The benchmarks for that conditional pick are said to be high.

More than likely its going to be a 3.

Yeah, if we hit those benchmarks, I'll gladly be fine with giving up that pick.

Rookies Mini Camp is April 30- May 2.

Nail in the coffin 3 months in?

Lol.

I realize we were snakebit by Pioli and co, but **** me.

This place is getting crazy.

Also, I said you're ****ing dumb. You're ****ing clueless how negotiating through the media works. When your girlfriend says its not you, that means that she's taking it in the ass from another dude.

SaveOurChiefs ‏@SaveOurChiefs 9m
Per Jason Cole (Yahoo Sports):

Expect the Chiefs to end up trading Branden Albert for a second-round pick in 2014.

He would not be on the bench. He will be the starting LT and Fisher will be the starting RT.

Trading him for a 2nd next year, when a 2nd this year was on the table does seem to probably be a **** up on Dorsey's part.

ROFL hey what have you heard about Bray? Anything?

I don't get this whole SOC shit now. Thought it was suppose tone a movement not a source provider.

W/E.

I'd probably rather that 2 in a much better draft class next year.

If we can trade Albert for next years 2, I'd do it.

Immediately try to sign Tyson Clabo to play right tackle and roll with it.

Dorsey was asking for more than a 2nd because he knows how talented Albert is.

If he does get traded it will be for more than a 2nd.

Nothing. Plan on emailing this guy this week.

You just might be the new Como

At this point, we have no idea about next years class. It would have been nice to have that second this year as that was the strength in this class.

If Albert does get traded, Stephenson goes to RT and Fisher to LT.

Laugh now. After giving up 2 picks one of which being #34 overall for Average Smith, getting shafted by MIA before and during the draft, and then taking this draft into account...he's not doing well in my book and a lot of other peoples.

Giving up Albert for a pick next year instead of using him this year then trying to get something for him would be asinine.

GM's and Coaches alike are on short leashes today, whether you want to admit it or not

@TheFilmRoom: The holdup in Albert deal was reportedly a difference in 2nd round compensation...now the Chiefs will deal Albert for an unknown 2nd...hmmm

Q bitch

So Dorsey wouldn't accept a second this year but he'll take one next year?

How is that not stupid?

Hes not. Its all speculation right now.

Man that is what I said all along. I'd rather it be next year.

Because next years draft will be better hopefully. Stockpile picks next year.

I'd ask for more than a 2nd next year. 2nd and 4th maybe.

If not, I'd just keep him, play him at LT and see how it goes.

I'm laughing because you're an irrational moron. Dorsey and Reid are here for at least the duration of their contracts.

Forgive me for wanting to see actual games before I make ridiculous claims like nail in the coffin.

The intention has been to get compensation for Albert. Why are you going to tag him again at a 20% increase? Take the 2 now and be rid of a guy who doesn't want to be here.

No Gm ever was put on a short leash 3 months into the job.

Thats what Dorsey did this year. He wanted more than a 2nd.

correct

a pick this year is worth more than one next year

also, if we trade him this year, the team gets his performance immediately while we have to wait to capitalize on the pick ("I will gladly pay you tuesday...")

This.

It makes no sense to trade him at this point to make another team better while we gain nothing except an unknown draft pick next year.

This is just my speculation but I think after Miami traded the first 2, that they didn't offer the 2nd one again.

Pfft. Scott Pioli got 4 ****ing years. You think Dorsey and Reid are going to get less than that? They'll be here for a long, long time.

Next years class appears to be top heavy, so it would be great to have an additional pick if we needed to trade up for someone. But I don't know anything at this point about the 2nd rounders so I won't get into that.

But if the guy doesn't want to be here, we should have just accepted the 54th pick and went on about our business.

nonsense

this year's second had a ton of talent

and we're supposedly in win now mode, hence the smith trade...so denying him a quality starter this year is ridiculous

we lost value when Miami called our bluff

You know what would be nice?

A 2 next year and a player now.

The only other logical thing would be take the comp 3 and let him walk after this year. Franchising him would be dumb.

Knowing they were probably going to take Fisher at 1, they might have gotten a bit greedy in what they wanted for Albert.

Yeah, no way you franchise him again. Either let him walk or sign him to a deal to play wherever. If he sets the world a blaze at LT this year and Fisher is great at RT, just re up Albert and move on I guess.

Dolphins need Albert. They have to give up more to get him.

Get a 2nd + 3rd or 4th from Miami, then package our 1st, both 2nds and that 3rd/4th from Miami to draft Teddy Bridgewater.

PROFIT

I don't see them moving up for a Qb next year, unless Alex Smith plays Cassel bad, which won't happen.


Dolphins don't need Albert. If they needed him, they would have already done the deal. I'd say it would likely be the Lions if a deal is doen.

I'm a moron? Yeah Coaches or GM's never get fired after one year? Try again douche bag.

I didn't say it would be the final nail, just saying it would be another one based off his start.

I also never said to tag him again, but trading him now for a pick next year would be stupid. Why make another team better this year and meanwhile we take all the risk based on a pick next year. If they didn't have the contingency plan that he may have to play out his tag, then that's another knock on them. Let him play it out and either negotiate in earnest or let him walk for the comp pick.

