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Quesadilla Joe 07-28-2013 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 9841992)
Or they could sign a guy who's been bouncing around the league.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...r-steve-vallos

I don't know if he's any better than the guys we have already.

vailpass 07-28-2013 08:07 PM

You poor ****ers. Like you but Damn.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-28-2013 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9842001)
I don't know if he's any better than the guys we have already.

That bunch of chodes?

TribalElder 07-28-2013 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 9841992)
Or they could sign a guy who's been bouncing around the league.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...r-steve-vallos

Dontari Poe has to be excited

Pablo 07-28-2013 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver Mike (Post 9841848)
You're a ****ing idiot. Not a one of you actually thought he'd make it through last season and what do you know he had one of the best seasons in his career.

With Welker in the mix, this year Manning is going to trample your team and any pathetic hopes you have of KC making the playoffs.

Alex Smith, Woop Woop!

probably true.

ptlyon 07-28-2013 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyChuckles (Post 9841768)
I would like to formally apologize for my fellow fan's insolence in this thread. We are creating a horrible karmic imbalance which I am afraid will wreak havoc on our own chances this year and into the future. Please football deities, have mercy on our souls.

Noted

ptlyon 07-28-2013 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver Mike (Post 9841869)
Fair statement. I can talk fairly to fans who don't have their heads up their assholes.

Andy Reid will do a lot for your team. I honestly think he can be a superb coach. Like Shanny in Denver, he needed a good change of scenery.

Thanks for the respect.I myself will wait & see. Til then, have fun losing in the playoffs.

wink91wink 07-28-2013 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver Mike (Post 9841871)
Chiefs fan's like you are just an embarrassment. Sorry, but it's not my fault your franchise has been a joke the past decade

Tim Tebow was your Quarterback 2 seasons ago and you are calling us a joke?

listopencil 07-28-2013 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wink91wink (Post 9842174)
Tim Tebow was your Quarterback 2 seasons ago and you are calling us a joke?

You made a mult just to say that? Hardly worth the effort.

wink91wink 07-28-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9842181)
You made a mult just to say that? Hardly worth the effort.

Actually it was my first post, just found this site a few days ago

Imon Yourside 07-28-2013 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wink91wink (Post 9842187)
Actually it was my first post, just found this site a few days ago

Nevermind Listo he hangs out here and is really a Chief fan down underneath that crusty donkey exterior.

listopencil 07-28-2013 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9842212)
Nevermind Listo he hangs out here and is really a Chief fan down underneath that crusty donkey exterior.

Hah. Not in a million years. I just can't stand reading reeruned homer opinions of my team, and the only board that had a shred of non-homer activity was turned into a mouthpiece for the Mexican board of tourism. So you're stuck with me.

wink91wink 07-28-2013 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9842240)
Hah. Not in a million years. I just can't stand reading reeruned homer opinions of my team, and the only board that had a shred of non-homer activity was turned into a mouthpiece for the Mexican board of tourism. So you're stuck with me.

haha gotta pick one extreme or the other :thumb:

RealSNR 07-28-2013 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9842240)
Hah. Not in a million years. I just can't stand reading reeruned homer opinions of my team, and the only board that had a shred of non-homer activity was turned into a mouthpiece for the Mexican board of tourism. So you're stuck with me.

Taco John doesn't seem like the kind of guy to give in so easily to a government like that.

Tombstone RJ 07-28-2013 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9841951)
Koppen was signed because JD Walton was having ankle issues, JD should be back by Oct or Nov. Guys like Manny Ramirez, Chris Kuper and Phillip Blake can fill in, it's not like they have to make the line calls with The Sheriff behind center.

Kuper is on the PUP list and Blake is having a bad training camp. It appears ManRam is our only hope and of right now.

MagicHef 07-28-2013 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9842240)
Hah. Not in a million years. I just can't stand reading reeruned homer opinions of my team, and the only board that had a shred of non-homer activity was turned into a mouthpiece for the Mexican board of tourism. So you're stuck with me.

I haven't seen a Mexican tourism thread on there for a while. Also, there's some good training camp stuff on there right now.

Mother****erJones 07-28-2013 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 9842280)
Kuper is on the PUP list and Blake is having a bad training camp. It appears ManRam is our only hope and of right now.

Everyone's an All-Pro according to NoNo

clyde05 07-28-2013 11:48 PM

Jeff Saturday will come out of retirement to be with Manning again

Quesadilla Joe 07-29-2013 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9842302)
Everyone's an All-Pro according to NoNo

No we just happen to have depth.

