If Indy needed a rb so bad, why not save the pick and go get mcgahee?

Richardson is a long term answer, McGahee is a short term one.

Do you think Mcgahee will performthe 3-7 years that t-rich would

He did the same shit last year before the Vontae Davis trade.

I'm curios to see if they slide Ogbonnaya over from FB. He has been effective at times.

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Browns may have to carry $6.67M in "dead" space after trading Richardson, but are $25M under the cap. Can roll that over to 2014.

3-7 years for a rb with injury problems?

A long term answer at rb? For a first round pick?

Ogbonnaya is nothing more than a 3rd down RB. He can't carry the load.

My buddy is a little pissed at me. About a week ago, I sent him a text asking what they got for Trent Richardson and played it off like they traded him.

Now, he thinks I either knew something all along and didn't tell the whole truth or that I jinxed them.

Bwahahaha

Now he doesn't want to go to the Browns game.

If I were a Browns fan I'd be pissed. Not only did you give away a formidable running back with plenty of tread on the tires, but you basically said to season ticket holders, "Thanks for the money, we're not going to compete this season. Stop on by next year though!"

That formidable running back brought you back a first rounder.

Unreal he went 3rd overall. I don't think id take a RB before 20 in todays NFL.
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ballsy move by cleveland....it works if richardson is just a good, not great back and they draft a QB....if you don't believe in something, better to change it then waste time (cassel, pioli, clark)

indy gets richardson's production right now, in advance of the pick...they have their franchise QB, so you can see the logic...but if Ballard going down was the reason you did this, then you should have planned better in the offseason

How is Trent Richardson at pass-blocking?

This guy is a freak, I've seen him in the gym before and its ungodly the things he's capable of. He put other guys here like Fluker and Barrett Jones to shame.

Yes.


Indy is ****ing themselves over. This is great news.

I approve.

What a god-awful, stupid trade by the Colts. Richardson ran behind Alex Mack and Joe Thomas last year and he still ****ing sucked. The only RB definitely worth a first rounder is Peterson, and given how lucky the Colts were last year, that pick might end up being in the 12-15 range.

Oh, well, no one is happy, and now that its coming out that this trade was actually orchestrated in the PRESEASON, and held onto because the owner wanted to get as many season tickets as possible.


Yeah. :cuss:

What is the Browns GM situation? I feel a little silly not knowing, but is the current one the guy who took Richardson in the first place? I mean yeah you got a first rounder back, but if you prefer that over a RB why waste a 3rd overall only to trade him for a 20ish overall? I mean that was only last year. Did they really not like what they saw?

No. That was Tom Heckert. The GM right now by title is Michael Lombardi. There lots of confusion. It is said that its a thing that every move has to be approved by Banner, and that Ray Farmer, and Michael Lombardi are tag teaming the roster.

So, really? Who the hell knows.

And about what they saw. The rumor is that Lombardi has wanted to blow the entire thing up.

I would almost think long and hard about trading Jamaal for a 1st.

My Colts fan friend, who is jacked up about this trade, says he's one of the better ones in the league.

I actually like this trade for the Browns. Good for them, saying enough is enough with the QB carousel. (I will retract this post if they end up not getting their QBOTF.)

Oh no? Lol ya they are. They traded their best offensive player for a pick in next years draft.

I have never seen a team begin positioning for the first pick like this. Yes, they want Johnny Football, guaranteed. Still no guarantee they will get him. They're going to have a tough time being worse than Jacksonville; and Jacksonville will take Him unless Cleveland is already bartering with both #1s.

makes perfect sense for the Browns. Blow the season and then draft a gimmick qb......

FML.

Between the two it will be an epic battle of qb suck this year.

That seems like a dumb move unless the Browns know something the colts don't.

how would you really know what Richardson is capable of doing, when he's only spent 1 year on an offense with no passing threat...

I've just never seen a team begin posturing this early and obviously. Huge risk, but they need to really shake things up in Cleveland. I worked there for 8.5 months in 2008-2009. Lebron was there (watched Him live... impressive). But those are some starving Brown fans. I really felt for them.

Speaking of this trade, what the hell where the Rams thinking - this would have been perfect for them. Richardson would thrive under Fisher, Bradford would look good and they got the extra first rounder from the Redskins trade.

They need a Manziel type of player.... with real star status to bring some real hope back to that program. I would imagine if they don't have the first overall pick at the end of the season, they will mortgage the farm, asking Jacksonville what they want. This is too freaky for this not to be their primary motive. They saw Jacksonville tanking early and knew that they would have to start moving. I wouldn't be surprised to see them try to get another #1 simply for more trade power.

i support tanking


take all the pain at once

Manziel to the Browns would be awesome for the turd that is Johnny Football.

