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BigMeatballDave 05-31-2013 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9721293)
AL has an advantage, how?

The way I see it, the AL only has the advantage when the NL is in an AL park.

And even then, only slightly since the NL is also using the DH.

Gravedigger 05-31-2013 05:02 AM

Hard to beat the tuck rule, but I'd say holding being a 10 yard penalty, or moving kickers up five yards to negate most kickoff returns is terrible as well.

Nzoner 05-31-2013 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 9721116)
I don't know about worst rule, but I've got one that's pretty ****ing bad.

The Detroit Lions game this past Thanksgiving versus Houston. Texans RB runs up the middle, gets tackled, knee obviously touches, refs miss it. He runs 70 yards and is awarded the TD. Schwartz immediately throws challenge flag. Can't challenge a scoring play because they're automatically reviewed.

Rather than doing the logical thing of still reviewing the play and then penalizing the Lions for the illegal flag, there is some dumbass rule that keeps the refs from reviewing the play if the challenge flag is thrown when it shouldn't have been. Therefore, they just let Houston keep the touchdown. All integrity of the game went out the window on that one.

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9721124)
They've changed the rule. There will now be a review in that situation.


Yeah that was BS rule,thankfully it's gone.

BigMeatballDave 05-31-2013 05:13 AM

An NFL rule I'm glad was changed was the pushout. Hated that ****ing rule.

mdchiefsfan 05-31-2013 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9721297)
The way I see it, the AL only has the advantage when the NL is in an AL park.

And even then, only slightly since the NL is also using the DH.

I agree and I think the NL has the advantage in an NL park, making it pretty much even.

I could see if the home field advantage for the World Series depended on the teams' record, where runs scored could have an effect, if both teams were tied, but it depends on the winner of the ASG, so I still fail to see the issue.

Ace Gunner 05-31-2013 06:51 AM

the fabric of american dumbassery
 
The Goodell crookery that is:


Ejection Penalty; hitting a defenseless receiver


Definition of a Defenseless Player


The following is taken from the 2011 NFL Rule Book (pages 73-74) and defines players who are in a defenseless posture. The material is also covered in the 2011 League Policies for Players Manual, distributed to all players in training camp.

It is a foul if a player initiates unnecessary contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture.

(a) Players in a defenseless posture are:

(1) A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass;

(2) A receiver attempting to catch a pass; or who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a runner. If the receiver/runner is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player;

(3) A runner already in the grasp of a tackler and whose forward progress has been stopped;

(4) A kickoff or punt returner attempting to field a kick in the air;

(5) A player on the ground at the end of a play;

(6) A kicker/punter during the kick or during the return;

(7) A quarterback at any time after a change of possession, and

(8) A player who receives a “blindside” block when the blocker is moving toward his own endline and approaches the opponent from behind or from the side.

(b) Prohibited contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture is:

(1) Forcibly hitting the defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle the defenseless player by encircling or grasping him; and

(2) Lowering the head and making forcible contact with the top/crown or forehead/”hairline” parts of the helmet against any part of the defenseless player’s body.

Note: The provisions of (2) do not prohibit incidental contact by the mask or helmet in the course of a conventional tackle on an opponent.

Penalty: For unnecessary roughness: Loss of 15 yards. The player may be disqualified if the action is judged by the official(s) to be flagrant.

http://nflcommunications.com/2011/12...seless-player/

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Do you have a clear definitive explanation now? This rule gives refs the authority to eject any player on the field for contact during regulation play.

"unnecessary contact" is nearly impossible until after the play is whistled dead in my book. Players too stupid to protect themselves on the football field need to suffer the consequence of their stupidity.

The murky line drawn by Goodell & his money grabbers between what is a routine football tackle and what is considered an act of "unnecessary roughness, resulting in player ejection" is very subjective and will soon sway the outcome of a championship.

The NFL has taken the game from its players and given it to the refs. Great for the owner$, great for Vega$, it is a move motivated by profit.

What used to be an all out strategic war of men between the hash marks until the whistle blows has been dumbed down to controlled exhibition. Hardly worth my $200 to watch that weak sauce. Stupid game now, stupid league.

