Only a sentence fragment, even.

No more mutants?

Fox owns the right to "mutants" with the x-men franchise. There was a rumor they were going to refer to mutants as 'inhumans' in the marvel movieverse, but that's been squashed by kevin feige.

Yeah, they can't use 'no more mutants', but she's one of those characters whose powers are not only ambiguous, but they change wildly in power level, depending on who is writing. Sometimes her little hex blobs can just cause a water main to break or something, other times she has vast magical powers and can rewrite physical laws or empower magical artifacts. Usually there's some demon or another mixed up in things.

So who knows. They have a lot of leeway with her.

That's what I was thinking. It'll be interesting to see.

It also sucks they can't involve Magneto somehow.

I thought I'd read somewhere that the same actor was going to play Quicksilver in both Avengers 2 and X-Men: Days of Future Past, but according to IMDB, they're different actors.

That's a bummer. They could've subtlety tied the two franchises together there.

Yeah different actors different looks. I'm more a fan of the Avengers one from the concept art I've seen.

It's pissing me off.

I think the new X-Men movie will be good enough to keep Marvel's hands off the rights for 5 or 6 years.

The FF movie will flop and they can get those in 3 or 4. It's pushing the Infinity Gauntlet story we all know they want to make years off...

What would it cost Marvel to just buy the rights to the X-Men back? At this point it might be worth the cost to see a Secret Wars/Infinity Gauntlet movie-series.

I think it would be better to just say to FOX, "look, you let us use the intellectual property, you get X%. We're better than you and everybody knows it. Take the money without the expense or risk and hitch your wagon to the golden goose."

If I'm FOX I have a hard time turning that down, as long as the money is decent.

Most definitely.

I'm pissed at FOX for completely ****ing up the FF story with Doom, and even more pissed for ****ing up The Silver Surfer and Galactus story EVEN WORSE. Now with the super duper reboot, Johnny Storm is black. I mean, good ****ing lord. Get these characters out of the hands of these butchers. /nerd rage

iI'll be about 10 years before this occurs, FOX will attempt multiple reboots then lose a shit load of money due to the over saturation of the franchises the do own the rights to. The next one on the chopping block that will be an instant stinker is the Fantastic 4 reboot of course.

Push that minimum time back a bit - they just announced yet another Wolverine movie, and have mentioned one more, probably in the X-Men line. They're going to keep those going probably until Hugh Jackman is too physically old to play an immortal. Maybe longer.

Also, there's no way they'll ever make a Secret Wars movie, even if they had all the rights - the series is largely seen now to be a low-concept, bad-quality, toy-hawking money grab, which it was. I think the one they've got is already an Infinity Gauntlet series, just without the X-Men.

Also also, yes, the Fantastic Four reboot will be terrible.

Why are they rebooting FF? I am so sick of having to see origin stories.

Because it was atrocious.

And the Human Torch is now Captain America.

In the new one the HT is gonna be black and Susan, his sister, will be white. LOL.

Not only did they announce another Wolverine movie, they've long since announced the next new x-men movie (apocalypse) and they released a 2017 launch date a few days ago for the fantastic four sequel, meaning it's likely already in pre-production. And there's word (well, rumor) of a crossover film between the two in 2018. I don't think either of those franchises are going anywhere soon.

comic book geeks

They also have a project for 2018 titled
Xmen/Marvel
Hmmmmm

Yeah, and they announced another beyond Apocalypse. They haven't said specifics, but speculation is that it will be another X-Men film, or a spinoff like Gambit or Nightcrawler.

Hulk wrestling with the Hulkbuster armor looks awesome.

I'm pretty sure they are going to follow the story arc of Ultron taking over the Hulk's mind in AoU.

Where is there footage of the Hulk and Hulkbuster armor?

Recently released concept art...

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The X-Men and Spiderman series keep making a ton of dough for FOX and Sony. They wont be giving those up anytime soon.

Niiiiice.