I also think it's funny that there is this perceived notion that Albert doesn't want to be here. Sure he wants more and too much money, but so does half the league I'm sure. To my knowledge he hasn't said he doesn't want to be here and it's just speculation on the part of other irrational morons.

I don't get that Albert doesn't want to be HERE.
Wherever he ends up playing he wants to make a certain amount of money to play the LT position.

A coach and Gm isn't getting fired after 1 year, unless we go winless.

I don't see the Chiefs ever giving Albert a long term deal like what he feels he's worth.

I think that was the real hang up for Miami and the pick. If they could have gotten Albert at 7.5 they would have been more willing to part with the 2 at the end.

But that's just my speculation.

Which isn't in the plans here, therefor, he doesn't want to be here.

they obviously don't need him

and they aren't going to offer more than they did this year, if they offer anything at all which i doubt

and we aren't trading 5 picks for Bridgewater

otherwise, solid post

I really don't care how the Chiefs get a 2nd, whether that could have been done for the 2013 draft or if it can be done in the 2014 draft. As long as it gets done, it's a good deal.

And honestly, if Miami was only offering a #54, then 2014 is the better way to go. It's highly unlikely that any teams KC wants to trade with are going to do worse than a #54 pick in the 2014 draft. And quite possible the Chiefs could end up with a pick in the mid 30's.

Honestly, I think we've seen that no one will give Albert the deal he wants/wanted or feels he's "worth". IF this doesn't show him that, nothing will.


I'd say if we could get him for 7 per etc, he'd be a Chief. 4 y 30 mil or something similar.

Thanks for proving my point, moron.

There is ZERO % chance Clark Hunt is turning this organization over again in one year.

Reid always takes care of his players.

If Albert just plays where they ask him too he will see a long term deal.

Sure, but the only problem is we play an entire year of football without any compensation for Albert if he's traded now.

Or, just keep him and squeeze a year out of him. He's probably going to play balls out as he wants a contract from someone.

Dolphins don't need Albert? They really feel comfortable starting Jonathan Martin at LT?

Ok lulz. Good luck with that Jeff Ireland.

If WE could keep Albert at 7.5 then no need to trade him.

Obviously they do. They didn't trade for Albert, so I'm not sure what else says otherwise at this point.

That they have and are still trying to get Albert to play LT speaks volumes

Just give Albert the 8 Mil. We also save about 2 mil also in cap space.

They're still trying to trade for Albert? Last I heard, Ireland woudln't answer Dorsey's calls.

The fact taht the Phins are about to sign Winston speaks volumes for what they think of Albert.

How are they still trying to trade him. Trade talks fell through. If any other team wanted a LT they could of gotten one in the draft.

Or how they feel about the compensation they would need to give up.

They play two different positions. Speaks volumes on that they feel comfortable with Martin.

Yeah, no shit they play different positions.

Let them have Winston. We know how this story ends.

ROFL if Winston ends up being their LT

If someone is willing to give up a 2nd for next year and pay Albert at this point, do it.

However, I think they tagged him intending to trade him to someone for picks in this draft, got burned and are now gonna play ihm and let it play out from there.

He'll probably walk next year, but his replacement is ready to go, and a replacement at RT in Stephenson is ready to roll as well.

It's not about how he plays necessarily. If there's a QB for the future you really want then go get him and they would. I also think Bray's gona be a good one

With Miami coming in second in the division, but missing the playoffs, and Jeff Ireland getting the axe?

I read something Friday on Twitter about how they think Martin is better suited on the left side and want to sign a RT.


Could be shit too though.

If Smith plays up to standards they like, they aren't moving up for a QB. It woudl be a stupid move.


If that happens, only way we get a QB is in a Rogers situation.

If Smith played badly enough that we would need a new QB, we would probably already be in position to draft one.

Jon Martin would be the LT. He filled in for a few games at the end of last season and did okay.

I'd view it as no different than the Chiefs rolling with Stephenson for a year to see how it goes. Maybe it works and maybe it doesn't.

Get the 2nd for him and just move the **** on. Fisher is going to be a better LT than him.

We upgraded. Let's just get this over with and get rollin.

Not really. Smith isn't the most durable QB. That's fact. The Packers took Rodgers, although he fell to them. I think they would do it. Just my opinion though.

A guy can dream tho

We upgraded before the rookie has even played a single snap. Whoops

Sure did.

If he gets hurt, obviously he didn't play up to standards they had hoped.


And this is the most incoherent statement i've read today. What are you trying to say.

I guess he better be an instant upgrade, a large noticable one at that, otherwise it was a huge waste.

LOL! I never said they were. I suppose a figure of speech is beyond your comprehension as well.

I think in the least Reid will be here for a good while good or bad. Dorsey most likely, but if you ask me and others Reid clearly had his fingers/influence in this draft where Dorsey was supposed to be the man.

It isn't inconceivable that they can't be removed or fired though. You either love this FO or were just looking for a reason to be a douche. I'm fine with either..doesn't make a shit to me.