Yeah. That'll convince him. ****ing moron

Golf is a sport!

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Tom Watson is the man

Depends or not

You can suck it

Fair point, but it's not quite the same. There are many things that are hard and require hours/days/weeks/years of dedication and persistence. My point was, nobody could become a par golfer without being able to recognize it as a sport, which it most definitely is.

I'm not sure I understand. Out of all the activities that require large amounts of time and dedication in order to succeed, golf is one of those activities, but on top of dedicating the same time and dedication you would in other activities, you'd have to define the activity as a "sport" in your mind? What if someone wanted to get good at golf but didn't think it was a sport at all, but rather a fun activity no different than chess, competitive video games, or guitar playing?

It's not up to me to define what "is" and what "is not" a sport, and I am not trying to do so. My only point is I challenge anybody to shoot par and then say "golf is not a sport". That is all.

I agree with you that golf is a sport. A sport requires physical athleticism and/or physical dexterity. The people who don't consider it a sport feel that way because they perceive the word to mean something more in line with how they personally see the word used. In one person's world of "sports" they may watch or play football, basketball, and wrestling, and golf just doesn't seem to fit.

Now if they wanna call it a pussy sport, fair enough lol.

It's definitely a sport.

And so is bowling!

More informational than argumentative, but this is about 99% true, as truly elite golfers can actually save a poor swing with perfect timing in their hands. Tiger Woods used to do it all the time when he'd get "stuck".

There's a site called ProCon.org, which describes itself as a nonpartisan research organization devoted to critical thinking on controversial issues (lol) and they had this debate. People use the definition of "sport" and "game" and it's basically kinda...both. Popular Science determined that whether one would call golf a sport or not depends on if you have a set of clubs in the garage.

Shit like this fascinates me. I had a big stupid argument with a co-worker about whether a "pastel" is a painting or not. I claimed that calling it a pastel was fine, he was adamant that calling it a painting was wrong and that I was an idiot. The American Association of Pastels (or something like that, I can't remember) claimed that pastels were paintings. I talked to other artists that said they were not.

So basically what shit like this comes down to is...nobody is really right or wrong. It's just like...your opinion man. After seeing debates and having debates about shit like this, I've come to the conclusion that dictionary definitions can basically go **** themselves. Language isn't set in stone for all eternity. Language and words evolve and change meaning and become new meanings all the time.

If I say "Hey that homosexual on CP was a real ass today" and EVERYONE knows that I meant Blackbob, does it really matter whether he truly likes penis or not? If I say a word and it is clearly understood, does the true Merriam-Webster definition matter?

damn..that must be why the golf clubs are in the kitchen ware department..

:rolleyes:

A golfer could out putt me with a nice pair of BBQ tongs. A pool shark could beat me at pool with a tire iron.

That doesn't have any significance to anything. I just felt like saying it.

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Holy crap, they really are!

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It's not as good as a Titleist, but it could get the job done.

rockoff...that's clearly a wedge

Tiger could give me his set of clubs and use nothing but his feet and still beat me by 30 strokes.

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Hey guys is bowling a sport cuz will manjensen wear cup and can has 12 year old. I love lamp.

You can pull a hammy bowling, so yeah it's a sport. Well crap, then I guess masturbating in a kiddy pool full of lasagna has to be a sport too. Nevermind...

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Golf is a sport in the same way that women are allowed to work

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The only real sport is the decathlon and the only real athletes are decathletes. Nothing else compares.

Golf is an activity, but it isn't a sport.

It's a non athletic sport. You can be an athlete that plays golf but you don't have to be an athlete to be any good at it. It's about the same as playing billiards but doing it outside. Watson just about beat all these guys a couple of years ago in one of the majors. There's no real athleticism involved if a 60 year old can go toe to toe with a bunch of 20 something year olds for 4 days.

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This is true when:
You ride in a cart, smoke a pack of camels and drink a 6 pack.

This is not true when:
You carry your clubs for 18 holes, you physically strengthen yourself and train your body in order to better yourself for the game.

Is archery a sport? What about competitive shooting? It all depends on how hard you work at it.

On what part of his body does Tom Watson wear a 14 year old?

As a bowler with years of over 200 averages, and even some injuries, I will say that I just don't consider it nor golf sports. But I also don't consider racing, driving or running, to be sports either. Pretty much my definition follows along the line of it being an athletic competition where the opponent has a direct influence on the opposite opponent. I know others have some higher standards, because my def allows ping pong to be a sport, lol.

These are learned skillsets. Like bowling and swinging a golf club. Not much athleticism involved.

Yeah and in today's game almost all fat, young and old golfers can't compete.

You do realize those fat ****s in the above picture can probably out run your ass and lift your car mentos style, while the fat ****s below well they could still probably out run you, but they can't even power walk ROFL

Mentos style lol. Yeah those dudes can all probably run 5.0 40s. Half a second slower than Jamaal Charles basically lol. They're pretty fast considering they're huge.

Golf is definitely a sport. A damn hard one too. If you disagree oh well you are not in the majority so get over it.

Golf is a skill.

It's like Darts, Bowling, or knowing how to get your wife to cook on gameday and consider it a compliment...

I call bullshit on that

Man vs man. Man vs the weather / course. Man vs himself.

Just because its a game played by duffers and old codgers on the weekends doesn't it make it any less of a sport.

Or......


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Here is the very definition. Most people agree in the definition as well.
Sport: is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. Sports commonly refer to activities where the physical capabilities of the competitor are the sole or primary determiner of the outcome (winning or losing), but the term is also used to include activities such as mind sports and motor sports where mental acuity or equipment quality are major factors.

Sport: Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.

Sport: An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.

Therefore Golf is a sport and the majority of educated people would agree with that whether or not they like the sport.

depends

LMAO

It says I have to spread it around more but there's no way I agree with you this much...:hmmm:

More Rausch love for the rest of us!

