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penbrook 04-20-2013 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9608938)
Guys the deal is done. Move on
That article was just posted about an hour ago btw.

Hammock Parties 04-20-2013 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9608938)
Guys the deal is done. Move on
Oh, I've moved on.

Strike two.

O.city 04-20-2013 11:24 PM
Before a game is even played?


Tough crowd

O.city 04-20-2013 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9608941)
That article was just posted about an hour ago btw.
Dorsey said that yesterday

Hammock Parties 04-20-2013 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9608945)
Before a game is even played?


Tough crowd
I can't think of a better way to neuter an already questionable passing attack than with a noodle-armed checkdown artist and a turnstile rookie LT.

It's a good thing the NFL isn't a passing league or anything.

O.city 04-20-2013 11:33 PM
Everyone in the media thinks the rookie lt will be an upgrade. Only on cp is he gonna suck.


For it to be a success, he needs to be elite day one

Saccopoo 04-20-2013 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9608938)
Guys the deal is done. Move on
And it could be that they let Albert talk to the Dolphins so he and his agent can get a realistic picture of what another team would offer at the high end of the pay scale - which the Dolphins would be for a guy like Albert.

I'm not moving on until the fat lady sings, and that's going to be draft day.

Saccopoo 04-20-2013 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9608957)
Everyone in the media thinks the rookie lt will be an upgrade. Only on cp is he gonna suck.


For it to be a success, he needs to be elite day one
The media is reeruned. And neither Joeckel or Fisher are elite level prospects for the position.

It took a real elite level guy like Okung two years to get it all together. It took Albert three.

Neither of these guys are going to hit the ground running and will require a pretty steep learning curve adjusting to the NFL, especially on the left side.

penbrook 04-20-2013 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9608938)
Guys the deal is done. Move on
So your trusting a guy named Mike Jurecki. The same guy who said he was 95% sure Reid was gonna be the next head coach of the Cardinals. Espn picked up on that and got embarassed.

People are picking up on this guys report today and running with it the same thing Espn did.

O.city 04-20-2013 11:38 PM
No, I'm trusting TBGs source who's got everything pretty spot on up to this point.

Hammock Parties 04-20-2013 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9608969)
No, I'm trusting TBGs source who's got everything pretty spot on up to this point.
Wrong.

penbrook 04-20-2013 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9608970)
Wrong.
He hasnt gotten anything wrong yet I think.

O.city 04-20-2013 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9608970)
Wrong.
Ok?

O.city 04-20-2013 11:42 PM
Guess I missed the stuff he got wrong

Hammock Parties 04-20-2013 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9608972)
He hasnt gotten anything wrong yet I think.
Swore up and down for weeks that Pioli was coming back.

penbrook 04-20-2013 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9608978)
Swore up and down for weeks that ***** was coming back.
Oh really now... His source must of been a Pioli guy.

O.city 04-20-2013 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9608978)
Swore up and down for weeks that ***** was coming back.
As did every media source?

penbrook 04-20-2013 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9608980)
As did every media source?
Ok every media source is swearing were taking Joeckel?

O.city 04-20-2013 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9608982)
Ok every media source is swearing were taking Joeckel?
I'd say we probably are so they're probably right

penbrook 04-20-2013 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9608983)
I'd say we probably are so they're probably right
Well im not saying we are.

O.city 04-20-2013 11:51 PM
Meh I don't really like this move but it's hard to get too upset about it. When they start losing because of it, if the do, then I'll get upset I guess.

But I'm just gonna sit back and let it play out

Titty Meat 04-20-2013 11:52 PM
I want a ****ing QB

Bowser 04-20-2013 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9608989)
I want a ****ing QB
Can't be quoted enough

penbrook 04-20-2013 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9608989)
I want a ****ing QB
Im with you.

Im riding Geno all the way up to draft day..

O.city 04-20-2013 11:55 PM
I think they'll draft one prob not in round 1 though

penbrook 04-20-2013 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9608992)
I think they'll draft one prob not in round 1 though
You can be surprised by Reid. He loves to surprise people.

Sorter 04-21-2013 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9608991)
Im with you.

Im riding Geno all the way up to draft day..
http://themetapicture.com/media/funn...me-cartoon.jpg

Dayze 04-21-2013 05:58 AM
No homo

milkman 04-21-2013 06:32 AM
Here's my new plan.

Let's draft Joekel or Fisher round one, Barret Jones in round two.

Follow those picks up with guys like Alvin Bailey, JC Tretter, Jeff Baca, Brian Winters, etc.

Just use every pick in this draft to take O-Line.

Then maybe, next year, and the 3 or 4 years after, we can actually focus on QB and playmaker positions that actually ****ing matter.

patteeu 04-21-2013 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9608730)
WTF is this? Take A Shit On SNR Day?

