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Cephalic Trauma 05-16-2013 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Beans (Post 9686778)
Gracias. Something about cliche avatars should be included as well...

You're welcome to add to the growing list:thumb:.

El Jefe 05-16-2013 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Beans (Post 9686768)
Only if you stop listening to garbage music, then maybe.

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9686771)
He's firmly in their target market. Middle-aged man with the intellect of an adolescent.

Jewish Rabbi, pay attention here, this is another form of multi-tasking. To answer Red beans, I don't listen to rap, but I found the google search of lyrics to be useful enough at th time. Secondly to Vagina Trauma, middle aged, LMAO good one kid!

Red Beans 05-16-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9686785)
To answer Red beans, I don't listen to rap, but I found the google search of lyrics to be useful enough at th time.

So you quote some music you're not a fan of in an attempt to make a point? Do you grasp the irony there?

Jewish Rabbi 05-16-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9686779)
Nope, actually we are having a banner year, but thanks for your concern! There's this sweet technique out there, its called "multi-tasking", I can read your post in 15 seconds and respond in 10 and then I move on to something else. It's difficult at times to master, but don't worry pal you will get the hang of it.

So by your own timing standards, you've wasted at least 15 minutes of your 8 hour workday in this thread. Most businesses having banner years require people to work their ass off to keep up with demand.

El Jefe 05-16-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Beans (Post 9686793)
So you quote some music you're not a fan of in an attempt to make a point? Do you grasp the irony there?

Irony, grasp I do not young padawan.

Red Beans 05-16-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9686800)
Irony, grasp I do not young padawan.

I assumed that you wouldn't. :shake:

Jewish Rabbi 05-16-2013 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9686800)
Irony, grasp I do not young padawan.

ROFL My god, you're reeruned.

El Jefe 05-16-2013 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 9686798)
So by your own timing standards, you've wasted at least 15 minutes of your 8 hour workday in this thread. Most businesses having banner years require people to work their ass off to keep up with demand.

Lol.

Cephalic Trauma 05-16-2013 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9686785)
Jewish Rabbi, pay attention here, this is another form of multi-tasking. To answer Red beans, I don't listen to rap, but I found the google search of lyrics to be useful enough at th time. Secondly to Vagina Trauma, middle aged, LMAO good one kid!

Right. Just an adolescent intellect, then.

aturnis 05-16-2013 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Trivers (Post 9686715)
Spent 2 years building a modern, contemporary house. 2 GCs, 4 concrete subs, 2 electrical subs later, it is 99% done. Never again.

If you want a variation of a traditional house, build. Most GCs can handle it. Otherwise, buy and remodel.

Either way, you are screwed as most subs do average work, don't show up, and yet always want to be paid ASAP.

Build my own. Vertical Icf's for the foundation, Sip panels for the framing and roof.

Red Beans 05-16-2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 9686803)
ROFL My god, you're reeruned.

I just lulzed after reading that one. I lulzed hard.

Jewish Rabbi 05-16-2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9686810)
Build my own. Vertical Icf's for the foundation, Sip panels for the framing and roof.

Please stay on topic.

DaneMcCloud 05-16-2013 11:30 AM

I own a "Custom Home". It's a one-off that was built in 1994. My wife's dream was to own a custom home, so that's what we purchased in 2003. I only have one word to describe a "Custom Home":

Nightmare.

Now, you are at a major advantage because your family would be participating in the construction of your home, so it's less likely that you'll encounter "weirdness" in the home design and decisions. But we've had whoppers here, from a single 75 gallon hot water tank on the second floor that feeds a floor above and a floor below (which generally means the bathroom faucet, tubs and showers have to be on a minimum of 2 minutes before warm water is feed through the pipes) to having 10 electrical outlets and eighteen 6" 75 watt can lights on a single 15 amp circuit to literally dozens more bad examples.

I could go on and on about all of the repairs and changes I've needed to make to this home for the past 10 years (and in excess of $200k) but I'm sure you get the point. While I absolutely love my home, there have been days when I wished it were not a single, one-off, custom home because it's likely to have been better designed.

Whichever way you go, best of luck!

El Jefe 05-16-2013 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DoucheMcCloud (Post 9686815)
I own a "Custom Home". It's a one-off that was built in 1994. My wife's dream was to own a custom home, so that's what we purchased in 2003. I only have one word to describe a "Custom Home":

Nightmare.

Now, you are at a major advantage because your family would be participating in the construction of your home, so it's less likely that you'll encounter "weirdness" in the home design and decisions. But we've had whoppers here, from a single 75 gallon hot water tank on the second floor that feeds a floor above and a floor below (which generally means the bathroom faucet, tubs and showers have to be on a minimum of 2 minutes before warm water is feed through the pipes) to having 10 electrical outlets and eighteen 6" 75 watt can lights on a single 15 amp circuit.