Damn. This is a pretty good point.

Wow.

He'd probably refuse.

Browns draft Johnny Manziel, he arrives in the center of town and gets run over by Lebron's entourage as he returns to tell the Cavs to **** off.

And all is right wight the world.

The Rams currently have 3 RBs that were drafted within the past 2 seasons as well as a rookie UDFA on the roster. While it might have been interesting to see the Rams acquire Trent Richardson, it would mean that Pead-a 2nd round pick- would be a bust, Darryl Richardson would have had a shot for only 2 games, and Stacy/Cunningham would have never been given a look.

The Browns have been horrendous for the better part 15 seasons, though.

Another Texas Turd headed to Cleveland.

Have fun, Johnny!

That's what they're doing with this trade is getting trade bait for the best quarterback to come out this next year. Bet the college QB's start saying.... Shit, I don't want to go to the Browns....

Lombardi used to write blowjob articles for Pioli, now maybe Scott can return the favor.

WTF? That's an awesome trade for the Browns. Are you kidding me? A 1st round pick for Trent Richardson. I would take that pick and run.

Is middling around with 6-10/7-9 instead of 1-15/2-14 really going to fix that problem, though?

Like, I just don't see how it's worth it.

The gym? Who cares. The field is what matters. They need a QB.

Those ur' 'spectable showings, mang. 'Spectable!

Excluding 1999, they've had a 1st overall pick and 3 #3 picks(4 including Richardson via a trade up).

I'm not saying it might not be worth it, but it's the Cleveland ****ing Browns. They are never, ever, ever lucky with anything.

If you're in full rebuild mode you can't have too many first round picks.

It's a smart trade for Cleveland. Richardson hasn't been very impressive and the Browns are in a better position to evaluate him than anyone. And looking at Indy's schedule, this could be a decent pick. The pick they spent last year is a sunk cost, you can't factor that in when making a decision now, just whether or not Richardson is worth a mid first round pick.

Crazy trade...sorry to all you poor bastards who have Ahmad Bradshaw in fantasy :-/

I also have Steven Jackson.
:banghead:

I've got **** ****erson in fantasy this year. His stats make Alex and Kaep fans weep with sorrow.

...who?

Holy hell. This came wayyyy out of left field for me.

this is why the Browns are always so horrible. Stupid trade. They keep trading off their best players.

Browns fans need to PM Scott Pioli and learn more about "process-trusting".

Trent Richardson heard about it over the radio too. Lol, God Cleveland you are such a bullshit organization.

Sure. Yeah. Absolutely, because the browns have proven to be SO SMART with trading and drafting.

let me refresh if I may.

Traded UP to get Brady Quinn.

Traded DOWN, while not picking JULIO JONES, so they could draft Phil Taylor, then used the picks received from said trade, to draft Greg Little, (bust), and Brandon Weeden, (bust).

I have NO faith that the browns will get the right qb. Rumors are they are already scouting JOHNNY FOOTBALL.

Couldn't agree more.

We got Justin Houston on the Phil Taylor deal.
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Sighs........

He must've ****ed Joe Banner's granddaughter or something.

I don't even think they should be allowed to do that. Not normally one for trying to control stuff, but that was just bullshit. Just hand Indy the wildcard for a ****ing pick.

The new guys knew without a qb they aren't going anywhere. They started over again. It's not a bad thing for them. U need to get that qb right. Chances are they probably won't but they are trying. Chiefs just got fuvked by a poor draft class. We are almost as cursed as the Browns. Lol

i had no idea

the idea that the new staff shouldn't try because people before them failed is..um...how to say this politely...

Trent Richardson is the next Adrian Peterson /cp draftniks

People keep saying this, and to be blunt... it's stupid.

Cleveland had no chance. What did they 'punt' exactly? Does anyone think they were finishing better than last WITH Richardson?

Jim Brown was right after all.

Browns fighting Jaguars over 1st pick now.

Nah, they want Bridgewater.

Read this whole thread. Trying to make sense of this trade. Very confused.

I'm just stoked that my 1st round fantasy pick is going to a team with a real offense!

I’m in the exact same boat.
I think, more like hope, Bradshaw is still good for a week or two though. Richardson won’t start right away, it’ll take at least a week for him to learn enough of the playbook to start taking snaps from Bradshaw.

Dunno if this has been mentioned yet, but apparently Trent learned he was traded when he heard it on the radio:

https://twitter.com/MarkSchwab/statu...29633634312192

The Browns definitely got the upside of this trade. Considering the Colts many needs on the O line, this is too much for too little. Hell, they could have traded the pick down and got more value. Richardson for a 2nd, yes, a 1st? nope.

You're not going to get a chance if you keep trading your best player. They're back to square one, version 4.0