Can't wait to see what happens when ****tard america brings "player safety" to pro boxing.


Always hated the DH rule.

Dayze 05-31-2013 07:05 AM

Defensive PI; and Holding.

I have no idea which is what anymore.

and basically the hitting rules in the NFL; QBs are untouchable. really if you think about it, the NFL has been pussified substantially.

Dayze 05-31-2013 07:10 AM

I can't stand that QBs can spike the ball to stop the clock.

durtyrute 05-31-2013 07:13 AM

I don't like it that the Qbs can wait till the clock goes to :00 to hike the ball. I've seen that shit in just about every game. If I can see :00 on the clock then it is delay of game.

But the WORST rule is the tuck rule

Rams Fan 05-31-2013 07:15 AM

Not calling a game due to a second rain delay, thus resulting a 4 hour + plus delay even though the umps wanted to call the game.

Go **** yourself, Bud Selig.

chiefzilla1501 05-31-2013 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9721361)
I can't stand that QBs can spike the ball to stop the clock.

For that matter, only players on the field should be allowed to call timeout, and the timeout should be assessed as soon as it's called. None of this bullshit where an NFL coach can whisper to the ref to call a timeout right before the clock hits zero.

Stewie 05-31-2013 07:21 AM

For all the DH haters it's coming to the National League. According to Jayson Stark it could happen as early as 2014, but more likely 2015. With so much inter-league play now and the push from the player's union it's going to happen.

Dayze 05-31-2013 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9721373)
For that matter, only players on the field should be allowed to call timeout, and the timeout should be assessed as soon as it's called. None of this bullshit where an NFL coach can whisper to the ref to call a timeout right before the clock hits zero.

this too.

Old Dog 05-31-2013 07:32 AM

Hitting a ball out of bounds costing me penalty strokes in golf. Where the game originated you couldn't drive the ball OOB without putting it in a taxi cab.

Molitoth 05-31-2013 07:46 AM

The worst thing in sports is No instant reply in some situations, causing for drastic change in outcomes when everybody knows it shouldn't have been.

We have the technology now days to insert instant reply everywhere, and/or have officials calling things from the booth or a digital scoreboard.
There is no need for officials to be on the field anymore trying to call things in real time. Technology has caught up so much that there wouldn't even delay the game.

A Salt Weapon 05-31-2013 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 9721049)
Roughing The Passer, because it's called differently for every QB depending on what team they play for, their salary, public perception, likability and (most disturbing) their marketing power.

What's roughing the passer for Pey Pey is not what's roughing the passer for any random Chiefs or Browns QB. Pey Pey gets a hand graze on the shoulder pad the same instant the ball leaves his hand it's 15 yards and automatic first. Random Chiefs or Browns QB can get hit 3 seconds after the play helmet to helmet and have to leave for a series and it's a great defensive play.

Alright I'm exaggerating a bit but I'm not that far off either.

:thumb:

Dayze 05-31-2013 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 9721049)
Roughing The Passer, because it's called differently for every QB depending on what team they play for, their salary, public perception, likability and (most disturbing) their marketing power.

What's roughing the passer for Pey Pey is not what's roughing the passer for any random Chiefs or Browns QB. Pey Pey gets a hand graze on the shoulder pad the same instant the ball leaves his hand it's 15 yards and automatic first. Random Chiefs or Browns QB can get hit 3 seconds after the play helmet to helmet and have to leave for a series and it's a great defensive play.

Alright I'm exaggerating a bit but I'm not that far off either.

ie See the Trent Green hit by Gaither.

if that shit was done to Manning or Brady dude would've been suspended.

loochy 05-31-2013 08:30 AM

1.) The stupid new kickoff rules in the NFL suck the fun out of a potentially exciting event

2.) I really hate the "changing" rules in the NBA depending on player or what time of the game it is. Why is something a foul in the first quarter not a foul in the last seconds. That makes no sense. A foul is a foul.

Mama Hip Rockets 05-31-2013 08:32 AM

All the foul rules in basketball. I hate how a guy can just stand there and get run over and have a foul called him, or vice versa. The refs are totally inconsistent on how they call it. Fouls, in general, are just called way too frequently. It slows the game down to the point of making it unwatchable for me.