I could go on and on about all of the repairs and changes I've needed to make to this home for the past 10 years (and in excess of $200k) but I'm sure you get the point. While I absolutely love my home, there have been days when I wished it were not a single, one-off, custom home because it's likely to have been better designed.

Whichever way you go, best of luck!


Seeing as how you have the money to combat a problematic home, I think this speaks volumes to what I could potentially encounter should I enter into this type of venture. Thanks man!

Hootie 05-16-2013 12:49 PM

omg

shut

UP

Pablo 05-16-2013 12:54 PM

AFEJT.

cookster50 05-16-2013 12:59 PM

I don't know what Fernt is, but I went with that choice.

Hootie 05-16-2013 01:02 PM

if anyone wants a good laugh, go look at the OP's thread history

it's hysterical

Cephalic Trauma 05-16-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 9687008)
if anyone wants a good laugh, go look at the OP's thread history

it's hysterical

Hootie, though you have a creepy affinity for my privates, there's still hope for you yet.

:thumb:Hysterical indeed.

Jewish Rabbi 05-16-2013 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 9687008)
if anyone wants a good laugh, go look at the OP's thread history

it's hysterical

ROFL at him making a thread when his sister caught him cranking down.

el borracho 05-16-2013 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9686730)
I have seen for a cookie cutter home the cost per square foot being in the $104 up to $140 per square foot. I have got a couple ideas on a custom build that could get up to $200 per square foot.

So houses sell for as low as $104/ft and you are considering building at $200/ft? Doesn't sound like a good idea, especially when you factor in the realities of staying in the initial bid and budget. Even if your custom ideas are radically different and marketable, you are severely limiting your ability to sell the house.

Halfcan 05-16-2013 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DoucheMcCloud (Post 9686815)
I own a "Custom Home". It's a one-off that was built in 1994. My wife's dream was to own a custom home, so that's what we purchased in 2003. I only have one word to describe a "Custom Home":

Nightmare.

Now, you are at a major advantage because your family would be participating in the construction of your home, so it's less likely that you'll encounter "weirdness" in the home design and decisions. But we've had whoppers here, from a single 75 gallon hot water tank on the second floor that feeds a floor above and a floor below (which generally means the bathroom faucet, tubs and showers have to be on a minimum of 2 minutes before warm water is feed through the pipes) to having 10 electrical outlets and eighteen 6" 75 watt can lights on a single 15 amp circuit to literally dozens more bad examples.

I could go on and on about all of the repairs and changes I've needed to make to this home for the past 10 years (and in excess of $200k) but I'm sure you get the point. While I absolutely love my home, there have been days when I wished it were not a single, one-off, custom home because it's likely to have been better designed.

Whichever way you go, best of luck!

200 k for extra outlets and a water heater? WTF did you not build at code? That is a ton of money just fixing mistakes-wow. Sorry to hear that bud. I like your name change btw way-lol very unique-lol :thumb:

Red Beans 05-16-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 9687008)
if anyone wants a good laugh, go look at the OP's thread history

it's hysterical

That shit is terrible. Just terrible. The thread about what to eat when sick at work? JFC, the answer would be two words...rat...poison.

DaneMcCloud 05-16-2013 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9687049)
200 k for extra outlets and a water heater? WTF did you not build at code? That is a ton of money just fixing mistakes-wow. Sorry to hear that bud. I like your name change btw way-lol very unique-lol :thumb:

We spent at least $200k to repair and change all kinds of things throughout the house. All five bathrooms had crummy, cheap tile that was installed directly over drywall, the kitchen was originally 6x9 (which is ridiculous in a 3,500 square foot home), the flat roof was bad, we've added over 50 lights, had to do a ton of plumbing and electrical repair (I added 30 circuits last year alone) and on and on and on.

A good portion that was spent was cosmetic but I'd "guess" that at least 35% (if not more, I'd have to check my records) were "fixes". It was a major drag but we're happy with the results.

And you can thank the mods for my new username. It took me a while to figure out what happened and how to log in! :D

DaneMcCloud 05-16-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 9687047)
So houses sell for as low as $104/ft and you are considering building at $200/ft? Doesn't sound like a good idea, especially when you factor in the realities of staying in the initial bid and budget. Even if your custom ideas are radically different and marketable, you are severely limiting your ability to sell the house.

I'm not a real estate agent and am not familiar with his area but I would think that a very nice home on two acres built at $200 a foot would be more desirable than a home built for $100 a foot to a future prospective buyer.

