Not awful, IMO. Obviously, its dependent upon who they nab with over-slot money with their next two selections. Dozier is a college bat (could move quickly), and we all know that getting someone to solidify ANY infield position with this club is pretty important right now.

Royals baseball!

Meadows should have been the pick. Consensus opinion here.

If Moose ever pulls his head out and starts hitting and Dozier can make the move to second, we might finally be rid of the Chris Getz failure at second.

BA had Dozier 40th overall....

If nobody falls due to signability, this will be a bad move. For this to work, we need at least 1 or 2 guys where everyone is going "holy crap, this guy is falling because of money". Well, we've got plenty of money now.

LMAO

Yeah, but the Royals know what they are doing! Moose 2nd overall, Hos 3rd, Crow 12th, Colon 4th, Bubba 5th.

Just like Donald Stephenson and Russell Wilson.

So you reach on a guy ranked in the 40's with the 8th pick? **** that strategy/

We didn't invent it, last year was the first year you could try it, and several teams did. Its still early to judge the 2012 draft, but a lot of people thought it was a clever move.

@Pirates 3m
About Austin Meadows: Rated as the best athlete, 2nd-best pure hitter & best strike zone judgment among high school players in this draft

Welp, now we know why the Royals passed on Meadows.

No other team has reached yet.

Yeah, but saving money ftw!

.@JimBowdenESPNxm *on Hunter Dozier to the*@Royals : This is an absolute stunner. With the 8th overall pick. Dozier? Are you kidding me?

But hey, you saved some money.

There's obviously 2 sides to the coin. The opposite strategy is to pay overslot for the first few rounds, then sign worthless $1,000 scrubs in the 7th-10th rounds.

They ****ed up.

Some players drop due to money every year. We'll be able to take any of them.

TE=Reaper16;9733977]@Pirates 3m
About Austin Meadows: Rated as the best athlete, 2nd-best pure hitter & best strike zone judgment among high school players in this draft

Welp, now we know why the Royals passed on Meadows.[/QUOTE]

Come on you know we don't work counts so we would nig want that guy.

Meadows > any of those scrubs

Royals need another OF prospect now that they traded Myers and Starling being a bust.

Baseball drafts are a complete crapshoot. There's nothing to get upset about.

Blue jays also reached. Took a guy ranked 55th overall. Dumbasses

Yep, Royals still ****ed up.

Tits galore in the DJ Peterson interview.

Not because they drafted Frazier, no. The rest of their stupid moves over the years? Sure.

They were nice.

Bickford was projected by most as a top 10-20 pick (not that these rankings matter). He's also a high price guy (asking for $3M), who may be difficult to sign which is why some thought he would fall further than what he did.

I think you are massively over-valuing MLB draft picks after the 3rd or 4th pick. They all fail at a spectacularly high rate. We passed up a guy who might have a 25-30% chance of being a good player, to hopefully pick up a few more 20%'ers during rounds when everyone else is drafting 10-15%'ers.

GMDM, is that you?

When is the Royals next pick? They better pick a guy with upside that has fallen like you said.

Starling a bust? Jeez people are ****ing stupid.

I don't think people understand that the MLB draft is far different than the NFL draft. The economics of it are completely different. It's entirely possible Austin Meadows told the Royals he wouldn't sign with them, for example. I know I would if I was a high school prospect.

And miss a golden opportunity to work with a Hall of Fame manager in Ned Yost? I think not.

Royals will take lefty Sean Manea with their next pick. Highly rated guy with a slight injury concern, R's will be able to sign him with money saved. Don't know if that is the right play, but that's likely the plan.

His K rate is atrocious and it's A ball. The guy is almost 21 for Christ's sake. Not looking good at all.

The slot value at #8 is $3.1MM. At #40, it is a bit under $1.5MM. In the 3rd round, slot values are all at about 750k or less.

It starts out high at $7.8MM for #1 overall but then it drops like a rock, after #20, the slot values are all under $2MM.

If a late first-rounder wants 2.2 for example, most of the teams will have to say no and pass on drafting him. In the 3rd round, we could pay over $1MM, etc.

I drafted that guy in my dynasty league last year (yes, it's a very deep dynasty league). Very high ceiling supposedly, but he's gotten hurt and been less effective in the spring.

He hasn't even played a full professional season yet.
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Looks like Rany concurs. Manea is the only player left who wants a lot of money.

While his K rate is concerning, the rest of this post is just ignorant. They own this kid for the first six years of his MLB career. Once again, this isn't football where you can't take the time to develop a player. You have several years til you even have to include him on the forty man, and then you have three years of options to send him to the minors. He has time to develop.

re: "why not sign Manea at #8?" If you fail to sign a player, you lose that money from your pool. Manea is risky because aside from injury concerns, he's also a Junior who some think might pull an Appel and go back to school. Sign Dozier for ~$1MM, see if Manea will sign for 2.5 or so and have almost another million extra money to play with in later picks. If he doesn't sign, we only lose about 1.5 from our pool instead of 3.1.

The average age of the South Atlantic League is probably 22. He is stinking it up against his peers. It's more than just a little concerning.

By "his peers" you mean "players who are, on average, two years older than him" ?

He's 21 in August.

