That is apples and oranges. This is not government.

The Commissioner is a sheriff, not an all powerful leader. These teams have owners and the commissioner works for them, not the other way around. They're the ones who pass these rules.

Putting the entire blame on one person when he is not actually responsible is not holding them responsible. It's scapegoating. At least shake your fist at the right people.

Why?
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Because it is annoying. Why else? Of all the "celebrations" he could choose, he points at the name on his back.

Yeah, we know your name is Bowe, Bowe.

I'll admit I get sick of linemen dancing after a coverage sack or a CB celebrating deflecting a pass when they're team is down 21 pts, but a quick salute or an endzone dance after a 75 yd int return at home is another thing. Penalizing it is just plain stupid. It's football, not golf.

Definitely was looking forward to another Brandon Flowers bicep flex in Oakland's endzone again this year...

yeah, let's squeeze the last bit of humanity out of our rock 'em sock 'em robots...

i don't want anything spontaneous happening on my lawn

Hmm, Clint pic with Goodells head on it?

I don't give a ****.

The game will flow more like college football.

End Zone celebrations aren't affected by this.

Roger Goodell is not liked by the fans and players for good reasons.
If you are going to allow TD celebrations how can you not allow a Sack celebration.

Gray area questions. So they can't spin the ball period or they can spin the ball when they score a TD?
Can't salute at all or just after a TD?

I'm ok with the endzone stuff being ok.
and my post that I liked this move was before I saw the specifics of the sportscent snapshot.

I simply can not STAND a player making a routine play and jumping up and doing some pre-planned WWE dance; acting like he just won the Super Bowl.

But, some of the stuff called out on the Sportscent shapshot were a bit much.

Why is everyone assuming that Goodell is solely responsible for every rule change or change in rule enforcement?

It used to be that players were not permitted to do anything to make the referree's job harder. Now, the refs assume that the ball will be changed on every single play unless it is two minute drill, because of players goofing off.

Now you have coaches like Chip Kelly contemplating running a super hurry-up offense that would require the ball being spotted soon as possible after the preceding play.

Goodell does not make all of the decisions for the NFL, nor does he base the decisions he makes on his own whims or research.

How stoopid does an NFL fan have to be to think that would be the case?

A lot of people on this board must really hate daddy because he was screwing mommy.

Yet another completely subjective rule that the league can use to ensure that the right teams win and the likes of Hochuli get more camera time. Goodell, the owners, and the refs need to take the stick out of their asses, because they're all ruining what used to be a great product.

Look for the Donks', Patriots', and Steelers' opponents to be called for this if they so much as breathe funny while they have a lead.

And here comes ghettio, rushing to Goodell's defense! LMAO

Those will probably be the next to go. :rolleyes:

ROFL

Lol, no kidding. How much of a prude does she have to be for this to happen? With those lips of hers, she could really improve the NFL.

Who does that?
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The funny thing is, it gives people more reason to stay at home.

NFL...No Fun League

Goodell does what the owners tell him.


Point your fingers at the owners.

Yeah. Seriously. The MILITARY SALUTE, but yet Jimmy Graham actually halted a playoff game because they had to fix the damn goal post that the reerun messed up.....


Im like super pissed about the salute. The other stuff, I can see. It can be considered taunting. BUT A MILITARY SALUTE...

They make you stand and put your hand over your heart, and take off your hat before EVERY SPORTING EVENT IN AMERICA. ****ing idiots.

**** them too. Starting in KC and spreading our way out.

shit man, everyone.

tackle a guy for 2 yds on 1st down; get up and scream to the sky etc.

But the Lambo leap is some protected ritual.

LMAO

I yearn for the day that Chiefs players have a good play to celebrate.

Jamaal Charles, gave you plenty of those last year. Even though I didn't watch many Chiefs games last year, that run against the Saints was pretty damn impressive.

This rule would have been nice for the last 4 years.

We rarely celebrated and the opponents wore themselves out celebrating.

Only if its a big hit. Unless you're watching different games than I'm watching cause I never see that on routine ordinary tackles.
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Because the Packers are a league favorite (Rodgers, marketing $$$, historic). If it was the Arrowhead Leap instead, it'd be banned.

I think it's kind of wack you're effectively banning defensive players celebrating.

Those guys are out there working hard as well. They deserve to have a little fun.

I like sack dances...

ROFL

That is about as lame as when the Chiefs would get penalties becasue Horsface said the crowd was TOO LOUD!

