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Halfcan 09-10-2013 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9959001)
Yep. And I'm not trying to be a "know-it-all" dickhead or something.

It's outright unlistenable. Maybe they're better live, as recording is a completely different animal.

I have seen them 3 times. They put on a great show- first half- Bon era-with one singer- than second show with Johnson stuff. I would give the nod to the Bon Scott stuff they play a lot of songs No band ever plays.

Not sure what recording that is but they have sounded great with the exception of the Sandstone on the Dream rocker tribute show. Their were sound problems most of their set-the PA sucked for all the bands. Not sure wtf happened but at harrah's they were great and last week at Worth they nailed it. I am not sure you could get closer to the real music. I have seen AC Dc many times.

Halfcan 09-10-2013 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9958792)
My buddy John plays bass for them.

He did a great job!!

DaneMcCloud 09-10-2013 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9960610)
I have seen them 3 times. They put on a great show- first half- Bon era-with one singer- than second show with Johnson stuff. I would give the nod to the Bon Scott stuff they play a lot of songs No band ever plays.

Not sure what recording that is but they have sounded great with the exception of the Sandstone on the Dream rocker tribute show. Their were sound problems most of their set-the PA sucked for all the bands. Not sure wtf happened but at harrah's they were great and last week at Worth they nailed it. I am not sure you could get closer to the real music. I have seen AC Dc many times.

As I mentioned earlier, they might be great live. Recording is a completely different animal and very, very difficult for non-professionals.

Halfcan 09-10-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 9960534)
Wow. That was awful. These guys played with Megadeth and Maiden? :spock:

No they played a free show on Friday. Maiden was on Sat. Both kicked ass!

Halfcan 09-10-2013 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9960626)
As I mentioned earlier, they might be great live. Recording is a completely different animal and very, very difficult for non-professionals.

I see where you are coming from- that recording is flat and not a very good representation of the band for sure. Tributes will never be the same as the real thing, but they do great-even with recent line up changes. If you listen to very early bootlegs of the real AC DC- its pretty close.

DaneMcCloud 09-10-2013 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9960643)
I see where you are coming from- that recording is flat and not a very good representation of the band for sure. Tributes will never be the same as the real thing, but they do great-even with recent line up changes. If you listen to very early bootlegs of the real AC DC- its pretty close.

Except they're not even close.

They don't play like AC/DC. They're not playing behind the beat and the drummer sucks ass.

I realize that most people just listen to the singer and that's fine. But if you listen to the band - the guitarist, bassist and drummer - they're missing all of the essential elements that made AC/DC a great band:

Timing, tones and feel.

Not to mention timeless songwriting, which is clearly something out their realm.

Brock 09-10-2013 05:50 PM

Tribute bands are ****in dumb anyway

DaneMcCloud 09-10-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9960891)
Tribute bands are ****in dumb anyway

The coolest tribute band I ever saw was the early Atomic Punks - A Tribute to Van Halen.

Ralph nailed Dave, Russ (and especially Bryan Young) nailed Eddie and the bassist and drummer were dead ringers as well. They were an absolutely blast to see, especially around 1999-2001, because they were just freaking awesome.

I used to see everyone from B. Real to Fergie to Slash - you name 'em - at the Whiskey when they played.

But yeah, 99.99% of the time, tribute bands completely and utterly suck ass.

LiveSteam 09-10-2013 09:21 PM

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Fairplay 09-10-2013 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 9960534)
Wow. That was awful. These guys played with Megadeth and Maiden? :spock:



They suck bad my goodness, bad tribute band indeed

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-10-2013 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9960035)
No, it absolutely does not.

Please point out where Malcom or Angus Young has EVER played in front of the beat.

Those guys are bluesy rock players that play hella behind the beat.

KCDC is a joke.

Actually, Phil Rudd played behind the beat while the brothers landed somewhere in the middle, if you must know.

And secondly, that band is not something(at least for MY friend anyway)that is taken as life or death. I mean for ****s sake; it's AC/DC.
Knowing John as I do, he'd probably get more kicks out of being in a Mentors tribute band.

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9960614)
He did a great job!!

John and I go back to the original, KC, post-Dallas Billy Goat crew. He's a good enough player, believe me.

DaneMcCloud 09-10-2013 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9961649)
Actually, Phil Rudd played behind the beat while the brothers landed somewhere in the middle, if you must know.

That is absolutely untrue.

The drummer "IS" the beat. Angus and Malcolm didn't play ahead of Phil, they played behind him.

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9961649)
And secondly, that band is not something(at least for MY friend anyway)that is taken as life or death. I mean for ****s sake; it's AC/DC.
Knowing John as I do, he'd probably get more kicks out of being in a Mentors tribute band.

Well, that's a GREAT attitude.

:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9961649)
John and I go back to the original, KC, post-Dallas Billy Goat crew. He's a good enough player, believe me.

Being a "great player" doesn't make for a great band.

You might know less about music than you do football, which, quite frankly, is shocking.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-10-2013 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9961674)
That is absolutely untrue.

