU.

I was watching this recruiting show on ESPNU yesterday and as far as UK goes they brought up the same point: Most kids want to play (that's why Rio is leaving) and a lot of talented players won't get a lot of minutes at UK that they would have at another school. No kid wants to "be apart of the best recruiting class in history" like what Cal is allegedly feeding this kids and the public, they mostly care about playing and getting to the NBA. As the guy on the show stated, you can't get showcased properly by playing limited minutes or in a backup role. He then gave the other guy a look and waved his hand in front of his face alluding something fishy is going on then they started talking football recruiting.

It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when Cal is going down.

How? They already signed LOIs. They can't go unless released. And why would Cal release a #1 signee at his position? These toolbox idiots sign early with Cal in the Fall without even waiting to see departures or over-signs. They deserve their fate. YOu're going to have some guys riding pine all year who would start at 90% of D1 schools.


I hope Wiggins goes there if not KU. I hope they keep stacking these losers on the end of benches, so future recruits say: "Whoa. I may not want to sign with Cal just yet. Maybe I'll do the smart thing and wait until I know more about the rosters." Any top-20 guy who signs before the Spring period is an idiot unless he's replacing a departing Senior or a McLemore type.

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When is Wiggins deciding so that we can put it behind us?

There was a post on Jayhawk slant about a month ago that said that Rio was going to be transferring next year and not of his own volition.

This was before all of the Rio anger tweets.

The guy - for what it's worth - also said that the Wiggins recruiting was very much for real, that Frank Mason is going to be a four year starter at point guard, and something else I can't remember.

Anyway, this was right after some KU event and the guy is friends with one of the AC. Take it for what you will, but there's one of his predictions (one I didn't believe) that has come true.

May 15, according to an LJW article (interview/comment by Wiggins' mother).

This is true. Self hates Rio, which I've heard from two difference sources who would know such things. No shock he's out

Exactly.

I'm optimistic more often than not, but there's no way we land Wiggins.

I won't be upset if we don't.

Recruiting is an obnoxious thing to try to follow.

@NextCats: Florida signee Chris Walker has been hanging out with Wiggins a lot this week. When asked to guess, his prediction was Kansas.

@HoopsGlory: Not trying to get #Kansas' fans up because I think it's still anybody's guess but Wiggins and Kansas are picking up some momentum.

ohhhh snap ni##a !!!

I know I'm jaded, but all I see is Calipari trying to drum up more intrigue so he can beat KU in a recruiting war again.

To me, every top prospect is UK bound until they sign a LOI with someone else. And even then, I'd like to see them on the court before I count anything out.

Matt Jones ‏@KySportsRadio 2 Apr

Had a person who I trust tell me today "people shouldn't discount Andrew Wiggins going to Kansas. They are a strong contender"

I agree. I think Cal floats this crap out on purpose because he knows the dumb kid he's about to sign loves the attention that comes with it.

Am I missing something?

Has ChiefsandOsfan suddenly become a Chiefs fan?

I really can't stand all of these tweets.

Rio is gone because he has a bad attitude, I think. Which sucks, because I think he would have been a terrific on-ball defender for us, with the ability to knock down some shots.

Self just doesn't tolerate a "me-first" attitude, which Rio couldn't seem to let go of.

Yeah. I was kind of excited about him after he gets some experience. I'm DEFINITELY going to miss his sideline antics.