Dayze 05-31-2013 08:33 AM

good point on kickoffs.

the fact that kickers can kick the ball 10 yards past the endzone 90% of the time drives me nuts.

Just start at the 20 FFS at that point.

LoneWolf 05-31-2013 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9720856)
Only idiots walk the 8th hitter to get to the pitcher, BTW. Rolling the lineup over is a moronic tactical decision.

Runners on second and third, two outs, bottom of fifth inning, and a one run game. 8th batter in the order at the plate hitting .260 with 5 HR and 30 RBIs with a pitcher on deck hitting .100 with 0 HR and 0 RBI. I'm walking the 8th batter and pitching to the pitcher every time. You can call that idiotic, but I call it good strategy.

MahiMike 05-31-2013 08:41 AM

This one is easy!

It HAS to be the idiotic offsides rule in soccer. If they eliminated that rule, you would see 10-7 games instead of 0-0. Americans would embrace soccer.

lcarus 05-31-2013 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 9721021)
Ties in any sport. You win or you lose. If some team can't manage to win in OT then both teams deserve to lose.

Or they deserve to keep playing until someone wins the damn game.

Chiefnj2 05-31-2013 08:43 AM

The rule that allows the Hunt family to own an NFL franchise is pretty depressing.

lcarus 05-31-2013 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9721476)
1.) The stupid new kickoff rules in the NFL suck the fun out of a potentially exciting event

2.) I really hate the "changing" rules in the NBA depending on player or what time of the game it is. Why is something a foul in the first quarter not a foul in the last seconds. That makes no sense. A foul is a foul.

There's a lot of inconsistencies in basketball. Especially the NBA. Stars get calls that scrubs don't get. I've seen so many "and 1s" where the scorer wasn't even touched.

ptlyon 05-31-2013 08:43 AM

I personally hate the unwritten rules that the chiefs can't draft a QB in the 1 st round or be allowed to go to the super bowl ever again.

ptlyon 05-31-2013 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9721494)
This one is easy!

It HAS to be the idiotic offsides rule in soccer. If they eliminated that rule, you would see 10-7 games instead of 0-0. Americans would embrace soccer.

We're talking about sports here

WhawhaWhat 05-31-2013 08:44 AM

The Lions and Cowboys playing every Thanksgiving. Although I guess the alternative is the Patriots and Giants every year if the networks get to choose.

ptlyon 05-31-2013 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 9721505)
The Lions and Cowboys playing every Thanksgiving. Although I guess the alternative is the Patriots and Giants every year if the networks get to choose.

I think it would be an Eli in the morning, Peyton in the afternoon format myself

loochy 05-31-2013 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9721494)
This one is easy!

It HAS to be the idiotic offsides rule in soccer. If they eliminated that rule, you would see 10-7 games instead of 0-0. Americans would embrace soccer.

It's not idiotic at all. It's the reason the game has a flow and pace. Without it, it would be a game of longball kickball.

MahiMike 05-31-2013 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9721508)
It's not idiotic at all. It's the reason the game has a flow and pace. Without it, it would be a game of longball kickball.

I don't think so. Without offsides, it'd me more like basketball. More fast breaks and exciting plays. As it is, soccer is a jumbled, unorganized mess.

lcarus 05-31-2013 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9720821)
Still bummed about the lowering the head rule.

If this one gets enforced enough, this will probably shoot up to #1 for me. Just mindlessly stupid.

lcarus 05-31-2013 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9721476)
1.) The stupid new kickoff rules in the NFL suck the fun out of a potentially exciting event

2.) I really hate the "changing" rules in the NBA depending on player or what time of the game it is. Why is something a foul in the first quarter not a foul in the last seconds. That makes no sense. A foul is a foul.

The refs don't want to potentially have a team lose due to a questionable ticky tack call. I suggest they just STOP CALLIGN TICKY TACK FOULS THE WHOLE ****ING GAME. Let the ****ers play.

loochy 05-31-2013 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9721515)
I don't think so. Without offsides, it'd me more like basketball. More fast breaks and exciting plays. As it is, soccer is a jumbled, unorganized mess.