I assume you have ears? Use them.



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Well, that's a GREAT attitude.

:rolleyes:
It's a part-time gig designed for yuks and drunkenness.

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Being a "great player" doesn't make for a great band.
Never said they were a great band. I pretty much think tribute bands are useless in general.

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You might know less about music than you do football, which, quite frankly, is shocking.
I might know more about music than you can possibly imagine.

DaneMcCloud 09-10-2013 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9961682)
I assume you have ears? Use them.

LMAO

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9961682)
I might know more about music than you can possibly imagine.

I imagine you know || much.

Why don't you tell us which amp the brothers used on Back in Black? The console it was recorded on? How the snare was mixed and what made it unique?

That's just a few questions for starters.

DaneMcCloud 09-10-2013 10:36 PM

LMAO

I'm sure you're furiously searching the internet.

LMAO

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-10-2013 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9961695)
LMAO



I imagine you know || much.

Why don't you tell us which amp the brothers used on Back in Black? The console it was recorded on? How the snare was mixed and what made it unique?

That's just a few questions for starters.

W/o looking, I believe they were Marshall Majors, the board was a Trident, and the snare, I really couldn't say. Perhaps he pissed on it?

DaneMcCloud 09-10-2013 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9961716)
W/o looking, I believe they were Marshall Majors, the board was a Trident, and the snare, I really couldn't say. Perhaps he pissed on it?

No, no and no.

1979 50 watt two input JMP head, tracked on a Harrison MCI, mixed on a Neve 8078.

The trick with the snare was putting an Eventide 949 detuned 10 cents.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-10-2013 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9961721)
No, no and no.

1979 50 watt two input JMP head, tracked on a Harrison MCI, mixed on a Neve 8078.

The trick with the snare was putting an Eventide 949 detuned 10 cents.

Engineering trivia? Well, okay.

DaneMcCloud 09-10-2013 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9961726)
Engineering trivia? Well, okay.

It's not trivia.

I'd like to know what you *think* you know about music and music production because based on your responses over the years, it's less than zero from my POV.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-10-2013 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9961730)
It's not trivia.

I'd like to know what you *think* you know about music and music production because based on your responses over the years, it's less than zero from my POV.

I think I know how to write and definitely know how to play. Production and mixing, outside of tweaking some sounds on the board live and recording some home demos, really wasn't my area of expertise.

DaneMcCloud 09-10-2013 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9961739)
I think I know how to write and definitely know how to play. Production and mixing, outside of tweaking some sounds on the board live and recording some home demos, really wasn't my area of expertise.

What have you written? Where can I or anyone else hear your music?

And producing is at least as important as songwriting.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-10-2013 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9961741)
What have you written? Where can I or anyone else hear your music?

If I were so inclined to share this with you or the board, I'd have to contact some people and have some files sent. I haven't recorded in a long time, nor did I keep copies.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-10-2013 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9961741)
What have you written? Where can I or anyone else hear your music?

And producing is at least as important as songwriting.

Never said it wasn't.

DaneMcCloud 09-10-2013 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9961766)
If I were so inclined to share this with you or the board, I'd have to contact some people and have some files sent. I haven't recorded in a long time, nor did I keep copies.

So, you're not currently writing and producing music and none of what you have recorded in the past isn't commercially available?

Yeah, Dude, you overplayed your hand.

listopencil 09-10-2013 11:29 PM

Sweet Daddy: I understand that you have a buddy involved in this. I'd stick up for a buddy in a similar situation...but these guys sounded terrible to me. I had to go listen to some AC/DC on YouTube just to wipe out the memory of their covers. And I'm not even overly fond of AC/DC. What I did notice from watching those guys is that all of instruments worked together in a synergistic wave of kick ass music. It's not some kind of deep music that will change the world but it's driving, energetic and fun to listen to. Bon Scott had a crazy style to his singing. I don't know, maybe he was half baked all the time, but he belted shit out and it rocked. Brian Johnson doesn't sound like that. To me he seems more focused, more tightly wound, when he sings. I think he does justice to the old stuff and I like the job he does. Like I said I'm not overly fond of the band. I do enjoy the music though. This KC/DC sounds just horrible if you listen to anything by AC/DC. It's like they are actively trying to kill the music.

listopencil 09-10-2013 11:34 PM

On the other hand I think Iron Maiden is great. Probably my favorite of that style of music. Run To The Hills gives me goosebumps when I hear it.

Halfcan 09-11-2013 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9961716)
W/o looking, I believe they were Marshall Majors, the board was a Trident, and the snare, I really couldn't say. Perhaps he pissed on it?

ROFL You crack me up sometimes-good one!

Halfcan 09-11-2013 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9961822)
On the other hand I think Iron Maiden is great. Probably my favorite of that style of music. Run To The Hills gives me goosebumps when I hear it.

Yep they played it this tour. I just got the new Megadeth yesterday- called Super Conductor-it rocks! Not a bad song on there-even banjo's-lol Just finished Mustaine-Dave's autobiography. Pretty descent read-pretty much sums up why he was an asshole for so many years. He slams everyone, especially Metalicker. What a bunch of D bags. Great read.