I received no memo.
You weren't invited to the celebratory cake and punch gathering either.

HemiEd 04-21-2013 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9608846)
The Dolphins have been to, and won, the Super Bowl, a lot more than the ****ing Kansas City Chiefs.
They have had a 39 year SB win drought, and a 28 year drought since they were even in one.

Not all that much better than the Chiefs.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-21-2013 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9609119)
Here's my new plan.

Let's draft Joekel or Fisher round one, Barret Jones in round two.

Follow those picks up with guys like Alvin Bailey, JC Tretter, Jeff Baca, Brian Winters, etc.

Just use every pick in this draft to take O-Line.

Then maybe, next year, and the 3 or 4 years after, we can actually focus on QB and playmaker positions that actually ****ing matter.
They'll still mock us OL. You can never have too much depth, what if the starter's go down!!!!!!!!! :banghead:

Pasta Little Brioni 04-21-2013 08:08 AM
So, we've resulted to sucking off the Miami Dolphins who haven't been relevant in several decades? JFC

caligula 04-21-2013 08:46 AM
wilson will be there in the 3rd, he'll be the 7-8th QB off the board...would be a huge waste of a 2nd round pick

smith
manuel
barkley
nassib
bray
glennon
.
.
.
.
dysert/wilson

patteeu 04-21-2013 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by caligula (Post 9609334)
wilson will be there in the 3rd, he'll be the 7-8th QB off the board...would be a huge waste of a 2nd round pick

smith
manuel
barkley
nassib
bray
glennon
.
.
.
.
dysert/wilson
What do your dots represent?

caligula 04-21-2013 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9609354)
What do your dots represent?
dots

DeezNutz 04-21-2013 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9609354)
What do your dots represent?
Hierarchy of QB talent.

patteeu 04-21-2013 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by caligula (Post 9609356)
dots
Interesting. Why 4?

Marcellus 04-21-2013 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9608742)
WRWRWRWRWRWRWRWRWR
We need a WR worse than ILB?

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-21-2013 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9609119)
Here's my new plan.

Let's draft Joekel or Fisher round one, Barret Jones in round two.

Follow those picks up with guys like Alvin Bailey, JC Tretter, Jeff Baca, Brian Winters, etc.

Just use every pick in this draft to take O-Line.

Then maybe, next year, and the 3 or 4 years after, we can actually focus on QB and playmaker positions that actually ****ing matter.
I've advocated this before; the Ultimate True Fan draft. Nothing but fatties all day long. Get it out of our systems so we can get on with being legit.
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patteeu 04-21-2013 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9609428)
I've advocated this before; the Ultimate True Fan draft. Nothing but fatties all day long. Get it out of our systems so we can get on with being legit.
Posted via Mobile Device
Can someone explain to me how "true fan" went from meaning season ticket holder to someone who wants to draft offensive linemen?

Hammock Parties 04-21-2013 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9609369)
We need a WR worse than ILB?
Absolutely. We can win a championship with some average FA ILB. I still think we need to upgrade our WR corps.

A good defense is going to roll coverage to Bowe and make life very hard for Alex Smith with these WRs.

Chiefshrink 04-21-2013 11:53 AM
Here are my QB's in order of preference if we get our 2nd back and if we do it will probably be the 54th and it's likely my first 2 choices will be gone by then BUT just in case here they are:

1. Nassib
2a. Manuel
2b. Wilson
3. Glennon

No Bray for me for obvious reasons.

BigRedChief 04-21-2013 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9608725)
Here was the 2013 ChiefsPlanet Mock all the way up to the Dolphins 2(b) pick (which I'm assuming we're getting for Albert):



Now, again, let's stop with the SNR fantasy land: WE ARE DRAFTING JOECKEL OR FISHER WITH THE 1.1 PICK.

Accepting that, who do you take? Here's the draft.

The top remaining talent at this point, in my humble opinion:

QB Tyler Wilson, Arkansas
QB Tyler Bray, Tennessee
RB Giovani Bernard, North Carolina
WR Aaron Dobson, Marshall
WR Da'Rick Rogers, Tennessee Tech
OT Kyle Long, Oregon
OT Menelik Watson, Florida State
OT Terron Armstead, Arkansas-Pine Bluff
OG Justin Pugh, Syracuse
OG/C Barrett Jones, Alabama
OLB Cornellius "Tank" Carradine, Florida State
OLB Corey Lemonier, Auburn
OLB/ILB Sio Moore, Connecticut
ILB Kevin Minter, LSU
ILB Jon Bostic, Florida
S Bacarri Rambo, Georgia

To me, Menelik Watson, Giovani Bernard, Cornellius Carradine, Kevin Minter, Justin Pugh, and Barratt Jones are the can't miss guys there.