It's VERY organized. I think you don't realize this because of the way TV shows the field - it only shows a small portion. It's kind of like how in football they don't show everything and you really lose a lot of the nuts and bolts of the game by just ball watching.

Besides, the rule will NEVER change because the offsides rule is central to the way the full sized outdoor game is played.

They have fast exciting soccer that scores lots of goals - it's called indoor and it's not really very popular.

loochy 05-31-2013 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9721524)
The refs don't want to potentially have a team lose due to a questionable ticky tack call. I suggest they just STOP CALLIGN TICKY TACK FOULS THE WHOLE ****ING GAME. Let the ****ers play.

Whatever way - just go with one way and be consistent.

morphius 05-31-2013 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9721515)
I don't think so. Without offsides, it'd me more like basketball. More fast breaks and exciting plays. As it is, soccer is a jumbled, unorganized mess.

I'd be much happier with a hockey type of offsides than the current system, especially when the ball is in the box.

lcarus 05-31-2013 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9721530)
Whatever way - just go with one way and be consistent.

Agreed. They need to go one way - the "let them play way".

WhawhaWhat 05-31-2013 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9721529)
It's VERY organized. I think you don't realize this because of the way TV shows the field - it only shows a small portion. It's kind of like how in football they don't show everything and you really lose a lot of the nuts and bolts of the game by just ball watching.

Besides, the rule will NEVER change because the offsides rule is central to the way the full sized outdoor game is played.

They have fast exciting soccer that scores lots of goals - it's called indoor and it's not really very popular.

While we're at it, let's get rid of the offsides rule in football. Why can't the defenders line up wherever they want?

loochy 05-31-2013 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 9721539)
While we're at it, let's get rid of the offsides rule in football. Why can't the defenders line up wherever they want?

it would make the game faster and we'd see more sacks

MahiMike 05-31-2013 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9721529)
It's VERY organized. I think you don't realize this because of the way TV shows the field - it only shows a small portion. It's kind of like how in football they don't show everything and you really lose a lot of the nuts and bolts of the game by just ball watching.

Besides, the rule will NEVER change because the offsides rule is central to the way the full sized outdoor game is played.

They have fast exciting soccer that scores lots of goals - it's called indoor and it's not really very popular.

I hear ya and understand your opinion. I know quite a bit about soccer. My son plays travel soccer, my in-laws play in Europe, etc. But to call it organized is just incorrect. Have you ever seen a player hold up 2 fingers as if to call a play in soccer? No, because there are no set plays. Thus, unorganized.

Now, you take away the off-sides and things change. Now you can deep kick to a 3 on 1 break and see some scoring.

The whole idea is moot because they will never change it. Just saying this rule is THE reason why soccer isn't popular in America.

Discuss Thrower 05-31-2013 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9721543)
I hear ya and understand your opinion. I know quite a bit about soccer. My son plays travel soccer, my in-laws play in Europe, etc. But to call it organized is just incorrect. Have you ever seen a player hold up 2 fingers as if to call a play in soccer? No, because there are no set plays. Thus, unorganized.

Now, you take away the off-sides and things change. Now you can deep kick to a 3 on 1 break and see some scoring.

The whole idea is moot because they will never change it. Just saying this rule is THE reason why soccer isn't popular in America.

Or the game devolves into a contest who can camp out at the opposing goal the best.

loochy 05-31-2013 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9721543)
I hear ya and understand your opinion. I know quite a bit about soccer. My son plays travel soccer, my in-laws play in Europe, etc. But to call it organized is just incorrect. Have you ever seen a player hold up 2 fingers as if to call a play in soccer? No, because there are no set plays. Thus, unorganized.

Yes, actually quite often on a set piece (corner kick or free kick). Those are practiced quite often and they aren't just a mess of guys running at the goal. The players know where they are moving to ahead of time and the kick taker knows where he wants to put the ball. In high school we practiced this for 30 minutes every day.

Mahi, professional soccer is INCREDIBLY organized considering the constant flowing with no timeouts.

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9721543)
Now, you take away the off-sides and things change. Now you can deep kick to a 3 on 1 break and see some scoring.