I read that X-men/Marvel movie might be Cable and Deadpool

Which would be AWESOME

Got a problem with that?

Cable is my favorite X-Factor character bar none

This really isn't a big deal. People are adopted all the time, and the FF aren't genetically endowed with their powers. They received them from a cosmic storm.

I could care less if JS is historically white. As long as a story is well written that is all that should matter. With that being said, this franchise will always be a steaming pile of shit.

I don't think he was ever in X-Factor.

He was in most of X-Force and his own titles...

Here's the problem: Previously, black actors (Eartha Kitt, Michael Clarke Duncan, Samuel L. Jackson, Idris Elba) were hired because they were right for the character, and the fact that they were black was never addressed or mentioned in-story; they just happened to be so and it was no big deal. By race-flipping Jon Storm, and casting his sister as gleamingly white, the makers of Fantastic Four have to explain it in-story, which makes *it* the story. So it won't only be a bad movie, but a step back in superhero racial portrayals; comic books have enough of a problem with racial portrayals and can't afford that, but these are movie people making these choices, and they don't care so much about comic book problems.

This is stunt casting. This is hiring a black actor to play a traditionally white role to make the movie makers seem racially sensitive (especially to the more ethnically-diverse Millennials) and to get their movie talked about. This, plus hiring the Chronicle guy to do that kind of movie, plus basing it on the ridiculous "Ultimate" interpretation of the characters, plus it being so soon after the previous two movies, plus it being rushed through production, plus taking ten or twenty years off the characters' ages, plus hiring the youngest, mousiest looking nerd they could as Mr. Fantastic, and a thin, short dancer as the Thing, means this movie is going to su*******.

Suck, like Green Lantern suck. Really bad suck.

With great black characters out there like Black Panther and Luke Cage you don't have to invent a reason. Make a movie about great characters you're ignoring...

Luke Cage is in production; he's one of the four in the upcoming Netflix series.

Black Panther is a bit more problematic. For one thing, his name is Black Panther, which (although he wasn't intended this way) carries some political weight with it. He's also not American, wears a mask and black pajamas, and has no actual super-powers. It would have to be a movie about racism; there's not much of a way around it.

Personally, I'd put him, Daredevil and Moon Knight together in a three-buddy vigilante movie, set in Hell's Kitchen, in 1975 - but ideas like that are probably why I'm not in charge.

I don't see an issue with Black Panther.

He's not American but he's a king. That's boss.

He doesn't have actual super powers, but the heart-shaped herb basically makes him Captain America level, physically speaking. That's boss.

Black Panther, especially given his costume and fighting demeanor, is really more a reference to black cats. Black big cats are boss.

His costume is not much different than any other superhero. Deadpool probably has the coolest costume of any superhero and it's basically just a red and black version of BP's. That's pretty boss.

JIMP

Dude rules his nation AND has the money of Tony Stark AND sits on a valuable (imaginary) mineral only found there. Which also happens to be what Cap's shield and a number of other supes tech is made out of.

And he got to bone Storm.

I forgot about that.

They screw it up I'll be pissed...

Clamoring for Deadpool to be in a movie, you all know that Ryan Reynolds has been begging for that role for years right...wonder if he'll have the success with that one he had with Green Lantern.

As long as they keep Brian Posehn to do the writing.

Hell I'd like to see that!

He can clamor all he wants, but nobody is gonna bankroll another 100 million+ pic with him as a lead anytime soon.
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So quickly you forget.

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Studios can't be trusted with Deadpool. How do you take the merc with a mouth, cast it perfectly and then decide that Deadpool shouldn't have a mouth at all?

Couldn't be more true. Movie studios don't give a single steaming crap about comic book characters, except as tools with which to make their movie.

The new short film they are releasing that is going to show the real Mandarin has Kingsley's character from IM3 locked in the prison that Cage is being held in.

They better do Cage right. So much potential for a Bad Ass character.