My preference would be Carradine or Minter. Minter is the better player, Carradine's position is far more important. Barratt Jones would also make a ton of sense.

Given that we just dropped a 1.1 on Joeckel, Watson and Pugh make little sense. Plus, they're going in the 1st anyway.
JFC, That mock in the OP is one of the more shitty ones that I've seen.:harumph:

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-21-2013 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9609803)
Can someone explain to me how "true fan" went from meaning season ticket holder to someone who wants to draft offensive linemen?
Use search function for "Do you suffer from TFS". Your question shall be answered.
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Pasta Little Brioni 04-21-2013 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9610309)
Use search function for "Do you suffer from TFS". Your question shall be answered.
Posted via Mobile Device
patt has a "Lil Chiefy" in him

patteeu 04-21-2013 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9610325)
patt has a "Lil Chiefy" in him
I wish I knew what this meant. I bet it was hilarious.

RealSNR 04-21-2013 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9610347)
I wish I knew what this meant. I bet it was hilarious.
It is what you think it means.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-21-2013 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9610325)
patt has a "Lil Chiefy" in him
LMAO
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Setsuna 04-21-2013 02:28 PM
I chose Bray.

Predarat 04-21-2013 02:45 PM
I just followed @ChiefsPlanet on twitter yeahhh!

Simply Red 04-21-2013 02:59 PM
Absurd to take Tyler Bray, he's awful under pressure.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-21-2013 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9610774)
Absurd to take Tyler Bray, he's awful under pressure.
I'll take Bray or Nassib as low-level projects over Daniel eight days a week.
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Sorter 04-21-2013 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9612728)
I'll take Bray or Nassib as low-level projects over Daniel eight days a week.
Posted via Mobile Device
I'd rather have Daniel over Bray.

Simply Red 04-21-2013 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9612728)
I'll take Bray or Nassib as low-level projects over Daniel eight days a week.
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Normally I don't have a strong opinion on all of these guys - it just so happens I watched Bray play a lot - He's basically Matt Cassel w/ a little more heat behind his passes. He completely loses his mind upon any sort of pressure.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-21-2013 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9612876)
I'd rather have Daniel over Bray.
You get your wish?
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penbrook 04-21-2013 09:10 PM
Id rather have Geno over Daniel.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-21-2013 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 9612896)
Normally I don't have a strong opinion on all of these guys - it just so happens I watched Bray play a lot - He's basically Matt Cassel w/ a little more heat behind his passes. He completely loses his mind upon any sort of pressure.
I dont care either way. Geno is the best developmental prospect for QB in this draft, and were holding the number one pick. Two plus two equals "jell-o" in Chiefs Land though.
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Sorter 04-21-2013 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9612973)
Id rather have Geno over Daniel.
Really? I had no idea! Please, tell us more!

penbrook 04-21-2013 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9612975)
I dont care either way. Geno is the best developmental prospect for QB in this draft, and were holding the number one pick. Two plus two equals "jell-o" in Chiefs Land though.
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If Albert stays Geno is the pick.

Saccopoo 04-21-2013 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9609428)
I've advocated this before; the Ultimate True Fan draft. Nothing but fatties all day long. Get it out of our systems so we can get on with being legit.
Posted via Mobile Device
That's great.

People around here were shitting bricks with the thought of the Chiefs drafting a real elite level offensive tackle in Okung over a ****ing safety, but we've got a chance to draft the best quarterback in the entire draft and we're now okay with drafting a marginal talent at the OT position in Joeckel or Fisher?

You ****ing people are ****ing reeruned.

penbrook 04-21-2013 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9613001)
That's great.

People around here were shitting bricks with the thought of the Chiefs drafting a real elite level offensive tackle in Okung over a ****ing safety, but we've got a chance to draft the best quarterback in the entire draft and we're now okay with drafting a marginal talent at the OT position in Joeckel or Fisher?

You ****ing people are ****ing reeruned.
Luckily Im one of a select few who arent in that category.

DJ's left nut 04-21-2013 09:42 PM
19 people still want Tyler Wilson?

Have any of you actually done any homework on that guy? He is truly, truly terrible. His best hope to make a living playing football is to never actually play football. He can make a decent career for himself holding a clipboard on the basis of Petrino's gimmick offense, but the moment he's actually asked to play NFL football, he'll get exposed and drummed out.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-21-2013 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9613001)
That's great.

People around here were shitting bricks with the thought of the Chiefs drafting a real elite level offensive tackle in Okung over a ****ing safety, but we've got a chance to draft the best quarterback in the entire draft and we're now okay with drafting a marginal talent at the OT position in Joeckel or Fisher?