Yes, but using that definition card games and checkers are sports since they are mind games. What the rest of us are saying is that the definition has become to vague. Nobody is saying that it is easy to be good at, or that we don't like golf, but just because some people want to call everything they do a sport, doesn't mean that it should be.

- edit - Hell, by the definition the jokers on that stupid cable show bidding on storage sheds could be a sport. Trying to get others to spend their money by forcing them to bid up is a mind game...

Only if you are using just one of the definitions I provided. A person has to use all of those definitions together to get to the best categorization. A sport still has to be physical with exertion and rules governing that physicality as well as a skill that works with that physicality.

Girly ball

But but but but, I have a truck........but I get your point. I'm just pointing out that washboard abs isn't a requirement to be an athlete.

The truth is, beyond common sense, it's difficult to define a sport. Many have argues that baseball isn't based on the number of fat guys in the sport. Some argue that there has to be some kind of increased and sustained heart rate.

I don't know, but we'll debate this lame topic for years to come...

The worst thing about the masters is all the time spent wasting watching dipshits who are +8 today.

Who gives a shit?

And then the announcers spooge over some great shot they made.

Who gives a shit? They're +8.

Yeah, golf is exactly like darts and bowling. Jesus Christ.

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If men are better at it than women it is a sport

so life is a sport?

It requires a gift to have ball placement. Short or long game - that's true.

There are people who can or can't. You have it or you don't.

But it's still bowling for the rich. The more you think about it the more it truly is the same.

I think you haven't thought about it enough with a club in your hands. The more you think about it, the more that's true.

I've had lessons, worked as a kid for a CC, and spent hours on the range using stolen drivers to pound range balls.

I won't deny there is an inherent talent. Some angry 17 year old, unlimited course time, and some clubs make not a good golfer.

At the same time you can't compare that to most sports...

anybody who considers golf not to be a sport probably

A) doesn't golf

or

B) is a super shitty golfer

I'm sure it was just an amazing coincidence that the greatest golfer of our time approached the game like an athlete would.

ROFLMAO! Thanks, I needed that.

I have no idea what that means.

I've found the biggest haters are the non-athletes that can barely hit a golf ball... if at all. Most of them are uncoordinated buffoons that can't get out of their own way without tripping. They think the game sucks because they suck at the game.

Look at all the professional athletes from other sports that absolutely LOVE playing golf. It's a challenge that's simple, but really difficult.

I know you don't.

I find it damn funny about how defensive people are about it. Nobody is saying that it is easy to do, nobody is saying that being in better shape doesn't help. But broken down, it is just you against yourself and the elements. FTR, I don't even consider the 100 yard dash a sport either, it is a race and on the olympic level those guys are studs. Same with male gymnastics, not a sport, but damn those are some real athletes.

Well, when people are stupidly comparing it to darts and bowling, or any other sport where you can be drunk and excel at it, they are saying that it's easy to do, and that being in better shape doesn't help. What's next, comparing it to ****ing billiards and pinball? Golf is defined as a sport by any credible definition, anyone saying it isn't simply has no concept of the body mechanics involved, nor of the definition of the word "sport".

The beautiful thing about it is that no two courses are the same. Par varies from course to course, muni courses so wide-open that a hack like me can break 80, followed by private clubs that will drive the average golfer insane with their slope, false fronts, water hazards and greens slicker than goose shit.

Golf is a sport but it's a non athletic sport. You don't have to be an athlete to play it or be good at it.

You are going to have to show me the 220+ average bowlers that drinks a lot while they do it, I think you don't know all the work and on the fly adjustments a good bowler has to make. I know a lot of decent golfers who drink a damn lot while they golf as a counter point.

For me it is simple, the definition of sport is way too vague and golf shouldn't be one. To me, a sport would have someone trying to stop you from getting that ball in the hole.

Tell that to Michael Jordan. He'll laugh in your face.

An average guy can walk into a bowling alley and be a mediocre bowler in about an hour. Try that on a golf course. The fact that you think track and field isn't sport pretty much makes your definition of the word irrelevant by anyone's standard.

Well, they do call it the olympic games, not the olympic sports for a reason I figure...

Ok you are right. Let me rephrase what i meant. Golf is not a physically demanding sport like others IMO. It is a precision sport.

Yup, it has caused the yuppie butthurt to flow.

Yup, for some reason you tell someone what they love is not a sport and they bitch like an upset little woman. You can even agree that it isn't easy, but they still can't hold back the whine...

I know a ton of 160-180 bowlers that also just never get any better than mediocre, doing it for years...

There is. The guy that designed the course.

Not buying that one, sorry. If they didn't want you to make it in the hole they could make the green 2 feet wide in the middle of a lake at 400 yards that you have to get to on a boat.

Incorrect.

If you're good at golf, you are a good athlete.

Golfing is not like bowling. In order to be a GOOD golfer...you HAVE to be athletic.

This isn't debatable.

ok but, being a casual league bowler with a 185 average...

you're right

that's totally average in terms of bowling

but to the average joe who bowls twice a year...when you tell them you have a 185 average they think you're god

I went from not having any idea on how to bowl to learning how to throw a hook, to learning how to throw a hook correctly...to learning where to stand to pick up spares to learning how to adjust

in about a week

bowling is a skill
golf is a sport

and I know this because the kid's family who owns the bowling alley...he was one of the kids in high school P.E. who would shoot layups like he was a ****ing reerun...most uncoordinated kid of all time

he's a 230 bowler...amazing...shoots 5-6 300s every league

there is no such thing as a scratch golfer who isn't coordinated or athletic...

this is honestly not a debate; anyone who thinks a scratch golfer isn't an athlete is wrong and is ignorant