Discuss Thrower 07-29-2013 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by clyde05 (Post 9842326)
Jeff Saturday will come out of retirement to be with Manning again

Reddit-heads have conjectured that only for some to point out that he's lost around 50 lbs and is working the studio circuit.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-29-2013 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9842343)
No we just happen to have depth.

ROFL you consider any piece of shit they sign to be super awesome

Mother****erJones 07-29-2013 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9842343)
No we just happen to have depth.

Not as much as you think...who is your starting center?

Garcia Bronco 07-29-2013 06:33 AM

Help us ManRam, you're are only hope. lol

Quesadilla Joe 07-29-2013 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9842423)
Not as much as you think...who is your starting center?

Manny Ramirez began camp as the starter. He is no Pro Bowler but he started like 10 games for us last year. And who knows, Kuper could always try to transition to center once he is allowed to practice, he was working out with our strength coach during camp yesterday.

loochy 07-29-2013 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9842441)
Manny Ramirez began camp as the starter. He is no Pro Bowler but he started like 10 games for us last year. And who knows, Kuper could always try to transition to center once he is allowed to practice, he was working out with our strength coach during camp yesterday.

Starting games does not make one good.

Sabby Piscatelli and Jon McGraw started many games too.

KCUnited 07-29-2013 07:13 AM

So Denver's had a complete front office meltdown, their star player is smoking himself out of the league, and now this. How is Denver fan koppen with all this?

-King- 07-29-2013 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9842447)
So Denver's had a complete front office meltdown, their star player is smoking himself out of the league, and now this. How is Denver fan koppen with all this?

LMAO
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Quesadilla Joe 07-29-2013 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9842444)
Starting games does not make one good.

Sabby Piscatelli and Jon McGraw started many games too.

Manny wasn't bad, he had some good games. Koppen or JD Walton would be better but Manny can hold his own. The rest of our OL is pretty studly.

Rasputin 07-29-2013 07:29 AM

Really sounds like the broncos are on a downward spiral this offseason. Couldn't keep Dumberville & FO drunks running the show.


The center for the donks was a big deal for their O-line stable.

Quesadilla Joe 07-29-2013 07:42 AM

Bringing Alex Gibbs back will more than make up for losing Koppen. Hillman is getting rave reviews in camp right now because of it.

Rasputin 07-29-2013 07:46 AM

8-8 could win the AFCW this year.

Quesadilla Joe 07-29-2013 07:47 AM

I get trolled so hard here.

Amnorix 07-29-2013 08:01 AM

Koppen is pretty good, especially when it comes to communication, setting the blocking, etc., but he's not exactly an irreplaceably awesome center.

Mother****erJones 07-29-2013 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9842475)
I get trolled so hard here.

You're the troll

vailpass 07-29-2013 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9842471)
8-8 could win the AFCW this year.

No.

loochy 07-29-2013 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9842475)
I get trolled so hard here.

Trolling causes an equal but opposite reaction.

Being a Donks homer on a Chiefs board = trolling

Rasputin 07-29-2013 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 9842513)
No.

Yes

vailpass 07-29-2013 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9842531)
Yes

Fair enough. Can't wait for the season to start. West will be better this year.

DaFace 07-29-2013 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9842475)
I get trolled so hard here.

You only perceive that because you have the football acumen of a 10-year-old ballerina.

BigMeatballDave 07-29-2013 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9842567)
You only perceive that because you have the football acumen of a 10-year-old ballerina.

LMAO

Quesadilla Joe 07-29-2013 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9842567)
You only perceive that because you have the football acumen of a 10-year-old ballerina.

So you think there is a good chance that 8-8 wins the AFCW this year?

ptlyon 07-29-2013 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9842570)
So you think there is a good chance that 8-8 wins the AFCW this year?

You will have 17 wins this year. 16-0 in the regular season then the obligatory one & done in the playoffs.

DaFace 07-29-2013 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9842570)
So you think there is a good chance that 8-8 wins the AFCW this year?

Nope. But of course, I never said that.

Chronic 07-29-2013 09:16 AM

Watching the Bronocs and Chiefs fight over who's better is like watching a cripple fight

Fansy the Famous Bard 07-29-2013 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 9842589)
Watching the Bronocs and Chiefs fight over who's better is like watching a cripple fight

but who's the cripple fighting?

BigMeatballDave 07-29-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9842575)
You will have 17 wins this year. 16-0 in the regular season then the obligatory one & done in the playoffs.

Math fail.

ptlyon 07-29-2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9842721)
Math fail.

How so?

Garcia Bronco 07-29-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9842726)
How so?