SF just took a projected 3rd-rounder

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Winners and Losers of the 1st Round: Winners: Mets,Pirates,Cubs,Twins,Sea, Cle Losers: Royals

Sean Manaea is now BPA and still falling. It almost has to be him for this to make any sense.

I think he's falling cause he's hurt.

He's also a junior and hasn't ruled out going back to school. He's a huge risk in the high first round.

My Bears beat Manaea in the regular season. I think it was 3-0 victory. I hope the Royals can draft Petree from Missouri State. He is a stud as well.

:thumb:

NOT OUR TIME!

I'm pissed. Royals should have taken a sure thing, like Hosmer.

lol, like Bowden knows anything.

This has to be Manaea. If its not, then I'll be totally confused, and probably upset.

DRAFT ANYTHING BUT A PITCHER!/KC fans

SPEND THAT 1ST ON RIGHT FIELD, GODDAMNIT!/KC fan

La Russa looks drunk....

It better ****ing be.

Manaea was considered for #1 overall not all that long ago, and is a Boras client.

This stooge doesn't know what the **** he's doing.....

Its Manaea.

There we go.

Manaea is basically our #8 pick, and Dozier is basically our #34 pick.

If Manaea refuses to sign, we lose only about 1.3 from our bonus pool instead of 3.1

The ball comes out of Manaea's hand real funky like. Nice.

He has an acetabular labrum tear and has thrown like shit. He's going to be a VERY tough sign.

Thanks, that makes me feel better.

If he gets back to where he was last year you're golden.

Reynalds (and the MLB Network broadcasting crew) are just brutal..

his windup reminds me of chris sale

*video of chris sale throwing sidearm*

well he's tall and skinny and left ahh **** it let me touch some interns ass

That hip injury is about a 3-4 month rehab from what I've read. Before that injury, he was pitching well enough for consideration at #1 overall.

When his hip recovers, there's no reason why he shouldn't be able to do what he's done the last 3 years.

"Before the season started, his mechanics were a cause for concern. Now you know why. His mechanics are very stressful on his body and the body is showing it. He gets his plant knee extended quickly and make his hip control all of his balance and absorb all of the rotational forces in his delivery. Then the elbow never has much flexion in it and kind of long arms the ball. With his elbow so extended, the moment arm of the forces are farther out and requires his rotator cuff to work harder along with the other internal rotators to work harder to turn his arm over. That is why you are seeing shoulder problems."
http://www.crawfishboxes.com/2013-ml...-indiana-state

Signing him for 2MM or whatever to watch him break down in the minors would be a very Royals thing to do. Damn near every promising starting pitcher prospect we've had recently has hurt themselves.

Our last pick of the night is coming up.

Cody Reed, Juco fireballer currently committed to transfer to ole miss.

Keith Law's take on him, has him as his #37 ranked player:

Reed is a true ?pop-up? guy, appearing on scouts' radars this spring as a possible sandwich-round pick who was undrafted when eligible the last two years.

He checks a lot of boxes scouts look for in amateur pitchers -- size, athleticism, handedness (his would be left), velocity (92-95), a second pitch (a plus curveball), and a good delivery. Reed takes a long stride toward the plate, keeps himself online, and gets his pitching hand turned over nice and early.

He's still something of a project, with below-average command and control and a lack of formal pitching instruction or history facing good competition, but the raw material here is tremendous, with the potential for a mid-rotation starter or more.

He will thrive in our pitcher development system.

Interesting draft and not how I expected that to shake out... I'm really surprised Meadows was available at 8 and would probably have preferred they go that right...

But after seeing this all work out/break out, that Dozier pick makes a lot more sense than it did at 8 pm.

They picked a pair of helium, high ceiling guys with the next two picks, and the money that was saved on Dozier should make it possible to sign at least one of those guys.

Manaea is a high ceiling with some risk that looks much better at No. 34 than No. 8. If he can get healthy and they can clean up the mechanics a bit, he has huge potential. 6-6 lefties who can throw in the mid-90s, working off a good changeup and with a decent breaking pitch (Manaea throws a slurve). Hopefully, they can give him an extreme over-slot deal and sell him on starting his pro career with money similar to what he'd get as a top 5 pick next year.

Reed kind of came out of nowhere, but when lefties with that type of size pick up 5-6 mph on an average fastball in their second year in a college program... that tends to happen.

He's raw, but has received only minimal development and coaching so far. That's a guy that can really take off with professional instruction.

The first round pick of Dozier looks cheap... but when it is backed up by high-upside risks like Manaea and Reed, I think cost concerns go out the window.

Of course, it's now up to the Royals to do SOMETHING with these guys when/if they sign them, and that hasn't exactly been a strong suit in this farm system of late.

A guy like Manaea is someone who could be like Yordano Ventura, though. A guy whose stuff is so good, that if you can smooth out his mechanics a little bit, he might be bulletproof in development.

Speaking of Ventura... not sure if anyone posted info from his AAA debut tonight...

5 IP (87 pitches)
1 hit
4 BB (this is the thing to watch with him)
6 K

He now has 80ks in 62 2/3 IP this year, against just 24 walks.

Judging by Manaea's reaction on twitter, I think its safe to say that we're going to sign him.

Could have had this guy in the second round. Typical Royals pick.