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WhiteWhale 06-30-2014 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ragedogg69 (Post 10723769)
I thought the plot was pretty much rich vs poor. Same as it has been forever, like Robin Hood. Not really right vs left. And just like the Hunger Games, they present this world in the most reeruned way possible.

To be fair, the entire premise of hunger games was so patently absurd I could never really immerse myself in the film.

Deberg_1990 06-30-2014 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10724193)
I found it more to be an allegory for immigration reform.

Space station = America

Earth = Mexico

It was NOT subtle. The evil kill bots were called 'homeland security' or something like that. I felt this was the political message being hammered home more than a 1% type of thing. It just felt more like a PSA to me than a sci fi flick...and that's pretty bad because sci fi flicks are almost always robust with social and political commentary.

That's pretty much how I saw it as well.

An allegory for immigration policies.

I loved the look of the film too. Blomkamp Has a real talent for creating "lived in" world building and realistic special effects. I totally dug the robots in this film.

Deberg_1990 06-30-2014 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10724197)
To be fair, the entire premise of hunger games was so patently absurd I could never really immerse myself in the film.

Hunger games is based on YA novels. Nothing about that genre could be considered realistic.

BWillie 06-30-2014 07:01 PM

Oblivion > Elysium

WhiteWhale 07-01-2014 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10724269)
That's pretty much how I saw it as well.

An allegory for immigration policies.

I loved the look of the film too. Blomkamp Has a real talent for creating "lived in" world building and realistic special effects. I totally dug the robots in this film.

Yeah, I have no complaints about the way the movie looked. It looked great.

Rausch 07-01-2014 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10724637)
Oblivion > Elysium

Oblivion is ****ing terrible...

Rausch 07-01-2014 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10724193)
I found it more to be an allegory for immigration reform.

Space station = America

Earth = Mexico

It was NOT subtle.

Uh, no.

Everyone in America is not rich. EVERYONE on the station was rich.

It was a commentary on the rich lording over the poor.

Anything else is the bias of your own politics, dislikes, and projections...

BWillie 07-01-2014 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10727174)
Oblivion is ****ing terrible...

I thought it was fantastic

-King- 07-02-2014 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10727182)
Uh, no.

Everyone in America is not rich. EVERYONE on the station was rich.

It was a commentary on the rich lording over the poor.

Anything else is the bias of your own politics, dislikes, and projections...

Actually he's right. It was about immigration. And to some poor Mexicans, all Americans are rich.
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Rausch 07-02-2014 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10727592)
Actually he's right. It was about immigration. And to some poor Mexicans, all Americans are rich.
Posted via Mobile Device

Actually, he's not.

The director is from ****ing South Africa and has made a point, at every ****ing opportunity, to point out his films reflect that situation.

He has commented numerous times on the idea that wealth equals power and poverty equals helplessness.

To make this a left vs. right argument is ignorance.

This isn't a hollywood agenda film - it's a man with hollywood money making a film...

Ash 07-02-2014 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10727592)
Actually he's right. It was about immigration. And to some poor Mexicans, all Americans are rich.
Posted via Mobile Device

It was about immigration here is the story of his inspiration
,http://news.moviefone.com/2013/07/25...mexico-arrest/


Also I am looking forward to his new movie this March named Chappie.The movie is about a kidnapped police robot played by Sharlto Copley who played Vickers from district 9 and Kruger in Elysium.

ragedogg69 07-02-2014 11:27 AM

Speaking of Kruger, wasnt the "this movie is not going to get better" moment when Kruger gets his half his head blown off and 5 mins later he is back and better than ever? The whole time after that I am like do the same with Matt Damon and there is zero conflict.

WhiteWhale 07-02-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10727182)
Uh, no.

Everyone in America is not rich. EVERYONE on the station was rich.

It was a commentary on the rich lording over the poor.

Anything else is the bias of your own politics, dislikes, and projections...

Tell me what my politics, dislikes, and projections are captain pseudo psychology.

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10727616)
Actually, he's not.

The director is from ****ing South Africa and has made a point, at every ****ing opportunity, to point out his films reflect that situation.

He has commented numerous times on the idea that wealth equals power and poverty equals helplessness.

To make this a left vs. right argument is ignorance.

This isn't a hollywood agenda film - it's a man with hollywood money making a film...

There's cross over but the movie was clearly an allegory for the US/mexico situation which does include a disparity in wealth... which I think would be obvious to pretty much anyone. YOU are the one projecting. Of course, you probably know better than the director what his influences and aspirations for his movie were. You watched it.

I've said it before, and I"ll say it again... if you're going to be an asshole, be CORRECT.

-King- 07-02-2014 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10727616)
Actually, he's not.

The director is from ****ing South Africa and has made a point, at every ****ing opportunity, to point out his films reflect that situation.

He has commented numerous times on the idea that wealth equals power and poverty equals helplessness.

To make this a left vs. right argument is ignorance.

This isn't a hollywood agenda film - it's a man with hollywood money making a film...

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Originally Posted by Ash (Post 10727619)
It was about immigration here is the story of his inspiration
,http://news.moviefone.com/2013/07/25...mexico-arrest/

LMAO

Ash 07-02-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10727892)
LMAO

Here is a quote from Sharlto on Bloomkamps new film it sounds like hes not going to really have a message in this one.

Both District 9 and Blomkamp's sophomore film Elysium had sociopolitical themes. When asked if Chappie also touched upon real world issues, the actor said, "This one no. This one not so much man."

Adding, "This one's having fun. There's not a big social/political message in this one. There are some things that some people might take away, but it's very different from the last two in the way."

This link also has footage of his short film that is the precursor to Chappie called Tetra Vaal. The rap / rave group Die Antwoord plays the gangsters that kidnap Chappie.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/05/...-halo-unlikely

NewChief 07-02-2014 09:04 PM

Just having Die Antwoord in it is sure to be surreal. I hope they let them run a little wild.

Ash 07-02-2014 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 10728670)
Just having Die Antwoord in it is sure to be surreal. I hope they let them run a little wild.

I read that Ninja was kind of crazy on the set.You know its going to be interesting with those two in the movie.

http://twitchfilm.com/2014/03/die-an...n-chappie.html


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