Because we would be 16-1 to go one and done. Unless you thinkt he West will have two 16-0 teams (which is impossible)


You just got Donkey Schooled:eek:

FlaChief58 07-29-2013 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9842726)
How so?

That would make them 16-1 :facepalm:

Sassy Squatch 07-29-2013 10:55 AM

Let's all point and laugh at ptlyon

ptlyon 07-29-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 9842734)
Because we would be 16-1 to go one and done. Unless you thinkt he West will have two 16-0 teams (which is impossible)


You just got Donkey Schooled:eek:

I meant one win in the playoffs then done, but whatever.

ptlyon 07-29-2013 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 9842738)
Let's all point and laugh at ptlyon

Hey, I was giving Manning benefit of the doubt for actually winning a playoff game this year!

Easy 6 07-29-2013 11:02 AM

Man what an offseason so far for the donks, looks like it just might be time for the devil to collect on his contract with Bowlen.

MagicHef 07-29-2013 11:05 AM

This is what we get for pinning all our Super Bowl hopes on a center who's about to turn 34. Maybe we can grind out a win or two without him, but I'm not optimistic.

DaneMcCloud 07-29-2013 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9842750)
This is what we get for pinning all our Super Bowl hopes on a center who's about to turn 34. Maybe we can grind out a win or two without him, but I'm not optimistic.

Koppen is out for the year. He replaced J.D. Walton, who is out for the year. The third center, C.J. Davis was injured Saturday and didn't practice Sunday.

Joke all you want but center is an important position, especially to the QB.

MagicHef 07-29-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9842755)
Koppen is out for the year. He replaced J.D. Walton, who is out for the year. The third center, C.J. Davis was injured Saturday and didn't practice Sunday.

Joke all you want but center is an important position, especially to the QB.

Uh, no. Manuel Ramirez has been the starter throughout camp, even when Koppen was healthy. They've been planning on him starting for a while, because Koppen looked like he was going to retire. I've never even heard of C.J. Davis.

Easy 6 07-29-2013 11:15 AM

Pretty sure those linemen are also just a part of the donks woe's, gotta admit Hef... its been a very inauspicious start so far.

MagicHef 07-29-2013 11:16 AM

Also, Walton is not out for the year.

MagicHef 07-29-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9842763)
Pretty sure those linemen are also just a part of the donks woe's, gotta admit Hef... its been a very inauspicious start so far.

So there's Von (who, in case you hadn't noticed, hasn't been suspended yet), and our backup center? Uh oh.

Sure, the FO drunks were stupid, but at this point those have nothing to do with the product on the field.

RealSNR 07-29-2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 9842343)
No we just happen to have depth.

You were saying this exact same kind of shit about all your players during the Broncos 4-12 season in 2010.

DaneMcCloud 07-29-2013 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9842762)
Uh, no. Manuel Ramirez has been the starter throughout camp, even when Koppen was healthy. They've been planning on him starting for a while, because Koppen looked like he was going to retire. I've never even heard of C.J. Davis.

This article from ABC 7 Denver disagrees

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/spor...ith-leg-injury

MagicHef 07-29-2013 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9842784)
This article from ABC 7 Denver disagrees

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/spor...ith-leg-injury

You can tell it's a quality article based on the fact that it doesn't even mention the guy who was expected to start all the way back in June.

http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=857...amp-as-starter

DaneMcCloud 07-29-2013 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9842790)
You can tell it's a quality article based on the fact that it doesn't even mention the guy who was expected to start all the way back in June.

www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=857860-broncos-manuel-ramirez-could-enter-camp-as-starter

Except that he didn't. He didn't even take snaps at center in real practices until today's training camp session.

Furthermore, the guy has never played at center during his NFL career. He's always been a guard.

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_...-manny-ramirez

You don't seem to know much about your team.

Here's another:

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4383/player

Cannibal 07-29-2013 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9842816)
You don't seem to know much about your team.

ROFL

Cannibal 07-29-2013 12:01 PM

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...cos?source=pkg

This article does state that Ramirez did work at Center during offseason workouts, prior to training camp.

But it also says he gave up 6 sacks in one on one situations last year, the highest on the team.


Manny Ramirez, who made 11 starts at right guard for Denver last year, was at center throughout offseason workouts before training camp. But when Walton was forced to have more surgery, Denver signed Koppen and he was quickly put into the starting lineup.

Ramirez, a powerful blocker in the running game, allowed six sacks in man-on-man situations last season, the highest total on the team. Many defensive coordinators in the NFL say the best way to unsettle quarterback Peyton Manning is with pressure up the middle, so any issues at center would certainly impact the Denver offense.