Halfcan 09-11-2013 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9961816)
Sweet Daddy: I understand that you have a buddy involved in this. I'd stick up for a buddy in a similar situation...but these guys sounded terrible to me. I had to go listen to some AC/DC on YouTube just to wipe out the memory of their covers. And I'm not even overly fond of AC/DC. What I did notice from watching those guys is that all of instruments worked together in a synergistic wave of kick ass music. It's not some kind of deep music that will change the world but it's driving, energetic and fun to listen to. Bon Scott had a crazy style to his singing. I don't know, maybe he was half baked all the time, but he belted shit out and it rocked. Brian Johnson doesn't sound like that. To me he seems more focused, more tightly wound, when he sings. I think he does justice to the old stuff and I like the job he does. Like I said I'm not overly fond of the band. I do enjoy the music though. This KC/DC sounds just horrible if you listen to anything by AC/DC. It's like they are actively trying to kill the music.

I am sure whatever they recorded that on sucks and it was probably not even mixed. You just have to see them live. If you love Old Ac DC- you will enjoy the show-they know most every song. I mean how long has it been since you heard ANY band play Sin City or Problem Child live??

When you and Dane come to town we will get some beers and rock out. :D

MTG#10 09-11-2013 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9961649)

John and I go back to the original, KC, post-Dallas Billy Goat crew. He's a good enough player, believe me.

Holy shit I forgot all about Billy Goat! Those guys played here in Springfield at the Regency a few times and kicked ass. I had a couple of their t-shirts and was suspended on two separate occasions for wearing them to school ROFL

Im guessing "John" is JJ Richards?

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-11-2013 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 9962401)
Holy shit I forgot all about Billy Goat! Those guys played here in Springfield at the Regency a few times and kicked ass. I had a couple of their t-shirts and was suspended on two separate occasions for wearing them to school ROFL

Im guessing "John" is JJ Richards?

Would that have been thee..."**** Billy Goat" model?:D

I don't know what name he's using. If I played AC/DC, I'd probably change my name too.:evil:

KCUnited 09-11-2013 09:33 AM

I'm nearly positive that I have Bush Roaming Mammels on cd buried in a box somewhere in my basement.

MTG#10 09-11-2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 9962448)
Would that have been thee..."**** Billy Goat" model?:D

I don't know what name he's using. If I played AC/DC, I'd probably change my name too.:evil:

Yep I had that one and one that said **** more bitch less with a "Can of Billy's Cream of Goat Soup" picture on the front ROFL

JJ Richards was Billy Goat's bassist according to wikipedia

Bowser 09-11-2013 02:04 PM

Sweet, 100+ replies on an Iron Maiden thread! In your face, Skip!

Halfcan 09-11-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9963506)
Sweet, 100+ replies on an Iron Maiden thread! In your face, Skip!

:skip::rockon:

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-11-2013 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9962479)
I'm nearly positive that I have Bush Roaming Mammels on cd buried in a box somewhere in my basement.

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 9962599)
Yep I had that one and one that said **** more bitch less with a "Can of Billy's Cream of Goat Soup" picture on the front ROFL

JJ Richards was Billy Goat's bassist according to wikipedia

I didn't really understand it at the time because I was 21 and just wanted to play, get paid, and get laid(which I did extensively), but Billy Goat was pretty much a grindy, pornographic version of the Ohio Players.

Consistent1 09-11-2013 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9962345)
I am sure whatever they recorded that on sucks and it was probably not even mixed. You just have to see them live. If you love Old Ac DC- you will enjoy the show-they know most every song. I mean how long has it been since you heard ANY band play Sin City or Problem Child live??

When you and Dane come to town we will get some beers and rock out. :D

Let me preface this by saying I do not care for Ac/Dc. To me they were almost exactly like them in that vid.

lcarus 09-12-2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 9949709)
Rhyme is a bit excessive for a concert (though I'm SO GLAD I got to see it liv ein 2008).

No "Hallowed By Thy Name" is a major bummer, seeing as its the best heavy metal song ever composed.

Anything off of the Fear of the Dark album NOT named "Fear of the Dark" is a mistake to include. I appreciate the Seventh Son of a Seventh Son focus, though; even if it meant that post-2000s Maiden material got neglected.

When I saw them in Dallas, they did an encore of Hallowed, and it started slightly raining and a cool breeze came over everyone. It was pretty epic.

Halfcan 09-12-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9965912)
When I saw them in Dallas, they did an encore of Hallowed, and it started slightly raining and a cool breeze came over everyone. It was pretty epic.

Great song! ;)

Halfcan 09-12-2013 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9965912)
When I saw them in Dallas, they did an encore of Hallowed, and it started slightly raining and a cool breeze came over everyone. It was pretty epic.

Wish they would play Flight of Icarus btw-not sure why they don't? :hmmm:

If they would have added that- the set list would have been perfect.


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