True. But it seems as though Marvel studios has realized that trying to stay true to the story goes a long way with the most dedicated members of their fan base that drives every market outside of ticket sales, which is great for the die hards.

What an un ****ing believably horrible......**** it.

I am usually not this kind of fan boy, but the Marvel universe is so awesomely more vast and amazing than any that has ever been created.

These are kinda cool.
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Here are pictures from the set showing some of the new characters. I'll put them in spoiler tags, but I don't think there's anything here you won't see in a trailer.

That's because Marvel has a stock in keeping the characters true to the source material. Fox and Sony and whoever else aren't keeping an eye on the comic book storyline; they'll make whatever changes they want, no matter how simplistic or bizarre.

The Scarlett witch and Quicksilver look good for the XMen movie.

Between this and Godzilla those two will be in both the summer's biggest fanboy flicks...

HAHAHA those look hilarious. I had a copy of the Wolverine movie before the CGI was put in and it was a trip. Oh and sadly that movie didn't improve much after they added the CGI.

Guy's wearing a bubble coat and some no-slip kitchen shoes LMAO

Ultron looks like a 10 year olds Halloween costume.

LMAO

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Captain America is probably my least favorite movie of all the marvel flicks. The guy that plays CA (can't think of his name off the top of my head) is a terrible actor. I just can't buy him as a super hero.

Chris Evans.

Wut?

Chris Evans is decent at the very least.

Captain America was definitely the worst of Marvel's Avengers lead up films but not really through any fault of Evans'.

It was weak because it had to get from 1942 to 2010.

Evans is actually pretty solid. After watching him in Fantastic 4, I thought it was going to suck nutsack. But he does a good job with Cap. Cap is just kinda tough. He's not edgy like Stark. He's not the goddamned Hulk. He's not a demi-God.

He's a USA homer, and Evans did a good job at that.

Yeah, Cap is tough because he's so damn boring. Really, his glaring characteristics are his do-gooder personality and, like you say, the fact that he's a huge patriot. GAY... And the "man displaced in time" angle isn't all that interesting either.

Still, I think Evans did a good job with what he was given and am excited about Cap and Avengers 2.

Chris Evans has said he will retire from acting once he fulfills his CA contracts. He wants to direct instead.

Saw that...surprised but at the same time he had average roles prior to CA. He was ok in previous flicks including Fantastic Four.

I think hes a pretty good CA.

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I would wreck the actress (Olsen?) playing Scarlet Witch

Captain America, as a character, is not boring. People just think he is because he plays the straight man in a roomful of weirdos, and he isn't 'edgy' or 'troubled' or 'borderline psychotic', as is the popular thing right now.

This.

That was good!

I've never thought of him as boring so much as goofy. They've done a great job playing up the whole fish out of water element with him, though, so he doesn't seem so much like a 70 year old ad for the armed forces.

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What's interesting about his character?

He's boring as shit. There's no two ways about it.

Although he lacks superhuman strength, Captain America is one of the few mortal beings who has been deemed worthy enough to wield Thor's hammer Mjolnir.

Honestly, they should have just made him racist. LMAO

Would have fit in with the times he originated from, and it would have been pretty interesting daring the audience to root for a guy in red-white-blue but also hating everything that's not white.

"Wait, Thor... so you're saying you're entire realm is being protected by a black guy? I don't care who he is, that is wolf guarding the henhouse."

If you don't see it, I don't think explaining it will help. Maybe you'd be happier just watching Wolverine be pissed off all the time.

I like Captain America's strategic mind and combat prowess but I couldn't give a shit less about Steve Rogers.

That's not interesting at all.

If Superman was a Marvel character I bet he'd be able to do the same and he's a big ****ing pussy.

How about this... Steve Rogers civilian job was a comic book artist... drawing Captain America the comic. Pretty meta.

The idea is that his military mind and morality are why he's a leader.

He's not the most powerful or "super" of the bunch but the most respected...

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That's why Bucky is the better Cappie :D