Halfcan 05-16-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by El Jefe (Post 9686817)
Seeing as how you have the money to combat a problematic home, I think this speaks volumes to what I could potentially encounter should I enter into this type of venture. Thanks man!

I have sold many many custom built homes over the years- and Never even heard of such a thing. Most custom homes have the main plans set and You pick the "options" to Customize it to your taste. Most builders would not put a single water heater in a mansion-lol It is great to have a "design" program and noodle around- but you are Much better off picking a design that has been built before.

Little things like having your kitchen on the oposite side of your garage- people dont think about groceries ect- they just want to brag "we designed it ourselves" Great- but when you try to resale it- you can bet potential buyers will notice all the flaws as Dane describes.

I have also seen people go buy acreage thinking they will build their "dream home" but negect things like a water source, sewer, building codes, land usuage, taxes, electric and gas service- building in a flood plain, building on marshland or sandy earth that can wreck havoc on your foundation. Also consider cliff views- it gets pricey blasting away bedrock.

Best of luck! Most subdivisions will offer custom homes built to suit- based on proven designs. You pick all colors, flooring, ect. Believe me, you will be tired of choices by the time you are done. Pick wisely and think about the future. I had a lady that loved the color pink and her husband just went along- the whole house-EVERYTHING inside and out was pink- even the tubs and sinks. They were divorced a year later and that house sat on the market until it was finally bank owned and gutted.

Good luck!! :thumb:

Halfcan 05-16-2013 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DoucheMcCloud (Post 9687063)
We spent at least $200k to repair and change all kinds of things throughout the house. All five bathrooms had crummy, cheap tile that was installed directly over drywall, the kitchen was originally 6x9 (which is ridiculous in a 3,500 square foot home), the flat roof was bad, we've added over 50 lights, had to do a ton of plumbing and electrical repair (I added 30 circuits last year alone) and on and on and on.

A good portion that was spent was cosmetic but I'd "guess" that at least 35% (if not more, I'd have to check my records) were "fixes". It was a major drag but we're happy with the results.

And you can thank the mods for my new username. It took me a while to figure out what happened and how to log in! :D

6x9 kitchen-ROFL Did you guys design it yourselves? Well at least the repairs you are talking about are things you can get money back out or have saved you money. Adding circuits so your house doesnt burn down could never be a bad thing-lol Chances are you are money ahead then if you sold it and bought another project. :thumb:

Are you trying to tell me the Mods would do something like that-LOL ROFL

el borracho 05-16-2013 01:48 PM

Typically, real estate prices are based on "comps"- comparable homes in the immediate area. If there is nothing comparable in the area, it usually devalues the home (even if the home itself is very nice). For example, even if you have a 5,000 square foot mansion with vaulted ceilings, custom cabinets and Italian marble throughout, that home will be devalued if the next largest homes in the neighborhood are only 2,500 square feet and have none of those features.

In short, if he wants to build something at $200 per square foot (good luck staying in budget!), he should build in a neighborhood where homes are comparable to his project and sell for at least $200 per square foot. Or he can live there forever or take it in the shorts whenever he sells.

DaneMcCloud 05-16-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9687089)
6x9 kitchen-ROFL Did you guys design it yourselves? Well at least the repairs you are talking about are things you can get money back out or have saved you money. Adding circuits so your house doesnt burn down could never be a bad thing-lol Chances are you are money ahead then if you sold it and bought another project. :thumb:

Are you trying to tell me the Mods would do something like that-LOL ROFL

The house was built in 1994 and we purchased in 2003. The kitchen is now much bigger (29 foot long) but that came with the expense of routing electrical and plumbing from the master bath a floor above and removing a load bearing wall and replacing it with massive glue-lam beams, concrete and steel. Hillside homes built in earthquake zones are built much differently than homes in the Midwest.

And the house was recently appraised at twice the purchase price, so we're all good. :thumb:

Halfcan 05-16-2013 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DoucheMcCloud (Post 9687178)
The house was built in 1994 and we purchased in 2003. The kitchen is now much bigger (29 foot long) but that came with the expense of routing electrical and plumbing from the master bath a floor above and removing a load bearing wall and replacing it with massive glue-lam beams, concrete and steel. Hillside homes built in earthquake zones are built much differently than homes in the Midwest.

And the house was recently appraised at twice the purchase price, so we're all good. :thumb:

29 foot kitchen- holy cow!! Sweet! Yep sounds like you made a great investment!! I know where I want to stop buy and have some beers- with a hillside view when I am out that way-LOL Sounds like a cool place!

Rain Man 05-16-2013 05:40 PM

I would love to design my own home. Building it would be a pain, though.

notorious 05-16-2013 05:53 PM

Use AIDS tree lumber.


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