No Fun League

and here is frazod.

Determined to give me a hard time from here on out just because I pointed out that a lot of gun owners like shooting their guns and that the fun of it was more of a reality than the chance that they would ever have to shoot somebody in self-defense.

And then frazod came up with some wild claim that open carry of firearms is less effective at deterring crime than concealed carry because the armed criminals would know who to shoot if there was open carry and that if there was concealed carry, criminals would be afraid to attempt crime on the possibility that some civilian there might have a concealed weapon.

frazod even took that to the point that he said that uniformed police officers in schools would be less effective at preventing school shootings than concealed carry teachers.

Just because I pointed out that gun owners like their guns and enjoy them and that I effectively argued for open carry, frazod takes it personal and tries to get personal with me from here until forever.

Just because frazod is a popular figure around he thinks her should be a chump with me just because he ended up looking stupid in two prior threads on his favorite subject and hobby.

Kind of hilarious that some people on the Planet would support a ban on verbal taunting.

My favorite celebration was Wesley Walls shooting the football.

BTW, every Chiefs fan should hate the salute. You know where that bullshit came from.

I obviously am watching different games, and you obviously didn't watch a lot of Ray Lewis.

Even LB's who left Baltimore used to complain that Lewis always got credit for tackles they made because he'd make the biggest scene.

Link?
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That always happens with name players. James Laurinaitis was called "pile jumper" at Ohio State b/c he'd get credit for tackles by simply running into the scrum late.

I'm not your personal google nor do I document the lives and times of NFL players.

I watch games. He did the shit for 15 years.

Shoulda never happened the Chiefs were holding.

You can thank the replacement refs for that.

what if you try celebrate, but are so reeruned that you fail...aka Cassel jumping and missing the celebration in the endzone

do they throw a flag or hail you a short bus?

Goodell is a complete douche nozzle.

Uh, the president isn't all powerful, either. He has a responsibility to his constituency (owners) congress (committees), and the courts (???). The president works for us, but he also can do things we don't want in the "greater interest". Same for Goodell. I agree he's not the only one pushing for this crap, but he does wield considerable power and he has used it to become little more than a whiny mouthpiece for an ownership that only sees dollar signs, rather than his actual job of protecting the integrity of the game.

I've linked the NFL constitution and bylaws. The commissioner's powers start on page 28 and go on for some time. Looks to me like he is more powerful relative to the NFL than the POTUS is to the US. He is intentionally given a great deal of autonomy once elected by the ownership. It's the entire point of his office.

http://www.nfl.com/static/content//p...rs/pdf/co_.pdf

No, he isn't instituting rules on his own, and there is plenty of blame to go around, but Goodell is as behind this as anyone.

Because players only hold for replacement refs?...:spock:

The best thing about the replacement refs is that they were clearly out of the loop when it came to who should get preferential treatment and who shouldn't. Did they suck? Sure. But they sucked impartially.

NFL clarifies ball spin penalty

The NFL on Wednesday tried to clear up reports that players would receive 15-yard penalties for spinning the ball during touchdown celebrations, noting that it would be an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty only if done directly at an opposing player.

NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy made the clarification on Twitter.

to clear up bad info re: td celebrations like military salute/spinning ball: only flagged if player does it directly @ opponent

— Brian McCarthy (@NFLprguy) August 7, 2013
Carolina Panthers receiver Steve Smith, who does his signature ball spin after most receptions, said recently he'll have to tweak his celebration to comply with the rules.

"We are working that out," Smith said with a laugh. "I have to alter it a little bit. ... Some people probably are like, 'Yes, it's finally gone.' I hate to burst your bubble, but it's still here."

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/95...g-opponent-nfl

In other words -- further choreographing the game :cuss:

Public execution.

LMAO It's okay. You're not the only team he's smoked on a long run.

They don't make you do anything of the sort.

Do you actually consider that a sign of respect towards the military? Some football player saluting to celebrate a good play? How does that even make sense?

I don't mind, and I was in the military.

the one thing that irritates me is if you're going to do it, at least do it right.
good lord.

I think the salute was definitely paying sacred homage to those who fought and sacrificed in the late 90's when any opposing player did a salute when scoring a touchdown against the Broncos.

I think the fact that every celebration that becomes associated with a team or player gets mocked by opponents when they have a good play against that team or player means that none of those celebrations could be considered respectful or anything more than a silly celebration that a player adopts with the risk that it will be used against his team when they get beat.