MagicHef 07-29-2013 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9842816)
Except that he didn't. He didn't even take snaps at center in real practices until today's training camp session.

Furthermore, the guy has never played at center during his NFL career. He's always been a guard.

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_...-manny-ramirez

You don't seem to know much about your team.

Here's another:

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4383/player

Please quote the part of that article that says that he didn't take snaps at center until today. Because, in case you didn't notice, neither article says anything of the sort.

From the OM:
Quote:

TD was on NFL Network tonight, and said he called Tom Nalen for his take on Man Ram starting at center for the Broncos to begin the season.

I'm paraphrasing, but Nalen told him that it could have been a disaster but it should work itself out since he had been taking the 1st team reps all during OTA's and thus far in TC.

The line calls and continuity w/ PM is the key. He felt that the experience gained throughout OTA's and TC should be enough to carry them over until JD Walton returns.
Quote:

Clough (man he is painful) just said on 104.3 that he overheard Magazu telling Smyth this morning that Manny was always going to be the starter and Koppen was brought in to be the backup.
Magazu is Denver's OL coach, by the way.

Denver Mike 07-29-2013 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 9841877)
Salty much? No need to melt down just because your team is a circus.


A bigger circus than yours? Please

BigMeatballDave 07-29-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9842741)
I meant one win in the playoffs then done, but whatever.

Yeah, but one and done has never meant that.

mlyonsd 07-29-2013 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9842842)
Yeah, but one and done has never meant that.

Sure it has.

BossChief 07-29-2013 12:24 PM

You don't bring in 33 year old linemen to be backups after you lose your starting center to ankle surgery.

That's just stupid.

I'll file that under "of course that's what they are gonna say"

DaneMcCloud 07-29-2013 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9842829)
Please quote the part of that article that says that he didn't take snaps at center until today. Because, in case you didn't notice, neither article says anything of the sort.

From the OM:

Magazu is Denver's OL coach, by the way.

That's because Koppen sat out the minicamps and OTA's.

What I said is that this was the first time he'd essentially taken "live" snaps at center and in no way, shape or form was he expected to be the starting center in 2013.

MagicHef 07-29-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9842866)
That's because Koppen sat out the minicamps and OTA's.

What I said is that this was the first time he'd essentially taken "live" snaps at center and in no way, shape or form was he expected to be the starting center in 2013.

The snaps up until now at TC were not "live," but the ones today were? What do you mean by live?

DaneMcCloud 07-29-2013 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9842885)
The snaps up until now at TC were not "live," but the ones today were? What do you mean by live?

In pads, not shorts.

Hey, maybe Ramirez becomes a stud center but after six years in the league, the guy has been a backup for most of career and has logged only 26 starts, all at guard.

To act as if he was the starting center for 2013 is nonsense.

Here's more proof:

Manny Ramirez gets first crack at replacing Koppen

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...lacing-koppen/

BigMeatballDave 07-29-2013 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 9842847)
Sure it has.

No, it has not.

-King- 07-29-2013 01:31 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Quick hits from <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23BroncosCamp&amp;src=hash">#BroncosCamp</a>: - Scouted centers closely, none great - Knowshon Moreno best RB - Von Miller, Julius Thomas awesome</p>&mdash; MileHighReport (@MileHighReport) <a href="https://twitter.com/MileHighReport/statuses/361918579345592322">July 29, 2013</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL Knowshon is the best RB so far?

ptlyon 07-29-2013 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueFanDave (Post 9842971)
No, it has not.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...e%20and%20done

-King- 07-29-2013 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 9842998)

One and done means One game PLAYED not one game WON.

I think that's how most people think of it regardless of how urban dictionary defines it.

For example: http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/...tseason-trips/

MagicHef 07-29-2013 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9842969)
In pads, not shorts.

Hey, maybe Ramirez becomes a stud center but after six years in the league, the guy has been a backup for most of career and has logged only 26 starts, all at guard.

To act as if he was the starting center for 2013 is nonsense.

Here's more proof:

Manny Ramirez gets first crack at replacing Koppen

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...lacing-koppen/

They were in pads Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday, all of which featured Ramirez playing center for the first string offense.

But maybe you should keep posting things written by guys who haven't been at TC.

-King- 07-29-2013 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 9843015)
They were in pads Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday, all of which featured Ramirez playing center for the first string offense.

But maybe you should keep posting things written by guys who haven't been at TC.

They didn't wear pads for the first time until Saturday.

MagicHef 07-29-2013 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9843022)
They didn't wear pads for the first time until Saturday.

Thanks for the clarification. Apparently that is very important to Dane.


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