No, you'll see camping with lots of back and forth long balling.

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 9721543)
The whole idea is moot because they will never change it. Just saying this rule is THE reason why soccer isn't popular in America.

Meh, I'm happy with the way things are.

Dayze 05-31-2013 09:14 AM

finishing a race under caution in F1.

loochy 05-31-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9721550)
finishing a race under caution in F1.

Yeah, that sucks. Give them a little bit under green to at least give an exciting finish.

Megbert 05-31-2013 09:20 AM

I hate when the offense is backed up to its goal line. 1st and 10 at the 2. First play offense is called for holding so they get backed up 1 yard (holding happened outside end zone) so now it's 2nd and 11. Why not move the First down marker out 10 yards to the 22 yard line? Thus penalizing the offense as if the penalty happened in th middle of the field.

Dayze 05-31-2013 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by AZORChiefFan (Post 9721566)
I hate when the offense is backed up to its goal line. 1st and 10 at the 2. First play offense is called for holding so they get backed up 1 yard (holding happened outside end zone) so now it's 2nd and 11. Why not move the First down marker out 10 yards to the 22 yard line? Thus penalizing the offense as if the penalty happened in th middle of the field.

:hmmm:

mikeyis4dcats. 05-31-2013 09:31 AM

that rule where the team that blocks a punt doesn't get to recover it that burned the Chiefs a couple of years ago against Indy.

morphius 05-31-2013 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by AZORChiefFan (Post 9721566)
I hate when the offense is backed up to its goal line. 1st and 10 at the 2. First play offense is called for holding so they get backed up 1 yard (holding happened outside end zone) so now it's 2nd and 11. Why not move the First down marker out 10 yards to the 22 yard line? Thus penalizing the offense as if the penalty happened in th middle of the field.

I can't come up with a very good argument against that.

ptlyon 05-31-2013 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9721575)
:hmmm:

"As the chiefs line up, it'll now be 1 St & 60 from the chiefs 2"

Dayze 05-31-2013 09:35 AM

LMAO

and they'll call a draw play.

mdchiefsfan 05-31-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9721585)
LMAO

and they'll call a draw play.

:LOL: they'll never see it coming

lcarus 05-31-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AZORChiefFan (Post 9721566)
I hate when the offense is backed up to its goal line. 1st and 10 at the 2. First play offense is called for holding so they get backed up 1 yard (holding happened outside end zone) so now it's 2nd and 11. Why not move the First down marker out 10 yards to the 22 yard line? Thus penalizing the offense as if the penalty happened in th middle of the field.

Hmm, that's a pretty good point. Since there really isn't a penalty in that situation (what...half a yard or half an inch?) assuming the holding is not in the end zone, why NOT move the sticks farther downfield? As it is now, you're better off just holding in that situation if you're a lineman about to get beat.

Demonpenz 05-31-2013 09:56 AM

Handballs and fouls inside the box in soccer that are not called for PK's drive me batty. In general the officials that don't make correct calls because they want the "players to decide the game" make me batty. Call the game correct or make the rules state "In the event of a close fought game a ref shall not get involved the game even if there are rules violations".

Speed up baseball games. A Shot clock (pitch clock) for pitchers. I hate that relievers have warm up tosses when they come to the mound they should have the warmed up in the pen and be ready to go when they come in.

There are tons of them in football but I am not going into that. I think hockey fights and hockey goons are lame as well.

Backwards Masking 05-31-2013 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9721130)
The shady bounty shit in New Orleans is exactly why QB protections are in place. The Saints cheated by taking cheap shots at QBs. They succeeded in knocking Kurt Warner and Brett Favre out of critical playoff games. Quite possible they won the Minnesota game by cheating, because Favre didn't return for the critical last series of the game.

It's not cheating if the refs don't call it.

This post and the example that went with it is are just further proof that Roughing The Passer is the most biased call. Brees and Nowleans were the feel good story that year, Favre was the arrogant prima donna traitor of all arrogant prima donna traitors. The league knew they wouldn't sell nearly as much merchandise if an asshole won the SB, so they looked the other way when New Orleans defense raped him. The Saints didn't get to do that to Pey Pey the next game , but if they had played a random Browns or Chiefs QB the refs wouldve more or less said "Rape On!!!"