You ****ing people are ****ing reeruned.
Sarcasm meter much?
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Simply Red 04-21-2013 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9612975)
I dont care either way. Geno is the best developmental prospect for QB in this draft, and were holding the number one pick. Two plus two equals "jell-o" in Chiefs Land though.
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Yeah - I agree.

Simply Red 04-21-2013 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9612982)
Really? I had no idea! Please, tell us more!
ROFL

Hammock Parties 04-21-2013 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9613001)
That's great.

People around here were shitting bricks with the thought of the Chiefs drafting a real elite level offensive tackle in Okung over a ****ing safety, but we've got a chance to draft the best quarterback in the entire draft and we're now okay with drafting a marginal talent at the OT position in Joeckel or Fisher?

You ****ing people are ****ing reeruned.
It's just pure, blatant homerism. Everyone wants to deep throat everything and anything Dorsey and Reid do.

That's all it is.

Simply Red 04-21-2013 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9613095)
It's just pure, blatant homerism. Everyone wants to deep throat everything and anything Dorsey and Reid do.

That's all it is.
We're still screwed as KC fans, let's face it.

Mother****erJones 04-21-2013 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9613095)
It's just pure, blatant homerism. Everyone wants to deep throat everything and anything Dorsey and Reid do.

That's all it is.
I'm not like that. I'm waiting and seeing. I can't judge before they've played games. As much as I hate the compensation for Smith, he's the best they could do.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-21-2013 10:02 PM
It's amazing how inept the Chiefs are.
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Mother****erJones 04-21-2013 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9613115)
It's amazing how inept the Chiefs are.
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Still too early say that. We haven't even had the draft yet. All we have to this point is Free Agency and some "reports" on the draft.

penbrook 04-21-2013 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9613115)
It's amazing how inept the Chiefs are.
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Not too fast. I still believe Dorsey will do the right thing and draft Geno!!

BossChief 04-21-2013 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9613095)
It's just pure, blatant homerism. Everyone wants to deep throat everything and anything Dorsey and Reid do.

That's all it is.
No.

It's straight up denial.

If ***** was the guy making these calls, EVERYONE on CP would hate them.

Alex Smith for 2 second rounders, including the second pick in this years second round. Haha Everyone would be calling the Smith signing another Routt signing. The only difference in perception is the fact that everyone wants to desperately give Dorsey the benefit of the doubt at this point.

Direckshun 04-21-2013 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9613123)
Not too fast. I still believe Dorsey will do the right thing and draft Geno!!
Shut the **** up, Donnie.

Mother****erJones 04-21-2013 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 9613135)
Shut the **** up, Donnie.
Donnie?

mcaj22 04-21-2013 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9613124)
No.

It's straight up denial.

If ***** was the guy making these calls, EVERYONE on CP would hate them.

Alex Smith for 2 second rounders, including the second pick in this years second round. Haha Everyone would be calling the Smith signing another Routt signing. The only difference in perception is the fact that everyone wants to desperately give Dorsey the benefit of the doubt at this point.
people had ten inch wieners around here when Routt was signed, there was a ton of Routt homers/lovers on here and then they had to eat crow when that turd was cut, he was getting beat like the drum and people were still defending him that it wasnt his fault.

i dont think id ever compare Smith to Routt, Routt was bad, anyone with a brain could figure that out, but i guess comparing the value of QB to CB, Alex Smith is on the low end at his more premium demanded position, which is like Routt being on the low end of bad CB play.

But I dont know that's as low as a comparison as you can make, because Routt was/is really bad. I'd like to think Alex Smith will/can have 1 good game in every 3 games. Essentially he can beat the Buffalo Bills but he will lose to the Denver Broncos by 30. He will beat the Cleveland Browns but lose to the Colts by 40.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-21-2013 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9613122)
Still too early say that. We haven't even had the draft yet. All we have to this point is Free Agency and some "reports" on the draft.
We need to buck the common expectation big time.
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O.city 04-21-2013 10:11 PM
At least Reid has a track record of success I guess

Mother****erJones 04-21-2013 10:51 PM
I'm a Tyler Bray fan, I know that's not popular. Would like to take him at 3a or b.


Tyler Bray - QB - Player
The Steelers reportedly believe Tennessee's Tyler Bray is the most talented quarterback in the 2013 draft.
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette allows "a lot of NFL teams" feel this way about Bray, but the Steelers could be eyeballing the big-armed thrower on the draft's third day. Most NFL coaches say the underclassman "needs to sit and learn for several years," but could grow into "a top-tier quarterback very similar to Joe Flacco." We expect Bray to be a second-day pick due strictly to his arm talent.
Related: Steelers

penbrook 04-21-2013 10:57 PM
Hell people say Nassib is the best qb, and some same Landry Jones, and some say Matt Barkley. But very little say Geno is the best.


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