The league only wants to protect the likable QB's that sell the most merchandise, they couldn't care less about the safety of the nobodies and assholes, and that's bullshit

Dayze 05-31-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 9721616)
It's not cheating if the refs don't call it.



The league only wants to protect the likable QB's that sell the most merchandise, they couldn't care less about the safety of the nobodies and assholes, and that's bullshit

Yep
http://images.usatoday.com/sports/_p...9/10/green.jpg

loochy 05-31-2013 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9721585)
LMAO

and they'll call a draw play.

to mccluster no less

loochy 05-31-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 9721615)
Handballs and fouls inside the box in soccer that are not called for PK's drive me batty. In general the officials that don't make correct calls because they want the "players to decide the game" make me batty. Call the game correct or make the rules state "In the event of a close fought game a ref shall not get involved the game even if there are rules violations".

Yeah, that's the same argument that I have with basketball. WTF?! A foul is a foul!

Mr. Laz 05-31-2013 11:01 AM

the offside in soccer and hockey

Discuss Thrower 05-31-2013 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9721754)
the offside in soccer and hockey

Hockey's offsides makes total sense.

WhawhaWhat 05-31-2013 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 9721763)
Hockey's offsides makes total sense.

Glad they got rid of the 2 line pass rule though.

milkman 06-02-2013 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 9721615)

Speed up baseball games. A Shot clock (pitch clock) for pitchers. I hate that relievers have warm up tosses when they come to the mound they should have the warmed up in the pen and be ready to go when they come in.

I don't know about the most stupid rules, but I agree with this.

Which brings me to another couple of rules that need to be addressed.

Intentional walks.

Just tell the ump you intend to walk the batter and let the ump simply award him the base rather than waste the time to toss the 4 pitches.

And don't give me the old, "Well the pitcher might throw a wild pitch" argument.
How many times has anyone ever seen that?

In football, defensive holding should not be an automatic first down.

-King- 06-02-2013 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by AZORChiefFan (Post 9721566)
I hate when the offense is backed up to its goal line. 1st and 10 at the 2. First play offense is called for holding so they get backed up 1 yard (holding happened outside end zone) so now it's 2nd and 11. Why not move the First down marker out 10 yards to the 22 yard line? Thus penalizing the offense as if the penalty happened in th middle of the field.

Well damn. That's actually a pretty good idea.
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Mr. Laz 06-02-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 9721763)
Hockey's offsides makes total sense.

i'm not a big hockey fan so i can't really argue the point.


just seems like defense is defense, why the rule?


should the NFL have a rule that says the WR's can't run past the DB until the ball is in the air?

cardken2 06-02-2013 10:37 AM

Being able to "knee" out the clock in football, you should have to put the ball in play. Make it a game, "kneeing" is a cop out.

-King- 06-02-2013 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cardken2 (Post 9725031)
Being able to "knee" out the clock in football, you should have to put the ball in play. Make it a game, "kneeing" is a cop out.

The ball is in play.
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Discuss Thrower 06-02-2013 11:09 AM

The point is to prevent cherry picking. Also, nhl's offside rule is pretty inflexible: don't have anything more than a skate on the oooosing sides blue line before the puck crosses first.

TrebMaxx 06-02-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AZORChiefFan (Post 9721566)
I hate when the offense is backed up to its goal line. 1st and 10 at the 2. First play offense is called for holding so they get backed up 1 yard (holding happened outside end zone) so now it's 2nd and 11. Why not move the First down marker out 10 yards to the 22 yard line? Thus penalizing the offense as if the penalty happened in th middle of the field.

:thumb: I was about post on the same rule. My thought was make it that if the ofense is backed up against the the goal line and would get half the distance from the goal then if the defense committed a penalty in the same area it would be half the distance from the goal. I like your idea more.

Prison Bitch 06-02-2013 11:11 AM

Stopped clock after first downs in college. So damn stupid, these games shouldn't take 4 hours. If you really have 4 hours to kill watching college football than you should contemplate suicide.


The passing games are too good now to stop clocks. When teams ran the wishbone , diff story.


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